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gotta admit, honestly, it's not like anyone ANYWHERE doesnt want these people to get the help they need, maybe it's just that certain members of the government are a little *slow*

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Originally posted by MeLLyMeL mario.. don't u think they are doing all they can? it's kind of hard to do things when u can't even drive there.. they aren't miss cleo either... can't predict the future. so what would have been your before hand plan?

the work they are doing now is great. i think its proper they put the national guard out and all


and the food and water coming in will help a ton.

but my point is that they could of maybe planed for this ahead.

cmon dont give me that ms. cleo bs. first of all u guys come with the argument that THE POEPLE KNEW that it was gonan be a huge disaster and now the goverment CANT PREDICT the ammound of chaos?

doesnt make sense.

and yes the gov. knew this was gonna be great. hell WE knew it was gonna be tremendous. so a little planning ahead to me was not too much to ask.

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Originally posted by rhaney Do they make 18 wheelers that can turn into boats for situations like this?

i'm sure theres some japanese engineer whos done this. i'm almost willing to bet on it.

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Originally posted by rhaney FEMA has said several times that in every other disaster that has ever happened in this country... that 4-5 days is a normal timespan to get relief in.. and it has taken them 4 days to get in there. I guess they should have set up shop right in the middle of N.O. before the hurricane hit so that all of their trucks, supplies, copters, etc could have gotten wiped out. I guess that FEMA can magically travel hundreds of miles from wherever they are set up.. and instantly be in N.O. when the storm passes. Do they make 18 wheelers that can turn into boats for situations like this?

ok i stopped reading your posts. not worth reading.

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Originally posted by nchs09 ok i stopped reading your posts. not worth reading.

its like beating a dead horse isnt it? Thats the whole fucking point of my posts.... so Michael Moor can go fuck himself... its getting nowhere.

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Originally posted by rhaney its like beating a dead horse isnt it? Thats the whole fucking point of my posts.... so Michael Moor can go fuck himself... its getting nowhere.

dude that wasnt even the argument ffs.

only a couple of posts

well people are sure finding it pretty easy to manuever around the city and loot and start fires

::SINGS DAVID BOWIE'S "I'M AFRAID OF AMERICANS"::

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin new orleans is not as prepared for a major hurricane like south florida. most of these people had no clue what was going to happen. if katrina had hit here as a cat 4 or 5, i bet you 90% of the problems that arose in new orleans would not have happened here (and not just cuz of the flooding). simply because people here know how to deal with hurricanes. most people would of had atleast a 2 week supply of canned goods and clean drinking water and that would of allowed for enough time for the government to get here and help. and the superdome was not a good shelter. before the storm even hit i heard on the news "we think it'll hold up." THINK?! YOU FUCKING THINK?! if you're gonna put that many people in there, you better be fucking CERTAIN that it'll hold up. and it obviously didnt hold up cuz of the shit that broke and all that crap. blah to fucking politcal discussions on ta. this is so gay. and i'm so done with this. this country sucks, and this is just another example of why i cant wait to get the fuck out asap.

Good bye and good riddens...

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Originally posted by glittergirl well people are sure finding it pretty easy to manuever around the city and loot and start fires

yep, and rape and shoot at rescuers. It's horrible.

And living in America with freedom really is terrible isn't it? Pls.

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Originally posted by Vlad Someone needs to shoot that fat fuck.

He makes great points that ALL.. I mean.. ALL Of the americans are wondering, right wing, left wing, middle.. everyone is wondering the same stuff the Michel said, and he said great points which are coming into play.. stuff that all over the news have been questioned. Some may hate on this guy, I know he's pretty biased, but he does have an awesome argument.. and the kind of stuff that Michael is saying, is the kind of stuff that everyone argued about when Bush decided to go to war.. WTF will happen when there's a disaster here in the US all of the troops are in a dumbass war?!?!.. Look at the news and that is the result.

