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Posted by TranceHater on Oct-05-2005 15:14:

ASTROS WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD LIDGE BY THEN SO THE YANKEES WILL GET HIM VIA FREE-AGENCY, RYAN WILL BE THE YANKS 7TH INNING GUY NEXT YEAR FOR A nominal fee

Posted by Member of X on Oct-05-2005 15:18:

If you take 208 million and rearrange it and remanage it to today's stars, they probably could have a loaded bullpen, a good CF, etc. Instead of Kevin Brown at 15 million, instead of Bernie at 15 million, instead of Quantril at 3 million, instead of Jorge at 12 million, etc...

Clean up the books and using the same payroll would net a much better team given better management...

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-05-2005 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Don't generalize Yankee fans all into one category. I respect Rivera as the greatest closer in the history, I don't see how I'd expect it to always be like that...

Contrary to your belief, there is a lot of smart Yankee fans.

I know. Trust me, I do. I know you're a baseball fan before a Yankees fan, which in turn makes you a smart fan no matter what team you dig. When I say "Yankee fans," I mean Vinny from the Bronx who calls up M&MD and complains about Randy Johnson in May... and now sucks Randy's dick. "Mets fans" are the same way. I just think it will be funny/interesting to hear the responses in the coming years.

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-05-2005 15:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
If you take 208 million and rearrange it and remanage it to today's stars, they probably could have a loaded bullpen, a good CF, etc. Instead of Kevin Brown at 15 million, instead of Bernie at 15 million, instead of Quantril at 3 million, instead of Jorge at 12 million, etc...

Clean up the books and using the same payroll would net a much better team given better management...

Well duh. That's with any team. Oakland does it every year with a $60M or less pay roll.

Posted by Member of X on Oct-05-2005 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Well duh. That's with any team. Oakland does it every year with a $60M or less pay roll.

Moneyball was a great book wasn't it?

Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-05-2005 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
I know. Trust me, I do. I know you're a baseball fan before a Yankees fan, which in turn makes you a smart fan no matter what team you dig. When I say "Yankee fans," I mean Vinny from the Bronx who calls up M&MD and complains about Randy Johnson in May... and now sucks Randy's dick. "Mets fans" are the same way. I just think it will be funny/interesting to hear the responses in the coming years.

Do you have to be a fan of the sport to be a fan of the team if you were a player of the sport? So I don't have to necessarily follow the league and every player in order to be considered a smart fan since i played the sport for 15yrs of my life. I choose the less involved method, rooting for my home team. Go Yankees.

did any of that make sense?

Posted by verndogs on Oct-05-2005 15:40:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
Do you have to be a fan of the sport to be a fan of the team if you were a player of the sport? So I don't have to necessarily follow the league and every player in order to be considered a smart fan since i played the sport for 15yrs of my life. I choose the less involved method, rooting for my home team. Go Yankees.

did any of that make sense?

no

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-05-2005 15:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Moneyball was a great book wasn't it?

Yep. And people still haven't caught on to the general idea of it.

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-05-2005 15:45:

Posted by Member of X on Oct-05-2005 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Well... I guess I'd consider you a smart Yankees fan. But not a smart baseball fan.

+1

But knowing about the rest of baseball helps in being a better Yankee fan. Example: when they are trying to trade for someone, or sign someone as a free agent, then I have a better perspective if they are getting slime or gold.

If I follow the other teams more, I have a better perspective of my teams chances against them....

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-05-2005 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
+1

But knowing about the rest of baseball helps in being a better Yankee fan. Example: when they are trying to trade for someone, or sign someone as a free agent, then I have a better perspective if they are getting slime or gold.

If I follow the other teams more, I have a better perspective of my teams chances against them....

Agreed. Which is why I was never scared of playing the Nationals or Diamondbacks this year, despite every media outlet saying "Look out for those Nats and D-Backs. They are forces to be reckoned with." Looking at those teams, you see they suck. How these sports analysts get these jobs are beyond me. Besides Peter Gammons, no one else knows shit on ESPN.

Posted by Wheel of Steel on Oct-05-2005 21:31:

Posted by Member of X on Oct-05-2005 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Wheel of Steel
"ARE" A LOT OF SMART YANKEE FANS.

wherever the drums take me... spell it right on your location smart ass

Posted by pvd420 on Oct-05-2005 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
too bad the LDS is only 5 games. lol

obviously...the point was that boston will still take the same approach to the next game and not let an opening loss rattle them..

Posted by verndogs on Oct-05-2005 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by pvd420
obviously...the point was that boston will still take the same approach to the next game and not let an opening loss rattle them..

yeah...hope they don't have to go to their bullpen

Posted by partyhopper on Oct-05-2005 22:44:

good Game 1 between Astros and Braves, before the Astros blew it open in the 8th
Braves on their way to losing their 4th game in a row, going back to the sweep by the Marlins in the final weekend of the season

good classic matchup for Game 2 - Clemens vs. Smoltz

Posted by partyhopper on Oct-06-2005 01:43:

White Sox come back from 4-0 deficit to win Game 2, 5-4, and take a 2-0 lead over Red Sox!
One win away from first postseason series win since 1917
Too bad it comes at expense of Tony "Gaffenino", who pulled a Bill Buckner

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-06-2005 02:05:

Hah! The Red Sox not beating the White Sox would be the funniest thing since the Yankees losing the season series to the Devil Rays!!!

Posted by Member of X on Oct-06-2005 02:09:

Or being swept by the KC Royals in one series...

Go White Sox!!

Ha ha Red Sux, trust me you're not coming back this time!

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-06-2005 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Or being swept by the KC Royals in one series...

Forgot about that.

But yeah... if the Angels can pull out the series against the Yanks, it would be such a funny Post Season.

Posted by Vlad on Oct-06-2005 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
Forgot about that.

But yeah... if the Angels can pull out the series against the Yanks, it would be such a funny Post Season.

All of a sudden you would think the post-season wont be boring after-all.

Honestly though, I dont think there is anything worse than going up 3-0 in the ALCS and than loosing 4 straight games - its so bad that its never happened in any sports history.

Yanks might be the 'winningest' team in sports history, but they also hold the worst loss in sports history.

Posted by verndogs on Oct-06-2005 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
All of a sudden you would think the post-season wont be boring after-all.

Honestly though, I dont think there is anything worse than going up 3-0 in the ALCS and than loosing 4 straight games - its so bad that its never happened in any sports history.

Yanks might be the 'winningest' team in sports history, but they also hold the worst loss in sports history.

I think the 1942 Detroit Red Wings collapse against the Toronto Maple Leafs had to be the worst series collapse in the history of sports since that happened the Stanley Cup finals.

Also, this year, AC Milan, up 3-0 in the champions league game, gave up 3 goals in 6 minutes to Liverpool in the 2nd half and then lost in penalty kicks has to be slightly worse than collapsing from a 3-0 ALCS Series lead IMO

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-06-2005 02:35:

Posted by Vlad on Oct-06-2005 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
The Cubs haven't won a WS since 1908. They haven't been a WS since 1945. I beg to differ, my friend.

How does that fit in to what I was saying?

Posted by Shamez214 on Oct-06-2005 02:40:

And... to tell you the truth, unless it winds up:

Angels - White Sox
Braves - Padres

this is going to be a very boring Post-Season. It will be funny when the Red Sox don't make it out of this round and it would add to it if the Yankees don't either, but the Astros v. Cardinals is SOOOOO boring.

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