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Posted by Tholius on Nov-09-2005 12:04:

Yeah that's one of the sets that got me into trance aswell...

Space Manouevres - Stage One

HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT

Posted by bec on Nov-09-2005 13:34:

after swearing at megaupload (too many connection from my ip address apparently) I discover some kind soul has already filed this set in my music folder! bless him

Posted by muli on Nov-10-2005 04:38:

quote:
Originally posted by hugoboss
Or John '00' Fleming - White Label Republic

yea that's what i meant

O M F G!! I'M ReAcHiNG! 4 T3h LaZOrz!!!1 NoW!1

Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Nov-10-2005 04:58:

quote:
Mara - One is available on djdownload.com. Considerably cheaper than vinyl

bugger that vinyl all the way, it is so much sweeter finally getting it after chasing it for ages and looking everywhere to get it than simply downloading it and putting it on cd. although you are correct on the cost issue, probably explains a few money issues i have

Posted by name_withheld on Nov-10-2005 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Teflon_Teapot
bugger that vinyl all the way, it is so much sweeter finally getting it after chasing it for ages and looking everywhere to get it than simply downloading it and putting it on cd. although you are correct on the cost issue, probably explains a few money issues i have

Yeah, I first started out with vinyl and just couldn't afford it - sold a fair bit of stuff I wasn't playing and used the funds to buy Serato. Now that's some awesome stuff - best of both worlds (sort of) It does take away that very satisfying 'finally found it' feeling though.

Posted by xtractorfan on Nov-10-2005 08:28:

NICE ONE BRUVVA!

Posted by name_withheld on Nov-10-2005 12:30:

Yeah its pretty good - the other thing is that I've become much more selective in the tunes I'm buying since I started using it. I used to buy a fair whack of stuff that was reasonable, but not brilliant because it can be difficult to get it once the initial release is all gone. I reckon if you were to couple Serato with Ableton as a production/remix/re-edit tool (not for playing out) you'd have the basis of a pretty formidable system. All in a 15" powerbook! I did actually play with a demo of Ableton, but I'm not real sure I'd use it for DJing - I really love the way vinyl handles....maybe if you could rewire Serato to Ableton......

Posted by **Xenon** on Nov-10-2005 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Teflon_Teapot
I am in the process of buying old school trance from ebay. Which is probably not a good idea considering how much money I will spend but oh well.

Hey Soups I will keep a lookout for Jon Vesta - Gull & Mara - One (Hamel's Implant Remix) in my searching, and if I find them I will let you know.

Haha had 4 copies of Gull once. Gave one to Cam, one's almost unplayable after a bit too much use and the other two sit here in pristine condition.
One of my most favourite tracks ever.

Have the whole set on vinyl except for Last Trip To Paradise, came close to paying US$160 for it but chickened out (it's been on eBay twice in the last year and a half). Finished off my Tranceport collection a month ago by finally getting Dream Traveler - Time. <3 Oakey.
(But love sure doesn't come cheap.)

Posted by Light The Fuse on Nov-10-2005 14:30:

finally got around to having a proper listen to this - first time in a while.....mixing is rofl but it just doesnt seem to matter for some reason

<3 Paul Oakenfold

and <3 tilts mix of stage one

Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Nov-11-2005 07:26:

quote:
finally got around to having a proper listen to this - first time in a while.....mixing is rofl but it just doesnt seem to matter for some reason

its oakey, it just shows that a great performance is not all about the mixing of one track into another perfectly, but song selection, timing, atmosphere and build up.

Posted by Philby on Nov-12-2005 14:17:

whats wrong with the mixing???
(this is an honest question)

Posted by A.J. on Nov-12-2005 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
whats wrong with the mixing???
(this is an honest question)

Are you serious?

* Dodgy Beatmatching
* Quick, messy transitions
* poor phrasing

It's just generally pretty loose and shoddy all round

Posted by Philby on Nov-12-2005 14:49:

well i thought it was pretty good....
i cant hear any bad beat matching in the set, none that i can remember though (but i have listened to it all the way through recently)

Posted by xtractorfan on Nov-13-2005 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
whats wrong with the mixing???
(this is an honest question)

I was wondering the same thing... on which transitions does it get dodgy? Im honestly curious as well.