Okay i didnt even read wtf that fat ass had to say. But as we all know he hates the Bush administration, fuk he was to close to sell his underwears in our past elections, so that his good friend Kerry could win. Many reporters are criticising Bush for what has happened in New Orleans. Well why the fuk arent our navy ships there? Because it basically takes a fukin week to go from Virginia to New Orleans in our ships. Ladies and gentleman, in my opinion Bush has reacted slow on this issue, but its not all his fukin fault. Its also the fault on the New Orleans local govt, those Bush decide on their local issues? No! There is no fukin govt in New Orleans, there is no order, the police can fukin do their job, they have basically abondened some of the people. Its really sad what they are living, they are living in a State of Nature, meaning like animals. All of us by nature are animals, we would fukin rob to survive, this is how we truly are, and whats happening there is a perfect example, i dont want to go furthere on this philophical shit because if i go on i would never end, but i encourage you to read the philosophy of Russeau regarding the state of nature(if there are intelligent people here)

If the news trucks ( and buses rolling in and out of the superdome ).. can come in and out, why cant 18 wheelers?!?!.. Whats up with all the Choppers?!?..Food can be dropped.. theres something called boats.. among a bunch of other things. and bla bla bla.. There's just no excuse for the slow response really. Even Bush admited today about it..

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Originally posted by LiquidX If the news trucks ( and buses rolling in and out of the superdome ).. can come in and out, why cant 18 wheelers?!?!.. Whats up with all the Choppers?!?..Food can be dropped.. theres something called boats.. among a bunch of other things. and bla bla bla.. There's just no excuse for the slow response really. Even Bush admited today about it..

Dude right now bridges dont fukin exist to transport anything, that shiet is down. Supermarkets are fukin empty in New Orleans, if not the food is raw. The only way would be for helicopters and ships to deliver the food, but to transport it NO WAY!, since there are no bridges, and for this reason supplies cannot come from the outside.

Arnold PLEASEEEE fucking know your facts before posting...


+1 for Felipe!

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Originally posted by arnoldjch Dude dright now bridges dont fukin exist to transport anything, that shiet is down. Supermarkets are fukin empty in New Orleans, if not the food is raw. The only way would be for helicopters and ships to deliver the food, but to transport it NO WAY!, since there are no bridges, and for this reason supplies cannot come from the outside.

You are correct.. then tell me how the hell are they transporting people out of the superdome?!?!.. BUSES. YEs, the main artery to the city is shut down but there are alternate, LONGER ways.. but there is. IM not throwing the blame on Bush, there's something called the Homeland Security, in which there has been BILLIONS of dollars invested on it for this kind of things, terrorism, disasters and all that kind of thing.. and whats been seen its just ludicrus.. I understand all of what has been mentioned, but its just obviouse of the slow response in the assistance. Like I said.. Even BUSH admited it to it for those that keep defending that everything done is correct, just to let you guys know that your guy admited how slow the assistance is.. and that all he can do now is correct it.. I will look for that Speech and posted here if non of you believe me on that. Its dumb to go anti bush yeah, but its clear to criticize the government and this administration as a whole on how they've handled this.

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Originally posted by Citron Good bye and good riddens...

and whats your problem you cuunt? you dont say one word and then say some stupid shit like that? stay in the chicago forums or whatever its called and stay the fuck away from us you fag.

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Originally posted by FallingMoon Arnold PLEASEEEE fucking know your facts before posting... +1 for Felipe!

omg princess if i dont know anything correct me. The statement about the bridges is true, there is no way that supply can come from other states or w.e have you, get me? The food in NO is probably all raw, since there is no electricity( like meat,milk etc) but all the other foodim sure its all gone, with the looting and crap. So as i said the only way for the NO peep to get food is by air or sea, correct?

I think its time for Bush to go bye bye

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Originally posted by arnoldjch omg princess if i dont know anything correct me. The statement about the bridges is true, there is no way that supply can come from other states or w.e have you, get me? The food in NO is probably all raw, since there is no electricity( like meat,milk etc) but all the other foodim sure its all gone, with the looting and crap. So as i said the only way for the NO peep to get food is by air or sea, correct?

