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Posted by Aiwendil on Sep-02-2005 16:15:

Wow...did anyone hear the Governor of NO cussing out the government on the radio? That was awesome.


Posted by Konijn on Sep-02-2005 16:18:

the levels of governmental ineptitude and under-preparation are mind-boggling. fantastic levels of carnage were expected as early as thursday, yet bush was busy getting guitar lessons this weekend and only bothered to have a press conference yesterday.

read Paul Krugman's op-ed piece in today's Times to see exactly how the federal government let its people down again.

furthermore, the human causes of the damage, in the form of uprooting trees, oversaturating areas with canals to bring water to suburban areas, and draining marshland -- all of which are part of nature's natural defense against disasters like this -- have yet to explored.

bush, hard at work, this past saturday:


Posted by metalgearsolid on Sep-02-2005 16:27:

See what should happen is that the Air Force goes there overnight and bombs the shit out of the city so they will quite acting like a bunch of animals.


Posted by zokissima on Sep-02-2005 16:28:

I can't even believe what's happening over there. THose that are forced to fend for themselves and the safety of their families are getting as bad of a reputation as everyone else there. It's a sad, sad affair, but it says a lot about the people who inhabit the area. In my worthless opinion, I'd suggest that your pres. calls a state of martial law (hasn't been done allready?) and send in troops by the thousands. We'll see how some stupid gangs stand up to a full military barrage. Anyone firing on the efforts of peace and assistance should be shot in each limb and left to die a horrible death.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-02-2005 16:30:

wow

quote:

The U.N.'s humanitarian chief, Jan Egeland, said Katrina was one of history's most damaging natural disasters. He said it had caused more destruction than last year's December 26 tsunami that killed an estimated 180,000 across southern Asia, AP reported.


Also read that the affected area is the size of England.


Posted by DaveSZ on Sep-02-2005 16:32:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../01/acd.01.html

Special Edition: Hurricane Katrina

Aired September 1, 2005 - 19:00 ET



ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Our special coverage continues tonight in this special edition of 360.
Shocking images from New Orleans. What is happening there is an outrage. We are going to go in-depth on that tonight, as well as what is happening here in Waveland, Mississippi, and all these neighboring communities.

A special edition of 360 starts right now.



ANNOUNCER: This is America? Chaos, anger, a desperate city feeling abandoned.

UNIDENTIFIED CHILDREN: We want help! We want help!

ANNOUNCER: Violence, gunfire, looting, and starvation.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We can't take this. We've been out here for three days. And we've been asking for help.

ANNOUNCER: Mothers, children, the elderly, hurricane survivors still waiting for help.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breathe, man, live!

ANNOUNCER: So, where is the help?


snip


COOPER: Joining me from Baton Rouge is Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu. Senator, appreciate you joining us tonight. Does the federal government bear responsibility for what is happening now? Should they apologize for what is happening now?

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D), LOUISIANA: Anderson, there will be plenty of time to discuss all of those issues, about why, and how, and what, and if. But, Anderson, as you understand, and all of the producers and directors of CNN, and the news networks, this situation is very serious and it's going to demand all of our full attention through the hours, through the nights, through the days.

Let me just say a few things. Thank President Clinton and former President Bush for their strong statements of support and comfort today. I thank all the leaders that are coming to Louisiana, and Mississippi, and Alabama to our help and rescue.

We are grateful for the military assets that are being brought to bear. I want to thank Senator Frist and Senator Reid for their extraordinary efforts.

Anderson, tonight, I don't know if you've heard -- maybe you all have announced it -- but Congress is going to an unprecedented session to pass a $10 billion supplemental bill tonight to keep FEMA and the Red Cross up and operating.

COOPER: Excuse me, Senator, I'm sorry for interrupting. I haven't heard that, because, for the last four days, I've been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in Mississippi. And to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know, I got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very upset, and very angry, and very frustrated.

