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Posted by Tordan on Aug-24-2005 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
Everyone is gonna end up being a shade of brown soon...


Yes, I know I'm perfect.


Posted by loca on Aug-24-2005 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
Yes, I know I'm perfect.


I should really just hook up with a white boy, keep that colour going LOL


Posted by Tordan on Aug-24-2005 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by loca
I should really just hook up with a white boy, keep that colour going LOL


Carlos is close enough... he just talks like a latino to be cool.


Posted by loca on Aug-24-2005 20:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
Carlos is close enough... he just talks like a latino to be cool.


Hahaha! Don't let him see you say that! LOL

But yes you have a point... Carlos is really a gringo disguised as a latino


Posted by MarkT on Aug-24-2005 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
We have more than enough minorities now to be sure that the work place would naturally become diverse...



bwwwahahahahahahaa...

thanks...I've been having a rough week...I needed a good laugh.

that is the most naive and ignorant statement I've heard in a while.

(don't confuse this with supporting that hiring policy...but if you think that all workplaces will "naturally" become diverse, you're just flat out wrong).


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-24-2005 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
bwwwahahahahahahaa...

thanks...I've been having a rough week...I needed a good laugh.

that is the most naive and ignorant statement I've heard in a while.

(don't confuse this with supporting that hiring policy...but if you think that all workplaces will "naturally" become diverse, you're just flat out wrong).


i think that diversity has been pounded into the 30 and under crowd that our generation is much more tolerant than even our parents.... its working itself out in spite of government racism


Posted by MarkT on Aug-24-2005 21:55:

management in companies is still largely white males..."under 30-somethings" don't generally set hiring policies for big companies, for example.

yes, that is changing...but not quickly enough for the current generation...try telling someone that "in the near future" this will sort itself out. They want a job NOW (rightly so, no?).

that's the flipside of the arguement, anyway.


Posted by MarkT on Aug-24-2005 21:55:

management in companies is still largely white males..."under 30-somethings" don't generally set hiring policies for big companies, for example.

yes, that is changing...but not quickly enough for the current generation...try telling someone that "in the near future" this will sort itself out. They want a job NOW (rightly so, no?).

that's the flipside of the arguement, anyway.


Posted by TrickDaddE on Aug-24-2005 23:10:

Try saying Black's or East Indians need not apply and see what happens!!!


Posted by spitty on Aug-25-2005 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Lets end political correct bullshit and let the best man or woman have the job regardless of skin colour. Whats so scary about that? And if the best men happen to by mostly white, or mostly black, or mostly whatever, then so be it.


you know what? i completely agree. 100%. only problem is ..thats NOT happening. so take off the rose coloured glasses. i agree that quota systems are not the best way of solving the problem. i want to know what you think would be (or would have been) the most effective way of evening out the workforce. feel free to go into as much detail as possible. for once i'd like to hear a solution rather then a complaint


Posted by VERTiG0 on Aug-25-2005 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by chanoa
for once i'd like to hear a solution rather then a complaint


Carpet-firebombing of all governmental institutions?


Posted by spitty on Aug-25-2005 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Carpet-firebombing of all governmental institutions?


brilliant

geez i miss u cale one wknd is not enuf to absorb all that is you


Posted by zoogla on Aug-25-2005 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Lets end political correct bullshit and let the best man or woman have the job regardless of skin colour. Whats so scary about that? And if the best men happen to by mostly white, or mostly black, or mostly whatever, then so be it.


The problem is that most companies (including the 5 big Canadian banks) and the top multinationals of the world still have that old-school, old boys club at the top. If it were up to the nepotistic principles of previous generations then frathouse and men's smoking club members would all get the top spots (not because of merit, but because of who you know).

So ONE aggressive alternative is to actively promote those minorities that weren't raised with a silver spoon. Unfortunately, white people that weren't raised with a silver spoon are the victims, and that's probably the majority of white people, but this is still a SMALL and VISIBLE step in getting rid of the status quo.

Haha let me refute that on my own...the minorities that rise to the top in these situations DID attend the same private schools and frathouses, and got to the top because of who they know AND because they're minorities. Oh well--thank you, come again!

quote:
Originally posted by bluE_Neon
There's too many Ali-baba's on the streets and they all stink.


I shall cut off your ears if I don't like your face...it's barbaric, but hey, it's home! (name that track...)


Posted by VERTiG0 on Aug-25-2005 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by chanoa
brilliant

geez i miss u cale one wknd is not enuf to absorb all that is you




Ah well, LoL weekend will be yet another monster Calefest


Posted by Sean Cassidy on Aug-25-2005 09:05:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0


Ah well, LoL weekend will be yet another monster Calefest



WIKKID WIKKID!

HYA MULE HYA...........

Cale is teh shit!!

WITTY AND BRILLIANT INDEED!

OUT OF THE BLUE INTO THE 5TH DIMENSION - BITCHES!!


Posted by swilly on Aug-25-2005 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
why do we put up with this kind of bullshit?

What future do people like me have in a country like that treats us like this?


Move back home then and leave canada for the aboriginals, you Twat! Actions like this are there to create an economic base for certain members of this nation that are disadvantaged due to colonialism.

