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i may have heard of tone deff, haven't heard any of their music though.... any of you guys posted a remix??? (those who actually wanted to) [bashers gtfo... lolz]

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Originally posted by Axolotyl .....I'd have a go, but I make psytrance, and well... it would just sound rediculous. And no... industrial and by that lineage goa or psy never came from hip hop or techno or anything like that. Completely different origins.

btw if you did something like infected mushroom's converting vegetarians song (for the remix)... it would sound killer... have you heard that album??

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Originally posted by expanded Wow, have you EVER heard any good beats??? And no, i don't mean those regular beats containing 1 60-70's ska/disco sample looped over and over again... There are few beatmakers out there knowing their shit, and since you (i assume haven't heard it) don't know ... it's best to keep you mouth shut about something you don't know jack about... Saying that hip-hop isn't musical is like when ignorant shitheads says that's trance is all about pushing a couple of buttons and you've got your song... clearly you lack enjoying/hearing what's musical and not... and for that i feel sorry for you man... however... if i miss understood you, and you said that hip-hop doesn't offer YOU anything... then it's all good cuz people can't enjoy every single style which is out there.

Ok , now I know your definition of music then, fire arm shots , screams , "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not a narrow minded who only listens to trance, I listen to New Age, Ambient, Classical music, salsa, hell even opera man, and I can tell you now none of them can be beaten musically by hip hop, and I'm not gonna tell you to shut the f*ck up like many persons here who don't respect people's point of view, I wouldn't go as low as that.

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Originally posted by PDM Ok , now I know your definition of music then, fire arm shots , screams , "you die b*tch" choruses

that's pretty ignorant man... i expected better judgement from you.

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Originally posted by PDM I'm not a narrow minded

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Originally posted by PDM Ok , now I know your definition of music then, fire arm shots , screams , "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations. And don't get me wrong, I'm not a narrow minded who only listens to trance, I listen to New Age, Ambient, Classical music, salsa, hell even opera man, and I can tell you now none of them can be beaten musically by hip hop, and I'm not gonna tell you to shut the f*ck up like many persons here who don't respect people's point of view, I wouldn't go as low as that.

I laught @ man...

seriously DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL??? noo... you don't know me!

Anyway... this says it all... hehe. I don't wanna fight...

Peace out all... *poff*

Oh and no... i don't listen to "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations.


This is what i DO & listen to: Mixdown_14oct.mp3

JJooo...

I have travelled far and through both time and genres... I'll give it a try...

For ever lasting, the roughness of time... Ghost of Mozart

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Originally posted by expanded I laught @ man... seriously DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING AT ALL??? noo... you don't know me! Anyway... this says it all... hehe. I don't wanna fight... Peace out all... *poff* Oh and no... i don't listen to "you die b*tch" choruses, lack of chord progressions , Deep Basses that lack of recognizable pitch , and a genre that without vocals wouldn't exist because the "music" itself wouldn't keep up with the expectations. This is what i DO & listen to: Mixdown_14oct.mp3

Yeah that mp3 you shared there is a real musical composition.

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Originally posted by EtherealSL that's pretty ignorant man... i expected better judgement from you. ...

Why did you cut the argument, I believe I posted more than that. Now who is the ignorant.... and so you know, I'm arguing about hip hop, not R & B and other genres that many people find them similar to each other when is not.

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Originally posted by andreas1999 i am sooooo tempted to write something along the lines of "you're a f**king retard" but i'm not going to. you're wrong, though. if you've been studying classical guitar for 8 years I guess that gives you more than "lil skilz"? so get to it then. next post i suggest you post your latest hip-hop tune or stfu.

What a retard, dont you see he is refering to all?, not him, it was so obvious, why he would waste his time producing some crappy hip hop when he can produce orchestral music or any genre he wants? besides obviously he hates Hip hop, doh!.
I will explain you just what he said:

Go to the center, pick up 10 guys, give them a sampler, a beatbox and ask them to try to do hip hop, I ensure you in 2 months you will listen some tunes, now take the same 10 guys, give them a cello, viollin, even better, ask them to write a score and in 2 months you will see they dont have nothing.
Plz, stop showing ous the lack of arguments from your part and stfu my hypocrital friend.

