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Originally posted by nchs09 even if they are compressed if u have a 320kbs instead of a 128 or 192 u can hear the difference. hence y mp3 sites such as beatport give them out like that.

ofcourse the higher the quality the better sound you get.


cant wait to see what the next genration of mp3's will wound like.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Get ready for the next generation of club sound systms.They are working on 5.1 systems for clubs,although I dont see the point of this since almost all dj's are used to only using left and right channels.Unless you are using ableton because with ableton you can have as many as channels you want and you can send them to any desired channels on the 5.1 systems.Although I havent heard any clubs using this as of yet the idea sure is amazing.but I could see this having lots of problems. for example in a club you are always moving around,where as in a theater you sitting down so there for you can experience the real 5.1. So I wonder how they can do that in a club. ya a good monitor is a must and you can spend more then $5000 on them. I say save the money and treat your room and then see which monitors suits you the best.

5.1 in a club is lame.

Most movie theaters usually aren't that great and they're supposed to be wonderful well talk about clubs haha which usually invest the bare minimum in sound on average unfortunately!

I don't see that taking off at all :-/

I'm not against the idea I just don't see it being done well.

And humm monitors you could easily hit the 50K $ mark and then add 2 to 3 grand just for the speaker cables ..... One day maybe!

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ofcourse the higher the quality the better sound you get. cant wait to see what the next genration of mp3's will wound like.

mp4's are crazy around half the size of mp3's yet quality is around 320kbs

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Originally posted by Nou Only thing I would really say about LARGE systems ment to play any recorded music is that they must handle the highends really well, as this is what really adds to ear fatigue.

speaking of large sytems,I went to to mastering studio and


I forgot what they were using there but it was a 2 million dollar studio.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ofcourse the higher the quality the better sound you get. cant wait to see what the next genration of mp3's will wound like.

They won't [sic]wound like anything better than we got now. Depends on your speaker system.


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Originally posted by nchs09 mp4's are crazy around half the size of mp3's yet quality is around 320kbs

ya thats what I heard too.Although havent any mp4's yet myself.I wonder how much more we gonna have mp3's before mp4 takes over.

I never heard of mp4's either, can't wait till I replace all my mp'3 with mp4. Quuuality!!

not for a while. i dobut mp3 players would recognize mp4's

Speaking of mp3 players....I really really want and need one!

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Originally posted by jdat 5.1 in a club is lame. Most movie theaters usually aren't that great and they're supposed to be wonderful well talk about clubs haha which usually invest the bare minimum in sound on average unfortunately! I don't see that taking off at all :-/ I'm not against the idea I just don't see it being done well.

ya achieving 5.1 at a club is really pointless.I guess they just want to create surround effect which they already can I think it is called decrete surround?

question: Do most of the clubs have mono or stereo system?or do they have both options?

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And humm monitors you could easily hit the 50K $ mark and then add 2 to 3 grand just for the speaker cables ..... One day maybe!

fack I cant wait to buy some sweet monitors.

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Originally posted by nchs09 not for a while. i dobut mp3 players would recognize mp4's

I run dual Logitech Z-5300 sets on splitters to the sound card. Signal goes out to both subs for amplification and transport to ten speakers. (Two per channel.) Around 760W RMS, 1100W peak. Way more bump than my room can even handle.

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Originally posted by Ibizadreamer AG Speaking of mp3 players....I really really want and need one!

I use the iRiver H320 and I have no complaints at all.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher I run dual Logitech Z-5300 sets on splitters to the sound card. Signal goes out to both subs for amplification and transport to ten speakers. (Two per channel.) Around 760W RMS, 1100W peak. Way more bump than my room can even handle.

jeez!! nice system man. that would break the windows glass. woudnt it?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I use the iRiver H320 and I have no complaints at all.

is it 20gig?