That someone can not apply for a job in the present day is pale in comparison to the days when aboriginals could not leave thier reservations without the permission of the indian agent ( 1940s). Many of us were stuck on reserve with no economic base but were not allowed to leave to look for work.

Then when some resources were found on our land we were moved further north to even worse land to help the colonials develop.

Lets get everyone up to the same level first then we can start chatting about this stuff.

swilly


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-25-2005 16:10:

move back home? I was born in North York. I dont really find North York that appealing any more.... Imagine if a white person told the decendents of black slaves to "go home then". Let the racism accusations fly right? Why should your comment just now be considered any less immflamatory?

racist comments like this are part of the problem. Lets educate everyone equally to put them on a level playing field. Then we wont need goverment sponsored racism.

It's sad what happened t natives in the past. So why not equally educate everyone and put them on a level playing field?

*I* didn't mistreat anyone. Why am *I* being punished?


Posted by swilly on Aug-25-2005 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
move back home? I was born in North York. I dont really find North York that appealing any more.... Imagine if a white person told the decendents of black slaves to "go home then". Let the racism accusations fly right? Why should your comment just now be considered any less immflamatory?

racist comments like this are part of the problem. Lets educate everyone equally to put them on a level playing field. Then we wont need goverment sponsored racism.

It's sad what happened t natives in the past. So why not equally educate everyone and put them on a level playing field?

*I* didn't mistreat anyone. Why am *I* being punished?


I didint mistreat anyone ethier but...my people still suffer from the impact of colonialsim.

Also informal networks are a significant source of employment for much of this country. If certain groups have high levels of unemployment than they are at a disadvantage due to a lack of social networks.

These programmes are not there to disadvantage white people but rather to make the playing field level.

At the end of the day many of those minority groups have less informal networks than non minorities.

Thus programmes like these seek to rectify this.

It does not matter much anyways the jobs they alot for minorities are usually shit entry level crap jobs with no opportunties for upward advancement anyways.

If you still look at most of the CEOS and high level managers in this nation it is still dominated by white men. So dont worry there amigo your demographic wont be falling on hard times anytime soon.

swilly


Posted by MarkT on Aug-25-2005 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by swilly
...
Also informal networks are a significant source of employment for much of this country. If certain groups have high levels of unemployment than they are at a disadvantage due to a lack of social networks.

...
swilly


an *excellent* point.

though informal social groups do exist for many minority groups...but usually not in sectors made up of what would be considered "good" jobs.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-25-2005 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by swilly
I didint mistreat anyone ethier but...my people still suffer from the impact of colonialsim.

Also informal networks are a significant source of employment for much of this country. If certain groups have high levels of unemployment than they are at a disadvantage due to a lack of social networks.

These programmes are not there to disadvantage white people but rather to make the playing field level.

At the end of the day many of those minority groups have less informal networks than non minorities.

Thus programmes like these seek to rectify this.

It does not matter much anyways the jobs they alot for minorities are usually shit entry level crap jobs with no opportunties for upward advancement anyways.

If you still look at most of the CEOS and high level managers in this nation it is still dominated by white men. So dont worry there amigo your demographic wont be falling on hard times anytime soon.

swilly


You may have some valid points here... but is discrimination the way to end discrimination? And most jobs for EVERYBODY these days are shit entry level jobs. Thats where it all starts. And the nation is still dominated by white people because last time i checked, they still made up most of the population. Yes its time to see some more representation from others (if they have earned it of course) but dont ever expect a "takeover" unless the population warrents it.

Now lets address the racist statements you made. Im still quite offended by them.


Posted by swilly on Aug-25-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Now lets address the racist statements you made. Im still quite offended by them.


I am half white myself so get over it. I call natives redskins as well and tell them to go dance around the fire when they get out of line.

So there you are my honkey brotha

swilly


Posted by TrueToTheCrew on Aug-25-2005 19:37:

WHO THE FUK WOULD WANT TO WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT ANYWAYS??

NEVER AGAIN.


Posted by Jayx1 on Aug-25-2005 19:49:

so first im told that racist practices are wrong unless applied against me. And then im told to get over racist statements made to me.

I see how it is


Posted by swilly on Aug-25-2005 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
so first im told that racist practices are wrong unless applied against me. And then im told to get over racist statements made to me.

I see how it is


You got it cracka

swilly


Posted by spitty on Aug-25-2005 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by swilly
I didint mistreat anyone ethier but...my people still suffer from the impact of colonialsim.

Also informal networks are a significant source of employment for much of this country. If certain groups have high levels of unemployment than they are at a disadvantage due to a lack of social networks.

These programmes are not there to disadvantage white people but rather to make the playing field level.

At the end of the day many of those minority groups have less informal networks than non minorities.

Thus programmes like these seek to rectify this.

It does not matter much anyways the jobs they alot for minorities are usually shit entry level crap jobs with no opportunties for upward advancement anyways.

If you still look at most of the CEOS and high level managers in this nation it is still dominated by white men. So dont worry there amigo your demographic wont be falling on hard times anytime soon.

swilly


yes

yes

YES

i was beginning to worry not a single TOTA could see past their own little bubble


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