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Originally posted by leedearn epic in a sense of 'i want to kill myself when i hear the vocals so badly i would take the lives of others aswell' maybewe should blame above & beyond & andy moor for the london bombings as its quite clear the suicide bombers were listening to air for lifeon their 10 quid 512meg mp3 sticks from ebay.

When i read this i thought you were a complete abnormal and stupid person, then i checked your profile and understood that you are a completely abnormal and stupid young child of just 19 years old with a very hard childhood. Cant trust you find those attacks so funny to make jokes with music, so f*** off and go play with your toys ok?

After that, think that maybe the next attack could be in Birmingham, where you live. And think that maybe you could lose your parents, brothers, etc.. ok?

Stupid kids

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Originally posted by toffy When i read this i thought you were a complete abnormal and stupid person, then i checked your profile and understood that you are a completely abnormal and stupid young child of just 19 years old with a very hard childhood. Cant trust you find those attacks so funny to make jokes with music, so f*** off and go play with your toys ok? After that, think that maybe the next attack could be in Birmingham, where you live. And think that maybe you could lose your parents, brothers, etc.. ok? Stupid kids

be quiet r-tard, its just a forum, if you get so worked up about a forum then i suggest you get counselling

if you could count, then you would realise i am 20

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Originally posted by leedearn be quiet r-tard, its just a forum, if you get so worked up about a forum then i suggest you get counselling if you could count, then you would realise i am 20

Regardless of your age, i'm only 19, and do i make a silly senseless comment like that? no, we realize it's a forum, but it's called common fucking sense isn't it? if your mum died in a car crash, you wouldn't want someone less than 2 weeks later saying " so was she all OVER the pavement?"

Use your brain you silly blue shit.

mate, tbh i dont care

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Originally posted by leedearn mate, tbh i dont care

Ya, but some of us do. Have some respect.

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Originally posted by djmetatron I'll tell you why it's flawed. Trance is SUPPOSED to be surface area (as is all EDM really). It's supposed to be immediately enjoyable to the listener and that causes it to be superficial, obvious and unabashed.

wrong.

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Originally posted by basd You're sounding like that introductory hihat to Vanilla Ice - Ice ice baby. Whether that's a good thing is up to you. It's got a fairly funky beat though

Actually I was trying to sound like Rusty Shackleford (aka Dale Gribble). I'll stick to Electro though. SHSHSHSHSHSHAaaaaaa.

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Originally posted by Psy-T wrong.

While I am thoroughly impressed with your eloquent and well-thought argument, I still hold my ground.

Any good DJ or producer knows what's successful on the dance floor. Or were you thinking I was talking about electronic music? No, I said EDM.

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Originally posted by djmetatron While I am thoroughly impressed with your eloquent and well-thought argument, I still hold my ground.

He's right, though.

Axolotyl you moron

The year 1995 called, they want you to wake the hell up and relize times have changed dramatically.

Trance is mainstream. Was it originally supposed to be like that for listeners? Who gives a shit really.

Some of you need to get with reality

I see someone's made the vast shift in musical tastes from trance all the way to prog... which is the same fucking thing only it began life in Britain rather than Germany.

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Originally posted by dartrance Axolotyl you moron The year 1995 called, they want you to wake the hell up and relize times have changed dramatically. Trance is mainstream. Was it originally supposed to be like that for listeners? Who gives a shit really. Some of you need to get with reality

Eat a bullet fucktard. Go play in traffic.

Whats it got to do with being commercial? Fuck it was commercial back then too. Dance music always will be commercial because its sold in stores and released on record labels or downloaded. Thats the definition of commercial.

I was simple trying to point out to the genius that trance did not start with gouryella and the 3 minute breakdown.

I was talking about the sound. You know... the actual music. This is what we're talking about right? Frankly I dont give a shit if you think trance is supposed to be mainstream or if your happy to listen to whatever you term as commercial. But if you think Tiesto and Above and Beyond and Andy fucking Moor is all that there is to trance... well your selling yourself and the genre way short.

You know guys, I never got into one these, "Trance sucks balls" thread and the reason is because, I love Trance music. Everything from Deep Progressive House to uplifiting Trance to Techno.

This is getting very boring, I am not talking about about Trance music its self, I am talking about these members get online and just bitch non stop about how Tiesto trainwecks or how Armin suck dicks in productions, or ASOT sucks blah blah blah blah. Can people please stop with this nonsense on Tranceaddict.com. This is not what a website suppost to be. Did you think when Swamper created this website just for members to bitch about how fucked up Trance DJs are? Did you all wake up each morning and wonder how you can fuck up some DJs or producers day when you post messages about how their production and how lame they are?

