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Posted by Milbag on Jul-27-2005 22:34:

New tracks are available months and months earlier on cd until they are pressed up onto vinyl.

Its my opinion that this is one of the reasons why the big names are playing cds more and more, in order to play the most upfront tracks etc. Obviously not the only reason, but from what i've read in this thread, this hasn't been mentioned yet....


Posted by NiteMer on Jul-27-2005 23:40:

Re: DJs who arent playing from vinyl anymore

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Hailstone
Ok I dont want to make a new debate/war about vinyl vs. cd.
Just want to know the a-list DJs who have stopped playing from vinyl in the last time.
I will start


  • John '00' Flemming
  • Sasha
  • Dave Clarke
  • Judge Jules
  • Pete Tong
  • Erick Morillo
  • Paul van Dyk


Pretty sure Deep Dish didn't play any vinyl, here in Denver, this past weekend. Not sure that's always the case, but they're obviously leaning more towards cds now.


Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-27-2005 23:52:

Did somebody actually say that sasha cant mix? I cant believe my eyes.


Posted by DJAntSmith on Jul-28-2005 00:00:

Nice to see this thread stayed on track.

Ferry almost always uses CD's now. I have seen him whack the vinyl out a few times for certain classics though.


Posted by NuDarkBeat on Jul-28-2005 00:10:

I think that in a very short period of time, pretty much all djs are going to switch. It is an ongoing trend that is only getting bigger. On top of that, many djs are starting to realize that cd's or mp3's can be manipulated in ways that could never be done with vinyl. I think that can only be considered an advantage.


Posted by NiteMer on Jul-28-2005 00:35:

I play a lot on cd now, because you can't play a lot of tracks on record that aren't released yet, but I still prefer vinyl in a lot of ways. I can't say that I'd never switch completely, but there are some advantages to vinyl.


Posted by MR STROKE on Jul-28-2005 01:49:

Ishkur-COME ON??WTF are u thinking?your logic makes no sence?
this has turned into a flame war, so back on the origanl post.
dj's using only cd's or labtop-
john digweed
bt
sasha
zabiela
tall paul
judge jules
j00f
ritche hawtin
and hundreds of others....
now some of these dj's are better than others, but to say they all suck because they went past records is stupid, becuase some of these
dj's are the best in the world....


Posted by Armada_hk on Jul-28-2005 09:52:

The only dj's who should (if at all) be critisised for using cdj's or other software should be the ones who when using vinyl couldnt mix at all then! Sasha (wether you like it or not) is infamous for his mixing abilities so why should him using Abelton be a problem? Yes it does beatmatch automatically but i mean he is considered one of the best mixers out there, so isnt it time that he tries to excel in other parts of djing now? We all know he can mix amazingly so its not like he switched to Abelton because he has lost the ability all of a sudden is it?

You cant force someone to like dj's such as Zabelia or Hawtin because they use cdj's/software but it just gives them more to play with and experiment with. Vinyl only dj's can only rely on their mixing skills to entertain a crowd at the end of the day, whereas the so called 'traitor' dj's can do far more


Posted by klappa on Jul-28-2005 10:25:

quote:
Originally posted by NuDarkBeat
I think that in a very short period of time, pretty much all djs are going to switch. It is an ongoing trend that is only getting bigger. On top of that, many djs are starting to realize that cd's or mp3's can be manipulated in ways that could never be done with vinyl. I think that can only be considered an advantage.


You are completely wrong there's no ongoing trend. The majority still plays vinyl. It's going to take decades before you see a trend where the majority of people will choose the cd option. All those manipulating things you said can do on cd's can be done on vinyl you gotta have the skill. Too all those thinking cd's are better because of their features i say this, the thing isn't about features it's still the music in the end don't let it overshadow the music in the end think about it. Vinyls are still the easiest way getting in beatmatching etc.


Posted by SeeK on Jul-28-2005 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by MR STROKE
dj's using only cd's or labtop-
john digweed
bt
sasha
zabiela
tall paul
judge jules
j00f
ritche hawtin


+ Matt Darey

DJ's can send around their newest stuff to each other and burn straight to CD , without havng to wait for a vinyl press.

All u CD haters, get over it.


Posted by zenperson on Jul-28-2005 14:15:

Cattaneo only used CDs in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago...


Posted by iammesol on Jul-28-2005 15:21:

How did you see all the way up in that booth Eleven50's dj booth is like a balcony


on topic:

Whoever said anything cdjs can do, can be done with vinyl.. you're incredibly wrong. Play with a cdj just for five minutes and you'll figure that out.

I can't wait for the big name djs to completely switch to software or cd, so 1) fresh, new forms of music will flow from the speakers, and 2)you "he sucks he isn't using vinyl" n00bs will finally shut up


Posted by djthunderbird on Jul-28-2005 15:23:

let me jump in on this little flame

sasha said: "its about whats coming out of the fcking speakers" and I agree totally.

