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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-24-2005 20:06:

Idiot. The genre of the music is defined by its musical characteristics, not how fast it plays. If you pitched a gabba record at -16, it's still a gabba record.


Posted by bubble on Jul-24-2005 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Idiot. The genre of the music is defined by its musical characteristics, not how fast it plays. If you pitched a gabba record at -16, it's still a gabba record.


like i said. your right and i'm wrong. after all, dance music really doesn't have to be danceable. 'musical characteristics' is what really matters.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-24-2005 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by bubble
like i said. your right and i'm wrong. after all, dance music really doesn't have to be danceable. 'musical characteristics' is what really matters.


What? The hell? 120BPM is still danceable. Hell, 80PBM is danceable.


Posted by Aiwendil on Jul-24-2005 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Does it have a kick?


Yes.


quote:
Also... Urban Hype? The same Urban Hype who did Trip to Trumpton? Shit, they must have changed style a lot to have made a defining prog house track.


Pssst...they did more than one track and made more than one genre.


Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-25-2005 01:56:

system j i dont know if you can read but he said that you are right why are you still arguing...now back to the topic of my thread

DNB - Dillinja - Nasty Wayz


Posted by Inertia on Jul-25-2005 02:58:

lets see. you cant really define a whole genre with one track, as there are a bunch of subgenres, but if you overlook that, and allow some subgenres to count as independent ones, here's my list:

house: Frankie Knuckles - Tears
trance: Taste Experience - Summersault (Original Mix)
techno: Rhythim is Rhythim - Strings of Life (the ORIGINAL one)
electro: T. Raumschmiere - Monstertruckdriver
minimal: Plastikman - Snark (Villalobos Edit)
acid: Petter - Untitled Acid
progressive: Sander Kleinenberg - Venus & Mars (Original Mix)
tribal: Paul Jays - Spiritual Battery
ambient: Plastikman - Korridor

prolly missed a couple genres. skipped breaks because any track with a breakbeat pattern is breaks, so it doesn't really count IMO.


Posted by Aiwendil on Jul-25-2005 06:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
electro: T. Raumschmiere - Monstertruckdriver


You didn't skip breaks, you just don't know what you're talking about. That's not Electro.


Minimal Techno: New Order - Blue Monday (Richie Hawtin Remix)


Posted by bubble on Jul-25-2005 06:29:

TRANCE: Intact - Act's of Sensation


Posted by Inertia on Jul-25-2005 07:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
You didn't skip breaks, you just don't know what you're talking about. That's not Electro.


Minimal Techno: New Order - Blue Monday (Richie Hawtin Remix)


meh i won't even get into it with you. you're right. that's not electro. it's deep funky house. now go away.


Posted by Aiwendil on Jul-25-2005 07:44:

LOL. I don't know what it is, probably electroclash, but I know what it isn't, and that's Electro.


Posted by Raskell on Jul-25-2005 11:24:

Nursery Rhyme - BAA BAA BLACK SHEEP
Lullaby - Twinkle twinkle little star


Posted by JakeC on Jul-25-2005 12:23:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Techno: Joey Beltram- Energy Flash
Acid House: Phuture- Acid Tracks
Trance: Jam & Spoon- Stella
Psy Trance: Juno Reactor- High Energy Protons (Orion Mix)
Epic Trance: System F- Out of the Blue
Progressive Trance: Underworld- Dark & Long (Dark Train)
Hard Trance: Tony De Vit- The Dawn
Progressive House: Leftfield- Open Up
Anthem/Stadium House: The KLF- What Time Is Love? (Live at Trancentral)
Big-beat: Chemical Brothers- Block Rockin' Beats
Ambient House: The Orb- Little Fluffy Clouds
Ambient Techno: Orbital- Belfast
Old-skool hardcore/Rave: 2 Bad Mice - Bombscare



Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-25-2005 12:27:

Under what genre would you guys define:

Detroit Escalator Company - Abstract Forward Motion

Another contribution

Acid GOA: Hallucinogen - LSD


Posted by Ory on Jul-25-2005 14:10:

quote:
Originally posted by NuDarkBeat
Detroit Escalator Company - Abstract Forward Motion


I knew you were the kind of person to jump on a bandwagon. I bet you hadn't even heard of Ollivierra before Sasha played that track.


Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-25-2005 14:12:

They should hire you for a stupid completely pointless comment production company...you could be rich


Posted by Abhay on Jul-25-2005 14:29:

good example of Progressive Trance:

william orbit - Water over a vinyl leaf.

I know i got the name a bit off. I clearly remember, water and vinyl leaf.

LOL someone check it please.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-25-2005 15:31:

quote:
Originally posted by NuDarkBeat
system j i dont know if you can read but he said that you are right why are you still arguing...


He was being sarcastic, you fool.


Posted by jeromy d on Jul-25-2005 20:34:

TECHNO:

JEFF MILLS - "THE BELLS"






PSY / GOA:

HALLUCINOGEN - "LSD"


Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-25-2005 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
He was being sarcastic, you fool.


Your right and Im wrong. Happy


Posted by DC76 on Jul-25-2005 23:57:

Prog Metal: System of a Down - BYOB
Dream: Robert Miles - Fable (either version on the Dreamland CD)
Symphonic Electronica: Jean-Michel Jarre - Oxyg�ne #9 and #11
Worldbeat: Delerium - Enchanted
Ambient: Delerium - Sensorium
Ambient Pop: Delerium - Fallen Icons
Ambient Hip-Hop (yes there is such a thing): Delerium feat. Sultana - Forever After
Cosmo-Pop: The Killers - Somebody Told Me
Ambient Trance (I know, it isn't the best example): Jean-Michel Jarre - Oxyg�ne #8 and #12
Pop-Metal: Sum 41 - The Bitter End
Uplifting Symphonic Trance: Fatboy - Rebound (the classical element in that song is simply delectable! )


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-26-2005 00:00:

Now that's some proper genre labelling right there! None of this pussy "electro" broadness, straight in with "uplifting symphonic trance" mofo.


Posted by fuct4less on Jul-26-2005 08:37:

quote:
Originally posted by bubble
you guys are right. i'm wrong.

now excuse me while i listen to some happy hardcore (never you mind that it's only 120 bpms) and drive to the record store in my sports car below (again, never you mind that it only reaches a top speed of 60 miles per hour and takes 30 seconds to go from 0-60. after all, it has a racing stripe and bucket seats.)



Excellent point. So, by your logic, if I were to throw a paper airplane and it flew at the speed of a Boeing 747, it would be classifiable as such? What if it only flew as fast as your sports car? I suppose it would be a sports car, then, right? Ah, that makes sense, thanks.

Cheap sarcasm aside, I'm afraid your logic isn't nearly as universal as you may wish it to be. While tempo does play a part in a song's aesthetic (and therefore playing a role in typological classification), it is only one part of the equation. Albeit Trance usually operates within the 120 - 160 BPM range, there are exceptions. Moreover, some of the earliest - and purest, in terms of concept - Trance was actually pretty damn slow. For example, give the 1988 Pure Trance Classic mix of The KLF's hit single What Time Is Love a listen. It's quite dubbed-out. Incidentally, the aforementioned song was arguably the track to start things off, as far as Trance is concerned.

quote:
Originally posted by DC76
Prog Metal: System of a Down - BYOB
Pop-Metal: Sum 41 - The Bitter End


O_o

Eh, I dunno how you think SOAD's new track is Progressive Metal; they're a Mallcore (Agro-Alternative; not Metal) band through and through. Progressive Metal would be something more akin to Dream Theater's sound.

And after listening to a sample of that Sum 41 track, I'm sure that though it does sound mildly Metal-esque, there are better bands to mention than Avrilcore ones.


Posted by neoraver on Jul-26-2005 10:48:

Trance: Jam & Spoon - Stella / Chicane ft. Maire Brennan - Saltwater
House: Martin Solveig - Rocking Music / KK - Where do we go / Luomo - Tessio
Hard Techno a.k.a 'Schranz': Sven Wittekind - Whistle
Ghetto Tech: Dj Funk - Make Dat Booty Clap / stuff by Dj Godfather


Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-27-2005 04:54:

Dream Trance - Robert Miles - Children


Posted by OurManFlint on Jul-27-2005 05:37:

Techno= Adam Beyer-Active
House= A Guy Called Gerald-Voodoo Ray
Trance= Mesh-Purple Haze


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