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| Originally posted by Freak Personally i think te album should be Stuart Price featuring madonna. His production and writing style all over it- id lay bets that Madonna hasnt actually written much of it at all bar some of the vocals (which arent great truth be told)...but then, thats nothing new. and: Hit the nail on the head. Its not a tribute to Disco- its a tribute to the sheep and their dollar bills. p.s- that Abba sample in 'Hung up'- absolutely unforgivably bad.  |
i remember having the Ray of Light CD back in 2000.
Pure EDM.
Her new track... like very much. I don't care if EDM is bad for mainstream, im just glad that VH1 and MTV are giving pop a break and hip-hop a slap in the mouth.
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer Are you fuckin serious?? |
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| Originally posted by Subtle didnt Madonna want Prodigy to produce an album for her, but he rejected? correct me if im wrong  |
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| Originally posted by Dj Havoc True. But most artists in most genres of music have to "grab whats for the taking" if you understand what I mean in order to sell records. The top selling records in the billboard (hip hop/pop) were produced by the top guys out there for example the neptunes,kool & dre, lil john,the alchemist, just blaze,kanye west,dr.dre and many more. Do you guys remember Ricky Martin, he hasnt had a hit in a long time and then what does he do, he goes and purchases a hot beat/instrumental made by the new producer Scott Storch and joins up with rising star Amerie and Fat Joe and makes a single called "I don't care" and its been playing on the major radio and Tv stations. Madonna is only doing what is necessary to sell, she does have talent and made some real classic tracks in her early career so please don't criticize her for what shes doing, because most artists who want to sell records have followed a similar formula. The only difference is that to get a "beat"/"instrumental" made for you by a famous non-edm producer it will cost you a fortune. If you want to make it and have a long "staying power" as you mentioned Ishkur, the artist has to keep putting out good music with catchy songs with beats like Jay Z has for a long period of time and all his recent album sales speak for themself. Madonna is only doing what she knows she needs to do to $ell. |
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| Originally posted by Aiwendil Your ideas intrigue me. I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter. |
love the album...JLC is one of the most talented EDM producers. #11 is amazingand "jump". alot of ppl will shune apon the idea of EDM in the mainstream but i love it. bout time i can flip thru mtv and hear an edm track!
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| Originally posted by Ishkur Your use of Google is just as impressive as your return of Roddick's howitzer serves. Yes. The Bobby Orlando/Giorgio Moroder sound (the galloping synth) is hot again. I predicted it here about a year and a half ago. These are the giants upon whom's shoulders the current crop of electroclash and electrohouse producers are standing on. The 80s revival of the last few years is built on this aesthete....ie: loop an Italo Disco or Synthpop cut, call it a track. We are currently tracking them all down. Anyways, leading the charge is Stuart Price, aka Thin White Duke aka Jacques Lu Cont, aka Les Rythmes Digitales. Madonna hired him because the sound is trendy and cool, and she is good at identifying trendy and cool things in the club circuit and exploiting them. Like all true businessmen, she adheres to nothing but the almighty dollar. She has no musical morality whatsoever. If transylavanian accordian polka music was hot, she'd make an album of that too. When this sound is no longer cool in the next couple of years, she will dump it like a hot potato and move onto the next thing. This is what Madonna does. This is what she's always done. This is what she will continue to do. That doesn't mean the music is bad. Far from it, I quite like the song. But I never foster any delusions about what it is, and what it's meant to do. Tribute to disco? Please. Do you have any fucking idea how many house tracks sample disco cuts? You think Madonna thought this up all by herself? Or is she simply following the herd--and the money--in the post Mylo/Eric Prydz club scene? |
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| Originally posted by josh4 oh no you didn't just diss transylavanian accordian polka music... |
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| Originally posted by Cobalt |
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| Originally posted by Ishkur I've proved it. You have not. What's your excuse? |
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| Originally posted by josh4 oh no you didn't just diss transylavanian accordian polka music... |
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer Hung up samples Abba !!! Fuckin Abba !! |
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer Future Lovers samples Donna Summers !!! |
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer shall I continue to explain to you that every fucking track samples a disco track???? |
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer Price underground electro ?? |
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| Originally posted by Ishkur These are the giants upon whom's shoulders the current crop of electroclash and electrohouse producers are standing on. |
electroclash != electro
electrohouse != electro
I have actually bemoan the use of those names, and have written voraciously against their use for years, because they have no relation, no bearing, and no real influence or connection with the former....and warned that the misapplication of best laid intentions would eventually lead to genre confusion.
I hate it when I'm right.
I also hate explaining myself to those who just plainly illustrated how I'm right.
I wasn't arguing with you or anything. I'm just pointing out where the guy got the electro part from.
EDIT: Although, going back slightly, I don't see how either of those genres has anything to do with 70s disco sampling.
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| Originally posted by Ishkur Do you even know what electro is? |
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer maybe I should use your EDM guide for reference than ?? STFU you don't know what your on. |
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J EDIT: Although, going back slightly, I don't see how either of those genres has anything to do with 70s disco sampling. |
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| Originally posted by Ishkur HOUSE MUSIC SAMPLES DISCO!!! And has been doing so--quite voraciously--since at least 1995. |
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| Originally posted by Aiwendil That they're house music and house music samples disco? |
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I thought it was the Daft Punk school of house that sampled disco? I'm not an expert on electroclash by any means, but I thought it was a whole different ballpark to LRD/Mylo/etc. |
Yes I fucking know who Tod Terry is. Only thing is that the style of house he made isn't popular any more, is it? So it has fuck all to do with modern trends.
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I wasn't arguing with you or anything. I'm just pointing out where the guy got the electro part from. |
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J EDIT: Although, going back slightly, I don't see how either of those genres has anything to do with 70s disco sampling. |
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| Originally posted by Roger Federer sampling disco beats began much ealier than you beleive |
Roger, I see you flapping, but you don't really back up a hell of a lot of what you say. And then you come forth like a hurricane, namedropping like it silences all detractors. I'm sure the size of your electronic music knowledge penis is fucking huge and you got a big raging hard-on right now, but I don't have time to stick around and compare and contrast. You got a point to make, make it. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
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