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Posted by TOR on Nov-29-2005 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by r5a
If any of the mods see a problem this, let me know and I'll take it down.


i for one do not


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 21:26:

I concur!


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 21:42:

hahahhhoh lord. I've never heard anything like that. I mean. I can't stand it. But it just kinda lures you in because your in awe or scared. or digusted. but more shocked. It's a metal clanking, nose bleeding nightmare. Where is the bass? and .. hearing that live..? It's paranoia!

Here's two tunes I can recommend:

Enduser - Things To Do In the Queen City
Enduser - Dul M Remix


Posted by Aiwendil on Nov-29-2005 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Enduser - Things To Do In the Queen City
Enduser - Dul M Remix


I second that one. But those are more Drill 'N Bass than Drum 'N Bass. And Dul M Remix is by Line 47...


Posted by s3nate on Nov-29-2005 23:25:

Check out

Omni Trio
Pendulum
Concord Dawn
Ill.Skillz
High Contrast
Black Sun Empire
Counterstrike
John B
Muffler
Raiden
di.fm's dnb channel


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-30-2005 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
So the "post-techstep" is the jazz element that Reece added? Because the majority of ALL the DnB I've listened to reminded me of jazz. How could
the have been so influential?


Well, I guess it's safe to say that Alex has influenced a ton of today's producers, since they were all listening to the old Metalheadz records at home at the time Reece was active. And while their take on drum n bass might be completely different (neurofunk, jump up, techstep), you can still hear his influences on the records coming out today.

Some examples: that "buzzing" bass sound (Concord Dawn - Morning Light has it for instance) that so many drum n bass records use nowadays is very often referred to as the Reece-bass, even though he got the idea for it from an old house record by The Reese Project, which consists of Kevin Saunderson among others. There is also the Reece-break, which is used equally often (Check Dom & Roland - Imagination and Die - Clear Skyz), and then there's the sampling of real instruments etc. etc.

Reece's influence is still largely present, even if jazzstep is gone by now.


Posted by Aiwendil on Nov-30-2005 00:34:

Perhaps this Alex Reece guy fused Jazz and DnB, but he didn't introduce African Syncopation into either. I still say it's because of Jazz and DnB's common stylistic origins. Something like this...

DnB/Jungle >> Reggae >> African Carribbean Music/Jazz >> African Cultural Music

>> = influenced by


Sure Jungle was influenced by other music like Hardcore Breakbeat, but that's not where the syncopation comes from.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-30-2005 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Aiwendil
Perhaps this Alex Reece guy fused Jazz and DnB, but he didn't introduce African Syncopation into either. I still say it's because of Jazz and DnB's common stylistic origins. Something like this...

DnB/Jungle >> Reggae >> African Carribbean Music/Jazz >> African Cultural Music

>> = influenced by


Sure Jungle was influenced by other music like Hardcore Breakbeat, but that's not where the syncopation comes from.


Of course, Reece didn't think of the syncopation on his own, so I'm sure those genres influenced him plenty. However, he was one of the first, if not the first, to actually put jazz concepts such as its rhythms and its instruments into practice as far as drum n bass is concerned. And since his records had such an impact, I'd say that it is obvious why the syncopation of today's drum n bass reminds people of jazz, namely because Alex introduced it to drum n bass early on.

That being said, it's probably not wise to understimate the ragga massive either, who probably told Alex to go fuck himself when he started having beef with Goldie (Alex is white).


Posted by {b.s.e.} on Nov-30-2005 08:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Kakoroto
Of the DnB that I do listen to its usually one of these

Rawthang
Black Sun Empire
Dieselboy


plus one for the BSE

Panacea, Kirby, Needle Sharing, Renegade, Exile, Technical Itch, The Cartel, Capoeria...


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-30-2005 09:10:

I like distorted minds.. he/they wtvr are pretty dope.


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