Dude you are so damm paranoid

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Originally posted by LiquidX Food can be dropped..

a) where? in flooded waters?
b) can you imagine dropping food, water, and supplies to 10,000 desperate refugees? A lot of people would be getting killed if that happened.

The problem is NOT at the Superdome.. sure, the inside of the dome is nasty and has problems.. but they are all getting fed... the problem is throughout the rest of the city.

Unless they have 18 wheel trucks that can become floating boats... There is NOWAY for them to get around the city. The superdome is not flooded... the superdomedome is the highest spot in the city... thats not where the problem is.. and thats how they can get buses in and out of there.

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Originally posted by LiquidX Dude you are so damm paranoid

He is just stupid, take him off out of the sandbox and beat the shit out of him, I call fallingmoon and baby rachel, they are hanging out at chuck e cheese, happy hour, and they will hit the skateboards and come over and beat his ass as well

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Originally posted by LiquidX You are correct.. then tell me how the hell are they transporting people out of the superdome?!?!.. BUSES. YEs, the main artery to the city is shut down but there are alternate, LONGER ways.. but there is. IM not throwing the blame on Bush, there's something called the Homeland Security, in which there has been BILLIONS of dollars invested on it for this kind of things, terrorism, disasters and all that kind of thing.. and whats been seen its just ludicrus.. I understand all of what has been mentioned, but its just obviouse of the slow response in the assistance. Like I said.. Even BUSH admited it to it for those that keep defending that everything done is correct, just to let you guys know that your guy admited how slow the assistance is.. and that all he can do now is correct it.. I will look for that Speech and posted here if non of you believe me on that. Its dumb to go anti bush yeah, but its clear to criticize the government and this administration as a whole on how they've handled this.

Dude first i like your position, the one that blame Bush for all the shit is happening are just stupid, that dont know anything about politics. Well Felipe i think that the buses had probably been there, im sure that in NO they have Bus companies, like Coach and all that crap that are available for use, or maybe as you know they have sports team and shiet and they probably use their transportation to move the people. But note these type of transporations are in New Orleans already, i think. I doubt that they are coming from outside. Bush is going to give like $10bn of aid, correct me if im wrong i think its more, but remember the process of aid is sometimes takes a bit long, because it has to pass through congress, especially when dealing with money, if you understand politics you get what i mean. But since bush is also the commander and chief, YES he was slow regarding sending navy ships and w.e have you to assist the people

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Originally posted by mdamon7278 I think its time for Bush to go bye bye

Yea.. John Kerry would be doing a hell of a better job right? LOL

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Originally posted by rhaney a) where? in flooded waters? b) can you imagine dropping food, water, and supplies to 10,000 desperate refugees? A lot of people would be getting killed if that happened. The problem is NOT at the Superdome.. sure, the inside of the dome is nasty and has problems.. but they are all getting fed... the problem is throughout the rest of the city. Unless they have 18 wheel trucks that can become floating boats... There is NOWAY for them to get around the city. The superdome is not flooded... the superdomedome is the highest spot in the city... thats not where the problem is.. and thats how they can get buses in and out of there.

a) Nope, in the superdome.
b) I could imagine its just dumb. Everyone is making their way to the superdome.. and where the ones been rescued are been dropped off. Sadly, people are dying IN the superdome. Its true that the problem is NOT ONLY in the superdome, but throughout the city. And no, not all are getting fed in the superdome. There's about 60-70,000 people in and around the Superdome.. Im never mentioned the city as a whole.. I was talking about the superdome where the majority of refugees are gathering and looking for help.. hence it would be a great place to START at least, but 0 of that.. get me?.... Anyways, from what IM hearing assistance is finally arriving at the dome like I just said.. and evacuation on the hospitals have resumed and convoy's of buses are taking people out, as well as choppers dropping off food like I just said.. all of the above of what I just said should have been done its been done as we speak.. so yeah, IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE before. good source of news www.cnn.com theres also pictures for those of who cant read uhum .

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