And when they hear politicians slap -- you know, thanking one another, it just, you know, it kind of cuts them the wrong way right now, because literally there was a body on the streets of this town yesterday being eaten by rats because this woman had been laying in the street for 48 hours. And there's not enough facilities to take her up.

Do you get the anger that is out here?


Posted by HardTranceProd on Sep-02-2005 16:33:

Snipers???

Snipers are firing from rooftops, WTF:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/...iper/index.html

WTF is going on down there


Posted by jonSun on Sep-02-2005 16:34:

I just dont understand how air drops of food & water happened quicker 1/2 a world away during the tsunami.


Posted by loconet on Sep-02-2005 16:35:

How crazy is this..

http://www.zippyvideos.com/89110237...ing-in-walmart/


Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-02-2005 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
I just dont understand how air drops of food & water happened quicker 1/2 a world away during the tsunami.


That took longer than 4 days for the US to get supplies there. I also remember that it took a very long time for the helicopters to finally reach those further inland, there was a lot of confusion. Remember when the whole world was bitchin that the US wasn't doing enough initially.

Still doesn't explain why it isn't happening faster here though when they keep saying that there is all this food, aid, and troops.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Sep-02-2005 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by loconet
How crazy is this..

http://www.zippyvideos.com/89110237...ing-in-walmart/


Did you see the kid at the end taking the riding toy car? Wow and the police stealing too....


Posted by biznology on Sep-02-2005 16:45:

heh...

per usual a bunch of bullshit and no one realizing what was already there.

bicker about bush.

income and geography - BEYOND - lack of planning! had something to do with this|


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-02-2005 16:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
I think he is saying that even if the looters are stealing and doing other illegal activities and they get shot for it there will be an uproar because a lot of them are black, which is true, a lot of them are black because unfortunately in the south there is massive amounts of poverty in African American communities (which constitutes a lot of the communities) and they didn't have the resources to flee the storm.

I have to say, the looters deserve to be shot though, and the people that are going around gang raping girls and women. Its total bullshit, black or white they need to be put down with agressive force.


percisely, i was just too flustered at the time to explain it throughly.

and tofu does have taste when you add spices to it.


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-02-2005 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
Sorry but those fuckheads lost their right to the geneva convention when they started preying on the weak and helpless.

All I can say is its good to see America dealing out the same justice to their own citizens that they see fit to deal out to the rest of the world.


quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
by stealing shoes and food? how so?


You forgot, gangs. You forgot rape. You forgot murder.

Don't be so naieve. I consider myself quite liberal. But it's situations like this where I throw those ideals out the window.

+1 Axolotyl. Finally, America shows some domestic responsibility!

EDIT: continued

quote:
Originally posted by stren
I know about the poverty in those communities, however i don't think that's what he meant, judging from the tone he used, and his posts in the other thread.


Meh. It's the internet tones don't carry very well. . Just angry at human nature.

We can't blame the genes that make us what we are, but we can sure use M16s to control them. Ironic isn't it? Using violence to stop violence.

That is how it is done. Kissing ass never stopped civil unrest. There have only been a few that stopped injustice with peaceful civil disobedience. And in their case, they were the down-trodden, and they were making an example of their authorities by having the rest of the world look down upon the governement which was putting them down..

I digress.

Point still stands.

Let New Orleans Rot.

And Stren... you my Polish brother!


Posted by DjConfessions on Sep-02-2005 16:54:

where are the cops?


Posted by Estella on Sep-02-2005 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
percisely, i was just too flustered at the time to explain it throughly.

and tofu does have taste when you add spices to it.




I don't understand. Is New Orleans not a predominately black, lower to middle class state? In times of desperation ALL is irrational. If we would have had food and supplies in the state to begin with, it would be a different story.

For all those dissing on these "irrational" actions, who are you to say what you would do when life as you know it is hanging by a thread? Is survival not a part of human nature? no matter what the terms. I'd like to know the intent behind the gun fire, rapists, etc but of course none of that is being aired. So objective aren't we. But who gives a fuck, SHRED THEIR FUCKING BRAINS.


