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Edit as I cant be assed arguring with people so f*cking narrow minded.

you guys are gettin me all wrong...

besides these guys have no clue how to read the crowd. take for instance this one club up near where i live. he'll play 2 slow dance songs then Born slippy then beyonce then 2 slow songs. this isnt an inexperience young guy either - he's the DJ for the last ten years. he plays a "Clublands" CD for the peak and pretends to mix. then when the cd is over he cant pretend so he tried to throw in another song - slams the channel fader up - lets em play for 20 seconds together then slams the channel fader down on the outgoin tack.. he doesnt "read the crowd, play to the crowd," or any of that stuff. he's just a lazy, talentless guy who puts no effort into what he does. he's not payin his dues as u put it.

my point wasnt attacking wedding DJs at all. it was simply that DJs of this type (like the guy i described above) should not try and mix when he has absolutly no idea what he's doin. he shuld just fade in and out like on the radio. theres nothin like 30 trainwrecks per night to kill the mood.

A wedding can be really fun to do if you have the right crowd (usually the drunks)

Ok what about this? You are djing halfway and some other random DJ comes onto the booth and adjust your EQ's. I think that is a big no no coz it's your show and not his!

I think the Jesus pose is only acceptable when the DJ is coming up on his own music/drug/whatever....

havnt you guys ever head of DJ messiah?!?!?




now i am for sure going to hell.


edit: notice how i flipped the headphones and didnt flip the writing on them. teehee

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Originally posted by Scottaculous Well if you want to be smartass about it, tones aren't reflected when it's typed. I don't really see your point because your statements either gross generalizations or assumptions. "we both know that a dj booth is not that big" -- Not all booths are small. Club Space in Miami has nice sitting area beside the DJ area. It just so happens, the main edm club in Atlanta, Eleven50, can have a large DJ booth of the promoter's choosing. Your whole point of blinding a DJ while in the booth with photography is really moot because almost all shots from within the booth are from behind and the side of a DJ's vision. The real blinders are flashes from the front, outside of the booth. Regardless, no one likes a flash in their eye, it is their job as a professional DJ to ignore it the best they can and continue. To your point, no a photographer does nothing to help a DJ set but those angled shots aren't for the DJ in the first place. Those shots used by the promoter, DJ management, the club and various published and online magazines. So you see how important it is for her to be in the booth doing her job.

i was not attacking you, i was merely mentioning that my thing was half serious half sarcastic...

yes big clubs have big booths, but let's face it this thread is about the up and coming djs, and mostly the people on this forum...therefore by the time we get to play in a big booth like that (if we ever reach that status or get that good) it will be a while...
most of the clubs have a decent size booth, and there is not much space in them, therefore having a photographer hang in there in order to see if he/she can take that spectacular shot is not something i see necesarry...
anyhow i've seen cameras that you can ajust from distance and zoom nice and close so you don't have to be in the dj's face...the pictures still come up...
and yes if the photographer is good and knows what he's doing most likely he will slip in and out un-noticed by the dj...


as far as for a promoter goes, they want more pictures to show what kind of a crowd and the numbers they brought out...for a close up w/ the dj it can be done after the set or before without making that big of a difference...

Man, I thought this thread was going to be a interesting read but it's just turned into everyone bitching at each other.

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Originally posted by Chris Larkin Here's Oaky doing the Jesus, from Crasher in 2000:

I hate that oakenfold guy

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Originally posted by alligator anyhow i've seen cameras that you can ajust from distance and zoom nice and close so you don't have to be in the dj's face...the pictures still come up...

I have one of those cameras and I'm telling you, sometimes you still need to get close to get some shots. Telephoto (zoom) shots are cool but if you're using a wider angle lens, you need to be close.

Some examples:







You just can't pull off shots like these with a telephoto lens, you MUST be close and, as you can see, it pays off.

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I can't believe this thread.

Some guy asks about DJ taboos and all you people can argue about is photography and the Jesus pose...

Who gives a toss if they do the Jesus pose or not. It's not like it will affect the overall performance. And besides, if it was such a gay thing then why do half the crowd respond by putting their hands up in the air?
If people are having a good time what does it matter? Besides, I thought you were going to talk about DJ taboos not nit pick points you don't like. There are a ton of things that you should and shouldn't do with regards to other DJs that I have not seen anyone cover in this thread, which I guess would have been the point nes pas?

Does anyone actually care to bring up some points that have any value?

Nem

A important one, arriving late or too early.

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Originally posted by dj chex A important one, arriving late or too early.

...or not arriving at all...

...or arriving, but in such a fucked up state that you probably should have not arrived.

