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Originally posted by n0bben main source

I dig Main Source...but i wouldnt consider them to be icons or anything....they had their 15 minutes though.

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Originally posted by Stanza Actually hip hop originated from the four elements: Dj Mc Breaking Grafitti

Actually MCing/Rapping did not come about till a few years into HipHop.

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Originally posted by Lepanto hip-hop culture is urban, therefore skateboarding could be a part of it. mos def's video for ghetto rock has skaters in it

It also had a fire-hydrant...is that HipHop also?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 It also had a fire-hydrant...is that HipHop also?

I used to skate almost every day for 5 years. Never listened to much hip hop. Most the the skaters I've known have been into punk and ska actually.

Skating has fuck all to do with hip hop really. Infact, we used to get into fights with homies all the time. Dumb ass wannabes hanging round malls. Atleast we were there to skate... lol...

damn thats fucked up that no one even mentioned People Under the Stairs. they are the best hip-hop group of all time. they are amazing, basically everything they say is badass. they are #1.
but others like del, he was cool, but now too many people love his shit so its kind of a sellout type of hip-hop to listen to. tribe called quest is unreal as well. but if you have never heard people under the stairs, you need to.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 It also had a fire-hydrant...is that HipHop also?

mhm and little girls...crucial

Mos Def is one of my fav hip hop artists at the moment ..

And i'll always love the Jungle brothers cause that was the first hip hop act i got to see and god they're legends ..

Errr i dunno, i guess i might be an idiot too and be berated but i really like aussie hip hop, there are thee guys here, the hilltop hoods and they make some wicked rhymes imo ...

Well yeah, anyways if you've heard of em and you like em, big ups

P.S.
they had a chance to sell out to record companies in america but they stayed true and became an aussie success story helping out aussie recording companies witht here fine work

Maybe this will help? I pulled this off the net...

Hip-hop versus rap

Are they terms for the same thing? No, says Davey D, nationally renowned hip-hop historian. He acknowledges that some people think rap is a more frivolous form of hip-hop, but thinks ''that's a false definition. One is part of a whole. Rap is part of a larger entity we call hip-hop, which is a culture.''

Hip-hop n., an American cultural movement composed of four main parts: breakdancing and graffiti art along with two more well-known aspects known as hip-hop music; they are rapping (emceeing) and DJ-ing.

Rap v., the act of saying rhymes to the actual beat of the music.

yeah, very nice..

i suppose "turntablism" could count as true hip-hop? i can only think of one name at the moment (Q-Bert).

Grand Master Flash - Adventures on the Wheels of Steel!!!!!!

Okay... ummm... 2Pac is 'shitty?' Yikes...

Overall, I say Nas. Nas' first 2 albums are two of the greatest of all time.

As for 'underground' rap (which I guess is what this thread is basically getting at):

Living Legends (which includes):
Eligh
The Grouch
Scarub
Murs
among others...

In-Q is reallll underground and unsigned, but he is great. Probably my favorite right now.
Isosceles is old and defunct. But their album from 98 was so dope.
Cyne. Pretty obscure, but they're damn good.

turntablism is fun
DJ Babu is unbeliable, everone should check him out.

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Originally posted by Estella Which De La Soul album would be best to start with? Go from oldest to most recent?

Quite simply: all of them.

My favorite De La album changes just about monthly/weekly, but right now, I'd have to go with Buhloone Mindstate. Last week it was Stakes.

how can you like this gansta music with wanna-be a hooligan attitude???it's a joke music..well, everyone to their own l guess

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Originally posted by mr.anderson how can you like this gansta music with wanna-be a hooligan attitude???it's a joke music..well, everyone to their own l guess

by saying that you have basically just told us all that you know absolutely nothing about hiphop

I don't care if you don't like it but please...

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Originally posted by Serp by saying that you have basically just told us all that you know absolutely nothing about hiphop I don't care if you don't like it but please...

Not worth the effort, he's just another one of the dense and mindless.

has anyone mentioned the herbaliser yet? i still love them lol

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Originally posted by digitul punk AFAIK, try looking up stuff by Atmosphere.. they are pretty good and non commercial.. (i could be wrong though)

atmosphere is okay but i cant say im a huge fan. the newest cd (had cd release party here in milw this past tues) is dissapointing. the god loves ugly cd is the only one worth any praise in my opinion and even then i'm being generous. i think he's way too.. 'modern suburbia' to be rapping. he was raised in minneapolis for christs sake. how can you be from minneapolis and be gangster? not one person in the whole 4 million person metro makes less than 40,000 a year except college students and even then they're pushing it. problem is really his beats are uninspired and reptitive. a lot of the beats in his songs are incredibly similar to every other song on every other album and theres moments where he just as such a lack of flow that its almost hard to listen to. too bad my best college friend, whos dorm i chill at all the time is addicted to atmosphere so i have to listen to it against my will a lot.

my opinion of good hip hop includes but is no limited to, common, wu tang, binary star, three 6 mafia, mos def, etc

Most rappers suck, but some have made one or more real good tracks, with a real good message.

Casual Brothers - People (I love this one)
Eminem - Sing for the Moment (yup, eminem is good, and this is one of his best ever.)

What I consider "true" is what have a meaning. as soon as a song includes one of these phrases: "get dough", "Yo!", "a'it" etc I throw the cd away, no question.

And oh my god. You know Kanye West - Diamonds From Sierra Leone? It sucks.

Thing is the song is about the mine in africa right? Were slaves worked ones, and the workers principally still is slaves. That is what it should be about, and that is what the sample is about, and that is what the video is about, and that is was the title is about. Now let me cite:

"It take more than a magazine to kill my Vibe does
Does he write his own rhymes?
Well sort of, I think em
That mean I forgot better shit than u ever thought of "

Need I say more? It's not even rhymes man.

I detest rap... especially the commercial shit kids listen to. Mtv destroys music...

lm not saying that all people that listen to rap/hip-hop are ganstas or wannabes, but come on all rapers have this attitude! Look at them MOST of them arrogant! not my scene at all, l HAVE tried to undertand this genre of music, but it's does not do for me..not talking for everyone! The attitude, the way they speak,the way they dress etc!

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Originally posted by mr.anderson the way they speak

I'm not really fond of your pathetic excuse for grammar either.

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Originally posted by PutBoy Casual Brothers - People (I love this one) Eminem - Sing for the Moment (yup, eminem is good, and this is one of his best ever.)

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Originally posted by PutBoy I detest rap... especially the commercial shit kids listen to. Mtv destroys music...

uhm..

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Originally posted by n0bben uhm..

he thinks eminem is good music lol

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