If you don't like Trance and get the fuck out!


Phew, I need to get it out of my chest.

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Originally posted by Axolotyl Eat a bullet fucktard. Go play in traffic.

You guys say the darndest things. ManG I can't stop laughing at this. So if this was real life would you guys get into fisticuffs or something? Heh. Eat a bullet. Please continue. Now it's dartrance's turn to come up with something even more angry and insulting.

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Originally posted by limin_li If you don't like Trance and get the fuck out!

How telling. You completely miss the point. Most bitch because they continue to care about trance, and know how much more the genre can offer than overhyped icon worship and worthless by-the-numbers epic from software. Not because they somehow have a pathological desire to frequent online message boards about things they dislike.

If anything, the critics around here care much more about the fate of trance than those who accept Armin's tripe.

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Originally posted by limin_li If you don't like Tiesto, ASOT or Ferry get the fuck out!

Fixed...

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Originally posted by limin_li You know guys, I never got into one these, "Trance sucks balls" thread and the reason is because, I love Trance music. Everything from Deep Progressive House to uplifiting Trance to Techno. This is getting very boring, I am not talking about about Trance music its self, I am talking about these members get online and just bitch non stop about how Tiesto trainwecks or how Armin suck dicks in productions, or ASOT sucks blah blah blah blah. Can people please stop with this nonsense on Tranceaddict.com. This is not what a website suppost to be. Did you think when Swamper created this website just for members to bitch about how fucked up Trance DJs are? Did you all wake up each morning and wonder how you can fuck up some DJs or producers day when you post messages about how their production and how lame they are? If you don't like Trance and get the fuck out! Phew, I need to get it out of my chest.

+1, im with u on that one.

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Originally posted by djmetatron While I am thoroughly impressed with your eloquent and well-thought argument, I still hold my ground. Any good DJ or producer knows what's successful on the dance floor. Or were you thinking I was talking about electronic music? No, I said EDM.

the first crowds of this music didnt need it to be "immediately enjoyable", that kinda deflects from the purpose of it actually.

early trance was meant to actually put you in a trance, that comes through careful and correct repetition and programming, if on the other hand you think a breakdown in each track, which means a breakdown every 3 minutes in a trance set can get you into a trance, you're either on drugs, or you are delluding yourself.

and if you consider trance from 99 to be early trance, you have no ground to stand on at all.

Cobalt is right. Most of the flaming on this board results from frustrations about the state of the music we love. Most people agree that it's in the pits at the moment, and people who blindly worship the very things many of us blame, without ever once bothering to find out where these things fit into the bigger picture cause friction with the more experienced members.

It's unbelievable how pretenious and just plain picky you all are. Just enjoy the music for what it is! Appreciate what Andy Moor and Adam White are trying to do with the sound. The root of my love for electronic stems from the love of the use of tecnology to express feelings and experiences.

I have yet to hear of one reason why trance isn't supposed to be superficial. You just say.. "wrong." or "he's right though". But nothing to actually support your opinion.

Maybe I should make one caveat clear. I don't persoanlly think that the superficiality of the genre is a good thing; but what I'm saying is that getting agry over the superficiality of trance is like hating shit for smelling bad. You can do it all you want but it's still gonna stink.

So your tastes have become more refined/picky. Good for you, whoopidy doo dah! Doesn't change the fact that you used to love what you now hate.

Who are you talking to?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Who are you talking to?

obviously I'm talking to the people who are bitching about trace and how it's in some 'crisis'.

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Originally posted by djmetatron I have yet to hear of one reason why trance isn't supposed to be superficial.

Can't you read?

It has been said already that the type of music should put you IN A TRANCE.

Superficial music just does not do that.

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Originally posted by djmetatron obviously I'm talking to the people who are bitching about trace and how it's in some 'crisis'.

And you're lumping them all in with the same complaint?

I have no problem with epic or anthem trance provided it's creative and interesting. The bland soft-synth stuff you get today is neither. Producers simply don't want to mess around with the formula anymore, and the result is stagnation. Argue with that all you like, but it won't go away.

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Originally posted by basd Can't you read? It has been said already that the type of music should put you IN A TRANCE. Superficial music just does not do that.

Wow, your meaning of the word superficial must be different than mine. Superficial music can VERY MUCH put you �into a trance'. You don't have to think too much tdo be in a trance, you just hear the rhythm and the sound and become entranced, not much below the surface. That is what I mean. If you have a different view point then please do share.

The sounds themselves can be very complicated (high amount of layers/channels) and the quality of the recording can be top notch; but if it's successful trance (or any EDM tune really), it's still superficial and two dimensional. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just mean that you must accept this fact and weigh your criticisms accordingly.

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