(This ain't really DJ Taboo though...more DJ Etiquette)

Would scratching with another DJs records be one. Even if the guy could scratch greater then any other DJ in the world i dont think i would be to happy if he started rippin up one of my vinyls.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy Would scratching with another DJs records be one. Even if the guy could scratch greater then any other DJ in the world i dont think i would be to happy if he started rippin up one of my vinyls.

heh, i remember being at passion and marco v had just put his last record on, halliwell steps up and scratches all over the joint on marcos record, marco didnt seem to mind but i can imagine it would piss some people off!!

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Originally posted by b i n k u n ...or not arriving at all... ...or arriving, but in such a fucked up state that you probably should have not arrived. (This ain't really DJ Taboo though...more DJ Etiquette)

Brandon Block?

I don't think he's been in accepatable state for quite a few years now, but he still somehow turns up in most places he's booked at.

A few things DJs have pulled since I have been playing out that have really pissed me off...

another dj, and a friend, who was playing before me asking if he can play records out of my bag because he thought they'd fit in nice with what he was playing...

Once a kid playing before me just didn't recognize at all that his time was up and just kept pulling out records and playing into my set. I eventually pointed to my watch and the kid looks at me and says "ok, one more record," already 5 minutes into my set.I know when I am supposed to end a set and I end exactly when that time is.

I fucking hate when DJs don't bring all their own gear. I've had to let the same kid borrow my headphones two gigs in a row because his "broke." Like, dude, you're a fucking DJ, go buy a new pair.

I hate when I play early and after I'm done find out the kid after me didn't bring needles so now I have to hang around no matter what til the end of his set so he can actually play.

I've actually had other djs try to get dibs on playing certain tracks that they knew we both had before a night.

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Originally posted by CosmoKid 3- 2 heavy vocals mixed back to back (some housier stuff can do it)

Perfect example of that being just CAKE and sounding sexy to mix.

Fischerspooner - Emerge (Junkie XL Remix)
into
Fischerspooner - Just Let Go (Thin White Duke Mix)

It sounded rediculously awesome.


But yea. Doing that normally is a no no.

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Originally posted by zizack I hate when I play early and after I'm done find out the kid after me didn't bring needles so now I have to hang around no matter what til the end of his set so he can actually play.

what i was told very early when i got into mixing was that DJs do not share needles...they will share other things but not neddles...(now i'm not sure if this was excluded to only cartiges )

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Originally posted by alligator what i was told very early when i got into mixing was that DJs do not share needles...they will share other things but not neddles...(now i'm not sure if this was excluded to only cartiges )

I've shared needles many times. Its not a big deal, most of the time I've shared because no one cared. but it annoys me when a DJ just doesn't bring them for whatever reason. Sharing headphones is the worst though. I've done that three times and all three times my headphones smelled like shit for like a week because the kids were so sweaty.

I don't mind sharing needles if I know who the other DJ is.

I refuse to share my headphones though. They're my babies. They're mine. If you don't come to a gig with headphones, you're not a DJ: you're a guy lugging records around.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 I can't believe this thread. Some guy asks about DJ taboos and all you people can argue about is photography and the Jesus pose... Who gives a toss if they do the Jesus pose or not. It's not like it will affect the overall performance. And besides, if it was such a gay thing then why do half the crowd respond by putting their hands up in the air? If people are having a good time what does it matter? Besides, I thought you were going to talk about DJ taboos not nit pick points you don't like. There are a ton of things that you should and shouldn't do with regards to other DJs that I have not seen anyone cover in this thread, which I guess would have been the point nes pas? Does anyone actually care to bring up some points that have any value? Nem

When I listed that I was merely joking. Sure, some people ran with it, but I think everyone else was joking about it as well.

You should see what an asshole I look like when I am DJing. At some points of the song I get an "O" face.

those two are accesories that you need to compete in your job and field...

so no organization to bring your equipment means you're not ready to play out...the only way i would let someone use my headphones is if i know them very well ...

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Originally posted by zizack I've actually had other djs try to get dibs on playing certain tracks that they knew we both had before a night.

that is kind of a pain in the butt, but what would you rather he do, spin before you, and play them all? me and my friend do this, we have very similar taste in records, so he'll ask to spin one track, i'll ask to spin another, and we negotiate.

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Originally posted by Inertia that is kind of a pain in the butt, but what would you rather he do, spin before you, and play them all? me and my friend do this, we have very similar taste in records, so he'll ask to spin one track, i'll ask to spin another, and we negotiate.

haha, I know what you mean, except this kid didn't want to work out a deal, he just wanted to call dibs on everyone he wanted to play. he was more telling me and not asking. The kid is not a good dj either which made it even worse.

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