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Posted by charmscars on Jan-09-2006 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by thesauce23
Wow such harsh words. "..we wont have to deal with you too."?? No one asked to deal with anything. I just posted what my night was like buddy. Its not that serious. I mean honestly, I understand ur opinion is ur opinion, but if its nothing nice, just keep it to yourself, know what I mean. I think this was a pretty good thread cuz everyone had something to say, but saying something harsh like that? come on now. thats a joke.


that WAS a bit harsh, but he has a point, in that if it seems tough to go to party w/o drugs, then there's something amiss there.

ETA: I know b/c I've been there, it took having a really really bad trip, as in the worst night of my life, (i know what it feels like to be a paranoid schizophrenic after that night, I've never experienced fear like that in my life)


Posted by chinamon on Jan-09-2006 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by thesauce23
Wow such harsh words. "..we wont have to deal with you too."?? No one asked to deal with anything. I just posted what my night was like buddy. Its not that serious. I mean honestly, I understand ur opinion is ur opinion, but if its nothing nice, just keep it to yourself, know what I mean. I think this was a pretty good thread cuz everyone had something to say, but saying something harsh like that? come on now. thats a joke.


i apologize for being a little on the rough side but it seems that you get my point. thats all that matters. cheers!

on a side note, i agree that certain drugs are a lot of fun and everyone has their choice of drug but if it was that hard to party without chems for one weekend then you might really want to consider "detox" for a few weeks and let your brain recover a little bit before you pump more shit into it and forcing it to produce/release mass amounts of seratonin and dopamine. everything on and in your body needs to fully heal before you can use it to its full potential.


Posted by allym on Jan-09-2006 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
if it is that hard for you to go out and have a good time without chemical assistance then you have a drug problem.

seek help.

that also goes for people that cant go out without having a few drinks and feeling tipsy at the very least.

i mean, does your life really suck so bad that you are that desperate for an escape? if it is then i would suggest suicide. that way you solve your own problem and we dont have to deal with you too. have a great day!


CHINAMON - such harsh words.. and judgement.. not like you...

Thats a terrible thing to say..

still luv ya.. but.. friend.. be nice to fellow friends


Posted by charmscars on Jan-09-2006 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i apologize for being a little on the rough side but it seems that you get my point. thats all that matters. cheers!

on a side note, i agree that certain drugs are a lot of fun and everyone has their choice of drug but if it was that hard to party without chems for one weekend then you might really want to consider "detox" for a few weeks and let your brain recover a little bit before you pump more shit into it and forcing it to produce/release mass amounts of seratonin and dopamine. everything on and in your body needs to fully heal before you can use it to its full potential.


I'd say about 6 mos, a few weeks isn't going to do much.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-09-2006 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by charmscars
that WAS a bit harsh, but he has a point, in that if it seems tough to go to party w/o drugs, then there's something amiss there.


Yea but he pigeonholes everyone from the sad drug addicts, to the people enjoying having a few drinks while socializing; as if anyone that isn't a perfect "socialwhore" and needs that 2-3 drinks to become a little more chatty should go kill himself too.


Posted by chinamon on Jan-09-2006 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by allym
CHINAMON - such harsh words.. and judgement.. not like you...

Thats a terrible thing to say..

still luv ya.. but.. friend.. be nice to fellow friends


ally babe!
ummm... ya...
wont be seeing you for a while. the next time i go to a club will be ultra spin and hopefully i will see you there! you probably will be in the gallery. woot woot


Posted by chinamon on Jan-09-2006 02:33:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Yea but he pigeonholes everyone from the sad drug addicts, to the people enjoying having a few drinks while socializing; as if anyone that isn't a perfect "socialwhore" and needs that 2-3 drinks to become a little more chatty should go kill himself too.


i never said that i was perfect but it is possible for my to stay completely sober while at a party (no drugs, no alcohol). i still had a good time and sure didnt feel the same way that thesauce23 felt at the guv this past weekend.
the problem here is that most people *think* they can go one night at a club/party totally sober but really cannot. they would go insane watching others drink or eat pills or bump k or blast rails or whatever.
meh.. whatever.. to each their own.


Posted by neuromancer on Jan-09-2006 02:37:

quote:
Originally posted by tonybologna
Well I think there is some danger to E regarding the way it affects memory. I have seen so many studies that point to memory loss and brain damage similar to Alzheimer's patients. From what I have gathered, you need at least a month between each use for maximum recovery of the brain.
Nevertheless, many of my friends who used (a lot) when it was more popular in the states back in 2000-2001 are doing just fine now (about three years after last use).


nah, my memory is just fine.

- honey, who was zpinning lazt nigth at that plaze?


Posted by allym on Jan-09-2006 02:39:

Fulkin right I will be in the Gallery..

Dekoze! George Shaker!.. and Miss I rock the Gallery everytime I am on the decks - SYNDEY BLU!... you havent heard her unless youve heard it there!

But thats the thing about the entertainment complex - KNOWN AS THE GUV.. you can be everywhere!
Lov it..

Study hard friend.. and we'll see you .. reading week I guess..

But whoever will take such pretty pictures in your abscene..hmmm


Posted by chinamon on Jan-09-2006 02:47:

quote:
Originally posted by neuromancer
nah, my memory is just fine.



drugs affect everyone in a different manner.
that goes for illegal drugs as well as the legal ones.
same goes for alcohol. ie. not everyone gets a hangover.


Posted by chinamon on Jan-09-2006 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by allym
Fulkin right I will be in the Gallery..