People thinking that playing with cds requires less skill are mistaken. I'd say it is quite the same. In the end the only 2 things you can trust are your ears and your ability to beatmatch & correct if neccesary.

another thought: Beatmatching is totally trivial anyway. People who still think that the only that a dj does is matching 2 or more source's tempo are wrong. As someone stated earlier: Djng is all about the heart & feeling. A good dj knows when and how to mix in the next track. A good dj is not afraid to be innovative. Beatmatching is just something technical that needs to be learned & then mastered. Take rally for example: Most of you have learned how to drive a car but can you drive like the world champions? It's all about talent and no technical advancement can never change the fact that you have to be good at what you do regardless of how you do it.

my 2 cents



(FYI: I still play vinyl + cds in about 3:1 ratio)


Posted by RoBDaWG on Jul-28-2005 18:20:

Ferry always spins CD's I'm almost positive. He did in NYC, and he did @ Trance Energy (can't get much more local for him so I don't wanna hear about having to lug records).

I just saw Scot Project this weekend and was VERY happy to see him spin almost entirely all vinyl, though he did drop a few CD's, but waaay more records.

I dunno, my opinion on the matter (if it even belongs here), if a big name DJ is playing CD's, who cares, chances are he can get his hands on any vinyl record he wants ya know, it's just easier to him to transport his CD's because he's probably spinning a few gigs a week.

Now when I'm at some local NY or NJ club, and DJ MyFriendWorksAtTheClubSoIGotThisGigButIStillSuck is spinnin and buncha shitty music that he fucking downloaded, I want to kick down the door of the DJ booth and stab him with a shard of a vinyl record (and if we're gonna break a record, we'll make it a hip hop one). Cuz that loser spent NO money on his music, nor did he put any effort into finding those tracks.


Posted by Sh!fty on Jul-28-2005 19:11:

^COUGH

Finding the vinyl track you desire to buy isn't so difficult, any1 can google the name and order it.
Try finding it legal on a cd!!
And latest tracks trance tracks you can never find on p2p's.
After any1 knows the track, which is to late most of the time, it will have enough seeds.


Posted by Dancing*Queen on Jul-28-2005 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
lol people have been saying that for years


well eventually it will be right


Posted by RoBDaWG on Jul-28-2005 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sh!fty
^COUGH

Finding the vinyl track you desire to buy isn't so difficult, any1 can google the name and order it.
Try finding it legal on a cd!!
And latest tracks trance tracks you can never find on p2p's.
After any1 knows the track, which is to late most of the time, it will have enough seeds.


Okay googlemaster, find me Sunlight Theory by Svenson, the O-Zone Remix


Posted by Sh!fty on Jul-28-2005 19:29:

Svenson - Sunlight Theory [O-Zone remix]
There, that took me exactly 2 minits with google


Posted by Soonmeister on Jul-28-2005 19:44:

its doesnt matter to me what the Dj uses ( Cd or Vinyl )ferry can use either. in my opinion what matters most and i give my respect out is finding the tunes we all like and love and bringing them to us.

They perform to us and we love it and im not gonna bitch about what format he/she used.


Posted by iammesol on Jul-28-2005 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Sh!fty
Svenson - Sunlight Theory [O-Zone remix]
There, that took me exactly 2 minits with google


pwnd


Posted by leedearn on Jul-28-2005 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Sh!fty
Svenson - Sunlight Theory [O-Zone remix]
There, that took me exactly 2 minits with google

ok smarty paynts, find me virtua trancer - deep fear on XTC


Posted by OurManFlint on Jul-28-2005 23:52:

If you are just mixing, there's really no point to be picky about what you are using, vinyl, cd's, or software. The only dj's that really need vinyl are the dj's who depend on different placements of the vinyl, for example, turntablists.


Posted by spark_nrg on Jul-29-2005 00:00:

I want to kill a man, who sold Final Scratch to PvD. That is crime i think


Posted by WojiePoj on Jul-29-2005 03:55:

Stupid Carl Cox[COLOR=orange]


Posted by bluelimitd on Jul-29-2005 04:24:

Saw Tiesto up in Seattle and he used mostly vinyl. I also saw Christopher Lawrence in San Luis Obispo and he also used mostly vinyl. A CD or two was mixed in, but vinyl still dominates their sets. I like seeing DJ's spin vinyl mainly because of the legacy and charm vinyl carries with it. When someone says the word "DJ" you immediately think vinyl and turntables. Not to say I "hate" DJ's using CD's and software, but I tend to lean more towards an "instrumental" approach to the music. But hey, if it sounds good I'll love it. Has any of the software DJ's had their software freeze yet? That would be funny. HARDDRIVE FAILURE!! GO HOME CLUBBERS!


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