Posted by A.J. on Sep-02-2005 16:57:

They're looting as well, judging by the video posted above....


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Sep-02-2005 16:58:

actually alot of the ppl. that are looting TVs and such are not doing it because they want new things for themselves, they're doing it so they can take the things and exchange them with others for FOOD


Posted by Estella on Sep-02-2005 17:00:

Don't flame me. I just want to know the intent upon which civilians are killing, raping and "stealing"


Posted by Estella on Sep-02-2005 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
actually alot of the ppl. that are looting TVs and such are not doing it because they want new things for themselves, they're doing it so they can take the things and exchange them with others for FOOD


ding ding ding


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-02-2005 17:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
For all those dissing on these "irrational" actions, who are you to say what you would do when life as you know it is hanging by a thread? Is survival not a part of human nature? no matter what the terms. I'd like to know the intent behind the gun fire, rapists, etc but of course none of that is being aired. So objective aren't we. But who gives a fuck, SHRED THEIR FUCKING BRAINS.


It's one city. It's one state. The entire country was NOT affected. This isn't some post-apocalyptic survival story. This is shitty people doing shitty things and they have no excuse.

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
This doesn't make sense. Those with food are going to give it up for a TV? No.


Yup. Trade food for TV? Give me a break.

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.
I tell you what, if I was a US citizen i would be FUMING at the completely inadequate preparation/response to this disaster by the authorities.


And that's exactly where this anger stems from. I have sympathy for the innocents of this tradgedy, just as I did for the Tsunami.

But what's breaking my balls is I watch these angry black/white folk. Just talking out their assholes, and I see their little children caught in the middle.

Is that fair? Is it fair for these "innocents" to be causing so much turmoil when there are armed gangs, rapists, and murders wandering about?

Show some fucking responsiblity. God.


Posted by Estella on Sep-02-2005 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
The intent is irrelevant. What I would do in the situation is irrelevant. Nothing gives a group of people the right to do those things. No matter how hungry or desperate they are.


DejaVu Jeremy.

Don't tell me national guard member Joe Sprocket would pass up a 64'' plasma flat screen in exchange for a box of Betty Crockers.

Relevancy does not exist in times of desperation.


Posted by wrzonance on Sep-02-2005 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
DejaVu Jeremy.

Don't tell me national guard member Joe Sprocket would pass up a 64'' plasma flat screen in exchange for a box of Betty Crockers.

Relevancy does not exist in times of desperation.


But what average honky/darkie has a plasma screen?

Yea. Right.

Cmon' give me a better argument.


Posted by Estella on Sep-02-2005 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
It's one city. It's one state. The entire country was NOT affected. This isn't some post-apocalyptic survival story. This is shitty people doing shitty things and they have no excuse.



Yup. Trade food for TV? Give me a break.



And that's exactly where this anger stems from. I have sympathy for the innocents of this tradgedy, just as I did for the Tsunami.

But what's breaking my balls is I watch these angry black/white folk. Just talking out their assholes, and I see their little children caught in the middle.

Is that fair? Is it fair for these "innocents" to be causing so much turmoil when there are armed gangs, rapists, and murders wandering about?

Show some fucking responsiblity. God.
\

Oh, so because it's one state and not merely the whole damn U.S. the value of life and survival decreases? Right. All I'm saying is I'm not being to be so quick to condone when I know my actions in a castrophe such as this would not be "revelant" either.


Posted by Slylee on Sep-02-2005 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by klingklang77
do you mean he CAN rot in hell?? can't rot in hell isnt fair.
he cut an effing month long vacation.... what american has a month long vacation, we are lucky that we get 2 weeks...

Tell all those looters to go on over to texas to loot in bush's ranch...



oh woops...yea i meant CAN


nice post gregi88...


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