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re-read what i wrote and then read what you wrote
um i addressed why i call it disrespectful.
and no westerners help is required. we've all seen the consequences in Iraq
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| Originally posted by TRANCEEEE for your information. I've lived there for 11 years. I've seen it all. i label it disrespectful b/c many are FORCED to wear veils against their will. If it was a tradition, then i would have to agree with you. Its not a tradition. It's forced upon people. People in Iran no longer care about politics/religion as much as before. 70 % of the population is under 35 years old ... the 10-15 million in tehran SMUGGLE alcohol / drugs, theres prostitution everywhere (secretly/underground) there are many issues ... this is just one ... SPORTS + RELIGION/POLITICS should not mix |
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| Originally posted by El Kay Dee if u think thats bad, look at Saudi Arabia where all women, whether christian, muslim, hindu etc have to be covered up inthe burka, cant ride bikes, arent allowed to work and so on. also they have public executions/amputations every friday in a stadium ah...but u dont hear about that and the US wont want to change that cos of all the ties with the government there cos of the oil. |
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| Originally posted by El Kay Dee if u think thats bad, look at Saudi Arabia where all women, whether christian, muslim, hindu etc have to be covered up inthe burka, cant ride bikes, arent allowed to work and so on. also they have public executions/amputations every friday in a stadium ah...but u dont hear about that and the US wont want to change that cos of all the ties with the government there cos of the oil. |
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| Originally posted by TRANCEEEE I'm fully aware of that. thats another topic. girls in iran werent allowed to ride bikes. b/c their ASS would stick out and that would put dirty thoughts in a males head. until, the girls started riding them regardless and its now tolerated. People in iran are publically executed ... hanged from a crane in front of a mass of people adult or children. journalists are put in jail for lengthy periods for expressing their thoughts about the government... etc ... girls in school are checked every week for signs of pedicure or eyebrow plucking !!!! and yess, we hardly hear about these things |
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| Originally posted by El Kay Dee u just admitted the bigger things to worry about than being covered up from head to toe playing soccer. cheers. |
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| Originally posted by Skipper It is true that womens rights in Iran are not as they are in other parts of the world...but I dont think those pictures demonstrate that. |
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| Originally posted by bass drive isn't the other team from an Arabic/Islamic country?  btw iLLnaDa, I think you are muslim right? why not cover your hair? (wondering question, not attacking) |
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess actually i think these pictures demonstrate the opposite. they are able to play soccer. that is awesome. i had no idea. i believe this is a good thing. and they have to dress like that to stick to their religion. they aren't doing that because they are oppressed. |
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| Originally posted by NuERA Before labeling something as degrading or disrespectful the viewpoint that it comes from needs to be acknowledged. Although you may be of Iranian decent, you are also male, live in a Western country and go to a Western University. As a Western society I don't believe we should try and alter laws in other countries to fit 'our' views of what is appropriate. If Western society wants to step-in I feel it should be to help organize these commuties at a grassroots level to help them attain the rights and freedoms they want.  |
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| Originally posted by TRANCEEEE ... hanged from a crane in front of a mass of people adult or children. |
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| Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty that guy raped and killed little girl so he deserved it. |
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| Originally posted by El Kay Dee everytime u masterbate, a little kitty dies.... we should stone u.... |
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| Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty i dont get it? |
Sahand I totally understand where you’re coming from on this. If the majority of women don't agree
to covering up then there should be some reform. And in the case of the Iranian government, it looks like
they really don’t give a damn. Which is sad because if you do believe that the younger generations of
women are becoming more liberal and want to take it off then they should. As for the religious
implications, well I know quite a few Muslim's who live here and practice their faith and many of
their women do not have to cover up in public, only in their place of worship.
Just like everything else in life.... change can only begin from WITHIN!
What good does it do if we sit here and complain? Nothing really. U know, I know... most people know that it's wrong to impose or force these women to "cover up". But there's absolutely NOTHING that the Canadian gv't or UN or anybody (individually) can do unless there's an uprising or revolt from people within the country/state. Once that happens...well then they would have the assistance and support from those abroad.
And also..although it's seems ridiculous that these women have to cover themselves up to play soccer... well.. think about it... just a few years ago they weren't even allowed to play soccer. That itself is a step towards change. BABY STEPS.. take the victories as they come..however small they are. U can't expect the entire mentality, social structure to change overnight.
doesnt bother me....kinda useless thread
Islam is a disease of the mind.
These woman are FORCED to cover themselves up in this disgusting symbol of subordination. I cant beleive some of you are actually defending this attire by labelling it as tradition or something that they view as being mandatory.
Humans are sexual beings, men have an equal sexual desire like women do. Women shouldnt be afraid to flaunt their beauty and sexuality. It is natural.
These religious fuck heads need to be shot and pissed on by the whole country
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| Originally posted by TheVrk doesnt bother me....kinda useless thread |
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| Originally posted by Stilez Just like everything else in life.... change can only begin from WITHIN! What good does it do if we sit here and complain? Nothing really. U know, I know... most people know that it's wrong to impose or force these women to "cover up". But there's absolutely NOTHING that the Canadian gv't or UN or anybody (individually) can do unless there's an uprising or revolt from people within the country/state. Once that happens...well then they would have the assistance and support from those abroad. And also..although it's seems ridiculous that these women have to cover themselves up to play soccer... well.. think about it... just a few years ago they weren't even allowed to play soccer. That itself is a step towards change. BABY STEPS.. take the victories as they come..however small they are. U can't expect the entire mentality, social structure to change overnight. |
LOL @ this thread!!!
Sahand, let me ask you a serious question. Do you go to temple???
just pretend theyre going scuba diving after the game
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| Originally posted by TRANCEEEE I see, Freedom of religion + speech is lacking... therefore, its not a good thing. IT'S NOT tradition. |
hmmm i am wondering Tranceee ... if this so shameful to you and shits why did u have to make a thread and show to everyone who didnt see it? if i ever came across something shameful i wont show it to everyone and say hey look how shameful. thats just stupid. makes u no better than others.
and personally i dont think there is anything wrong with this. i actually respect the fact that those women r playing soccer covered and stuff. they now have liberation they never had before. everyone bitches about women from islamic countries and how they dont have same rights as men but when they do get some rights such as playing soccer covered ppl still bitch. hmmm .
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