Dekoze! George Shaker!.. and Miss I rock the Gallery everytime I am on the decks - SYNDEY BLU!... you havent heard her unless youve heard it there!

But thats the thing about the entertainment complex - KNOWN AS THE GUV.. you can be everywhere!
Lov it..

Study hard friend.. and we'll see you .. reading week I guess..

But whoever will take such pretty pictures in your abscene..hmmm


you can bet your ass that i'll be at hotel thursday, footwork friday, and the drink saturday during reading week. gotta support my friends.

as for the pictures, theres always shaya at the guv. for hotel there is duro (weakgame and tnc) and andre (nli). but for footwork there was only me. footwork deserves a lot more exposure. there is a great group of people behind footwork and it is such a great venue with amazing talent.


Posted by geroin on Jan-09-2006 02:55:

i've been going to trance/house events for the past 4years
i havent done any kind of drugs once and i dont need to
if you do need to then you've got issues and you dont like the music, you like the drug
also i can dance and have fun longer than any drug user there is, for example last night at guv came at 11 left at like 7am, danced for like 5 hours straiught then took a break then danced some more.
you might think its ok now, look at yourself in 15-20 years.


Posted by chinamon on Jan-09-2006 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
if you do need to then you've got issues and you dont like the music, you like the drug


i wouldnt say that.
i know that you can party sober but not everyone is capable of doing that. it also doesnt mean that they do it for the drug rather than the music.
i love EDM. its as simple as that. i listen to it all day and all night, whether i am at home or driving and those are the times that i am sober. i have been going to EDM clubs since i was 16 (which was.... 1994/1995). it is all that i listen to. the drugs just enhances the way the music sounds and the way it makes you feel. with mdma, it enhances whatever feeling you are experiencing at that particular moment. if you are happy then you are happy x 100. if you are sad then you are sad x 100. being in a room with music that you enjoy and people that you feel comfortable with almost guarantees a good time. its just not healthy to be so dependant on drugs to enjoy yourself.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-09-2006 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
i've been going to trance/house events for the past 4years
i havent done any kind of drugs once and i dont need to
if you do need to then you've got issues and you dont like the music, you like the drug
also i can dance and have fun longer than any drug user there is, for example last night at guv came at 11 left at like 7am, danced for like 5 hours straiught then took a break then danced some more.
you might think its ok now, look at yourself in 15-20 years.


While I respect your choice to say no; you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the use of drugs themselves. I'm pretty sure a drug user can stay longer in a club than 11-7am. And just because they like the drugs doesn't mean they DON'T like the music.


Posted by charmscars on Jan-09-2006 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i wouldnt say that.
i know that you can party sober but not everyone is capable of doing that. it also doesnt mean that they do it for the drug rather than the music.
i love EDM. its as simple as that. i listen to it all day and all night, whether i am at home or driving and those are the times that i am sober. it is all that i listen to. the drugs just enhances the way the music sounds and the way it makes you feel. with mdma, it enhances whatever feeling you are experiencing at that particular moment. if you are happy then you are happy x 100. if you are sad then you are sad x 100. being in a room with music that you enjoy and people that you feel comfortable with almost guarantees a good time.



i don't know if he means if do do drugs you don't like the music, or if he means if you HAVE to do drugs to enjoy a night out than you don't like the music. B/c if it's the latter, i think he's right.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-09-2006 03:09:

I personally don't even care if people need the drugs in order to have a good time at afterhours events. It's the dependency in general and the frequency of usage that matters.

Some people (generally the most addicted) combine afterhours and drugs into one idea. So instead of doing drugs every week, they're just partying every week, and instead of detox, they're just "taking a break from partying".

If you go out once every 3 months and pop a pill each time, I really don't think it's going to have any negative effect. However, if you're popping a pill (or more) every week, no matter what the circumstances are, and can't imagine going more than a week without one, you've got a psychological dependency; and it DOES influence your behaviour, whether or not you're aware of it.

As I said before - most things are good in moderation, most things are bad in excess.


Posted by Ace_of_Spades on Jan-09-2006 03:17:

Once i thought i am addicted to E cause i was doing it atleast once in 2 weeks since summer,but now i am sober for 5 weeks and not planning to pop for a while and i also have no problems in my life. NO memory lost no nothing.


so my recommandation do what feels right to do! like who cares life's so short!


Posted by DigitalMP on Jan-09-2006 03:21:

wow...you must *really* love the music if you have trouble being sober when you're out clubbin!

imagine if you love your future life partner this much...


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-09-2006 03:23:

Okay, you yourself will never be able to personally judge the extent of the damage to your memory due to E. You will never be able to distinguish not remembering something just because sometimes everybody forgets, and not remembering something because of E. Stop saying your memory is fine - you don't know that.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Jan-09-2006 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
blast rails


I swear I have never heard of this............


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Jan-09-2006 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Okay, you yourself will never be able to personally judge the extent of the damage to your memory due to E. You will never be able to distinguish not remembering something just because sometimes everybody forgets, and not remembering something because of E. Stop saying your memory is fine - you don't know that.


my memory is just fine


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Jan-09-2006 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Okay, you yourself will never be able to personally judge the extent of the damage to your memory due to E. You will never be able to distinguish not remembering something just because sometimes everybody forgets, and not remembering something because of E. Stop saying your memory is fine - you don't know that.


my memory is just fine !


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Jan-09-2006 03:58:

lol


Posted by DigitalMP on Jan-09-2006 03:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
lol


hahahhaa classic


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jan-09-2006 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I swear I have never heard of this............



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