Posted by Light The Fuse on Nov-13-2005 05:21:

there are a fair few dodgey mixes in there. from the very first mix - quite a few of them have key clashes, the equing is quite a bit off and they slightly go in and out of time

personally tho im not the fussiest guy when it comes to perfect mixing - its just like the teapot said

Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Nov-13-2005 06:58:

quote:
personally tho im not the fussiest guy when it comes to perfect mixing - its just like the teapot said

damn straight, it is interesting though that the man who is in the guiness book of records as the greatest dj of all time has sets were he does not mix perfectly and the transitions are not perfect. *scratches chin for a moment* very intesting indeed.

Posted by name_withheld on Nov-13-2005 07:16:

Yeah it does seem a bit funny - the bass goes in and out of phase a lot in some mixes while at other times it seems as though there is just too much happening, cymbals and stuff all over the place. All the same I still rate it - it has this awesome party vibe to it and the track selection is pretty good. Oakey always seemed to put more emphasis on track selection rather than technical ability I think...

Posted by Philby on Nov-13-2005 11:31:

i thought the first mix from 'not over yet' into 'stage one' was alright....i dont know much about keys and stuff but if the beats arent all over the place then its pretty much a good mix for me, and i dont think this set fails that requirement

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-13-2005 23:58:

*sighs*
so am i like the only person on auTA that doesnt rate this set?
a couple ok tunes on there. but was pretty meh for me. im always left out

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
i thought the first mix from 'not over yet' into 'stage one' was alright....i dont know much about keys and stuff but if the beats arent all over the place then its pretty much a good mix for me,

youre getting/got tables soon yeah philby? well all those lil errors will soon start jumping out at you and piss you off id never even heard a trainwreck til i started practicing, haha.

Posted by 00soups00 on Nov-14-2005 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
i thought the first mix from 'not over yet' into 'stage one' was alright....i dont know much about keys and stuff but if the beats arent all over the place then its pretty much a good mix for me, and i dont think this set fails that requirement

the key mixing is pretty good as far as i can tell, may need to analyse it. thats why it works... (see nyquist thereom's chapter in Oxford Concise Dictionary under K: for Keymixing )

i never noticed dodgy mixing, maybe because of the quality of tunes, but i will ANALyse it.. and then pick it apart, like many others seem to have done here

Posted by eRRaTiK on Nov-14-2005 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
i will ANAL it..

yes, yes you will

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-14-2005 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
the key mixing is pretty good as far as i can tell, may need to analyse it. thats why it works... (see nyquist thereom\\'s chapter in Oxford Concise Dictionary under K: for Keymixing )

keymixing is the only way to go. im with nyquist on this one.

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
i never noticed dodgy mixing, maybe because of the quality of tunes, but i will ANALyse it.. and then pick it apart, like many others seem to have done here

it depends how you listen to it. if youre playing it thru headphones & not doing anything else (like work) then youre bound to hear the mistakes. doesnt mean youre picking it apart soupy. dry those eyes honey.

Posted by xtractorfan on Nov-14-2005 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
the key mixing is pretty good as far as i can tell, may need to analyse it. thats why it works... (see nyquist thereom's chapter in Oxford Concise Dictionary under K: for Keymixing )

i never noticed dodgy mixing, maybe because of the quality of tunes, but i will ANALyse it.. and then pick it apart, like many others seem to have done here

Yeah shit i think some people pick mixing apart at the seems so much that it must take a lot of the enjoyment out of actually listening to music. If having a better knowledge of beatmatching and keymatching technique would make me over analyse mixing like that in oakeys set then im happy to be ignorant.

Posted by 00soups00 on Nov-14-2005 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by xtractorfan
Yeah shit i think some people pick mixing apart at the seems so much that it must take a lot of the enjoyment out of actually listening to music. If having a better knowledge of beatmatching and keymatching technique would make me over analyse mixing like that in oakeys set then im happy to be ignorant.

the art of education is knowing the appropriate times to use it!!!!

i may be a black belt, but i choose not to beat the shit out of all the assholes here with my massive gunz..

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Nov-14-2005 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by xtractorfan
Yeah shit i think some people pick mixing apart at the seems so much that it must take a lot of the enjoyment out of actually listening to music. If having a better knowledge of beatmatching and keymatching technique would make me over analyse mixing like that in oakeys set then im happy to be ignorant.

*cough* bollocks.

who says anyone is analysing anything? you hear it or you dont. end of story. ill put up with god-awful mixing a long as the tunes are good (thats what the fast-forward key is for).

its got nothing to do with \"knowledge\". again, you hear it or you dont. whether youre listening for it or not.

the end.

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