Stop arguing. Being elitist about one form of music is being narrow-minded just like being racist.

Please. Thanks



I'll try to take a stab at one of the tracks if I find time.

Also, would it be possible by any chance to post up lyrics? Thanks.

I don't know why everyone's saying these two genres are incompatible. I'm managing pretty well myself. The two genres actually have a lot in common, when one gets down to it. It's about time something new got infused into the trance sound (why not rapping?), and it's about time rap started to vary its rhythms subtly over the course of a tune. Why not combine the two?

Pretty soon, all EDM will be intelligent raps over three different sped up breakbeat tracks with slowly developing hoover melodies and an ambient wash all over a funky bassline.

Wheee!

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Originally posted by PDM Why did you cut the argument, I believe I posted more than that. Now who is the ignorant.... and so you know, I'm arguing about hip hop, not R & B and other genres that many people find them similar to each other when is not.

but the fact that you even mentioned that is straight up ignorance. unintellible basslines do not define hip hop. if you like classical music so much, check out "jedi mind tricks". you might be surprised. or actually, don't check bother it out, and just continue to rant on how hip hop isn't real music.

how about this: trance sucks, all it is, is beepy sounds with a constant beat and some offbeat bassline.

whatever man, on second thought, you win. i'm not tryina start a fight and get on bad terms with you TAs. pdm and kopi, i still got respect for you all even if our musical opinions differ, and even though i heavily disagree. whatever.

so in conclusion, you're right: hip hop sucks, it's not music, and it's only for uneducated black people ("niggas")that live in the ghetto. i'm not arguing anymore.

maybe something for a mashup

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Originally posted by dj_palm what the hell, this is hip hop.

LMFAO

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Originally posted by PDM Sry man, but just the idea of remixing a hip hop track using trance makes me puke, I would end up creating something way different and then it wouldn't be a remix, why? because Hip Hop does not offer anything musically, one of the weakest genres of music today, yeah, it is popular, but the popular is not always what is good , and this is no exception. And if you don't wished to be attacked then please do not attack us proposing a remix for your genre, that is an insult to our culture and musical taste, I know there are some hip hop forums where you can offer someone to do a remix, go there, and leave us alone, free us with your overreacting and arrogant attitude.

speak for yourself... while i dont agree completely with this guys attitude, at least he is trying something new. and not ALL hip hop is the same as the shit you hear on peak time radio. there is good stuff out there, especially older stuff. sure alot of the stuff we hear these days is all about bling bling, hoes and cars, but as far as im concerned that isnt hip hop, its pop music.

of course hip hop offers something musically, its all about rhythm... rhythm is a musical quality. i think you are quite narrow minded if you truely believe that hip hop isnt music. that goes for everyone with the same attitude. just like your average hip hop fan thinks that trance is shit based on what he or she hears on the radio (dj sammy, scooter)... alot of you guys think that hiphop is shit based on what you hear (Kano, G Unit)...


but yeah, its a bit off of this dude to come in here and talk to people like shit. but seriously guys, stop this petty battle about whos genre came first and whos is better, grow up!

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Originally posted by Darkness_Hero What a retard, dont you see he is refering to all?, not him, it was so obvious, why he would waste his time producing some crappy hip hop when he can produce orchestral music or any genre he wants? besides obviously he hates Hip hop, doh!. I will explain you just what he said: Go to the center, pick up 10 guys, give them a sampler, a beatbox and ask them to try to do hip hop, I ensure you in 2 months you will listen some tunes, now take the same 10 guys, give them a cello, viollin, even better, ask them to write a score and in 2 months you will see they dont have nothing. Plz, stop showing ous the lack of arguments from your part and stfu my hypocrital friend.

im sorry but that post makes almost no sense...

This seems a bit senseless to me.
You get guys posting all sorts of stuff on the forum anyways that isn't always trance related.

Why does it have to be such an issue?

Besides, take a vocal sample, vocoder it and make some really dirty tech trance or electro house out of it.

He who dares wins and all that.

Cheers
Nem

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