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Originally posted by Googooly is it 20gig?

yup,at first I thought wow thats alot of space,but now I have no more room for my new livesets

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ya achieving 5.1 at a club is really pointless.I guess they just want to create surround effect which they already can I think it is called decrete surround? question: Do most of the clubs have mono or stereo system?or do they have both options?

hummm I don't know what decrete surround is but that sounds like something fakely dsp-d ( like fakely processed rear sound outputs )

Now in regards to true stereo or mono in clubs that's really tricky between the phase shifts and crap.
Generally speaking it's best to run bass cabs mono ( l+r mixed ) exclusively and the rest is a mix of mono and stereo......

Having an extensive stereo image in a club on top of the fact there's multiple sound points can cause a severe mess between the room delay's, backline points, constantly varying environnement etc.
It's less then ideal usually!

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Originally posted by Googooly jeez!! nice system man. that would break the windows glass. woudnt it?

I doubt what he has would brake a window.


It's actually very difficult to bust windows in a room as there's so much air space and place for circulation.

One area where he could bust windows without too much pain would be in the rear of a car running some test tones cranking the load up like crazy. It sucks so much air the window could shatter.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher I run dual Logitech Z-5300 sets on splitters to the sound card. Signal goes out to both subs for amplification and transport to ten speakers. (Two per channel.) Around 760W RMS, 1100W peak. Way more bump than my room can even handle.

I'm f*cking impressed. My Logs are lesser at 900W peak because I got a Z-5300 and a Z-5600, but like Punisher states, more bump than you can handle. My view, like his is to simply overpower the f*ck outta the system, then tone it down for your listening pleasure at less than wall crumbling power.

C'mon now nchs09 and Nou. Complain about the low quality of Punisher's lowly Logitech power and the need to balance your system for your room size.

C'mon now, you f*cking dweebs. I got someone on my side now.


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Originally posted by jdat hummm I don't know what decrete surround is but that sounds like something fakely dsp-d ( like fakely processed rear sound outputs )

yup thats it,it is basically fake surround.I can look into my notes if you like to know more.

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Now in regards to true stereo or mono in clubs that's really tricky between the phase shifts and crap. Generally speaking it's best to run bass cabs mono ( l+r mixed ) exclusively and the rest is a mix of mono and stereo......

Ya you are right bass cabs have to be mono and I think all the mids and high mids are switched out of phase,I could be wrong on this though.

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Having an extensive stereo image in a club on top of the fact there's multiple sound points can cause a severe mess between the room delay's, backline points, constantly varying environnement etc. It's less then ideal usually!

wow very nicely put.

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Originally posted by jdat One area where he could bust windows without too much pain would be in the rear of a car running some test tones cranking the load up like crazy. It sucks so much air the window could shatter.

tones below 20 hz you mean right?

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Originally posted by smokeape I'm f*cking impressed. My Logs are lesser at 900W peak because I got a Z-5300 and a Z-5600, but like Punisher states, more bump than you can handle. My view, like his is to simply overpower the f*ck outta the system, then tone it down for your listening pleasure at less than wall crumbling power. C'mon now nchs09 and Nou. Complain about the low quality of Punisher's lowly Logitech power and the need to balance your system for your room size. C'mon now, you f*cking dweebs. I got someone on my side now. [[[smoke]]]

as i said before i didnt like your gimp ass comments not your system i have no idea if urs is good or bad. but i can still tell ur a gimp

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer yup,at first I thought wow thats alot of space,but now I have no more room for my new livesets

lol

I know how you fill, I have the same problem with my pc

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Originally posted by Googooly lol I know how you fill, I have the same problem with my pc

you really dont! I too have a 20gb mp3 player. I seriously recommend a 40gb one. You don't realize how small 20gb actually is

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Originally posted by Nou At home I have some custom speakers I built out of a bunch of different Harmon Kardon speakers... nothing pro audio, only about 40watts and running of a Denon amplifier.

Cool. At least you're coming around to reality. Although I have 900W power, I rarely use more than 100-200W. But the walls are the limit if I wanna go there...

A shame you gotta sort through old trash and try to make the parts work instead of simply buying off the shelf. Been there, done that years ago...


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