Toronto Island whiners get their way

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Posted by all-nite-freak on Jan-11-2006 06:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
True, but they'll still lose significant profits from the people who like to drink inside the club, and they'll have to factor in those lost profits by increasing ticket prices, and that WILL reduce the attendance.

i am just saying a shot a making it work would be worth it, especially if they have good enough booking power to keep things interesting for the people.Drinking before and partying after can still be fun.

Posted by Sean Cassidy on Jan-11-2006 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Dude, all I'm saying is that it's not the end of the world. Those Dj's will be back; whether it's the Docks that brings them in or not, they'll be back. There's other very suitable clubs in this city for Danny Tenaglia and Tiesto, such as Boa, Sonic, This Is London, and Kool Haus/Guvernment.

Of course I'm fully aware of Danny T's disliking for Guv (don't blame him, either) so I guess that leaves 2 or 3 other clubs for him.

This Is London - I agree - beautiful venue......

I liked Docks mostly for the lack of attitude with staff - organization and space - plus the patio was WIKKID.

Tiesto June 2003/Dec 2004 amazing at Docks.

also the...

Summer Magic parties......DJ Sneak parties....Re-Connected..and countless others.

It is shitty that if it is forced closed over the Islanders that it will effect our reputation as a mecca for Electronic music parties in North America....

the laws in the US have forced these parties farther underground and they are not nearly as frequent and with such numbers....

Now I am missing the Automotive building parties........1997 10,000 plus those were GOOD TIMES!

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-11-2006 06:30:

IMO...

...Danny T's return to 270 Spadina is inevitable.

Posted by Adamo on Jan-11-2006 06:32:

stuff like this makes me want to set the islander's houses on fire so they have nowhere to live...and finally can move to a normal neighbourhood and bitch about people mowing their lawn after 6pm or some shit

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-11-2006 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Adamo
stuff like this makes me want to set the islander's houses on fire so they have nowhere to live...and finally can move to a normal neighbourhood and bitch about people mowing their lawn after 6pm or some shit

...in other news after constant bitching and moaning from a small GTA-based community, mowing your lawn after 6PM is now banned.

Posted by Billche on Jan-11-2006 06:39:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
...in other news after constant bitching and moaning from a small GTA-based community, mowing your lawn after 6PM is now banned.

*busts out the snowblower

Posted by MarkT on Jan-11-2006 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robben
no matter what we as a peopel do, we can't win because we're not in the group that politicians want to appease.

So we can protest all we want, but what's the use if it's falling on deaf ears?

DID anyone actually protest?

Posted by magikb on Jan-11-2006 07:18:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
as much as the ruling sucks no alcohol does not mean the club will close.Alcohol free afterhours work here, why not in Toronto?

I usually only drink water at events cuz I don't really drink alcohol anyways so not a big deal to me..
I think what Montreal has going is great and all those clubs still manage to make money and stay open as well without serving alcohol

But I may see you sooner than you think Jay

Posted by The Highroller on Jan-11-2006 14:31:

Wow, this is bullshit. I can't believe this is happening. I had so many fun times at that place, and now the stupid Islanders are winning.

What can be done about this? I'm willing to put some time into this.

Posted by jon jon on Jan-11-2006 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
I'm willing to put some time into this.

LMAO

Posted by Truepioneer on Jan-11-2006 15:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
toronto has become americanized in so many ways in the last 5 years, from music to crime to the way politicians think.

And we have socialists in power here, not so called evil right wingers.

I would say that Canadian values and American values have never clashed as much as they do now in years! With the exception of the gun crime. Yes, we are still too Americanized in my opinion.

I do tip my hat to Paul Martin for taking a very good stand against Bush about the soft-wood lumber thing.

Remember municipal politicains, in Canada, really don't have the powers to make many changes like other mayors around the world do

Toronto has alway's been traditionally and historically a conservative, uptight, anal city!

This liquor license removal, from The Docks is no suprise to me.

Maybe it's time to restart I-Dance for those who remember.

Just read any of Earnest Hemmingways writings on Toronto. Alot of what he said still remains true today.

Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-11-2006 15:35:

I hope that everyone pissed off never supports a ban of convenience ever again such as smoking and pitbulls etc...

this was done by people who have absolutely no interest in nightclubs just as some of you have no interest in dog ownership or smoking.

If we allow this kind of thinking to pervade, it will continue to come back and bite us in the ass. This is what i talk about when i mention "the big picture" in all my arguements.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-11-2006 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
...Danny T's return to 270 Spadina is inevitable.

He has stated that it was one of his favourite rooms EVER to play in. Due to problems with previous management/owners, he refused to come back. But as we all know, things have changed at 270 (now Sonic), with new ownership (including Project Orange who has brought Danny in the past to the Docks). So.... its definately a possiblility.

p.s. - Danny T @ the Guv = not a chance in hell.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-11-2006 15:38:

pps. - it would be a shame if our city lost The Docks.....

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-11-2006 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by naesean3
and that was alot to do with soundsystem and other factors.....

The cover charge was $50 in advance, and it had nothing to do with the soundsystem. The two factors were....

a.) it was Canada Day (bigger cover for parties on holidays)
b.) it was Danny T. (he dont come cheap)

quote:
Originally posted by naesean3
I am aware of him playing Boa - but I have also seen that the hype over the new space is not near what it had been previously

I think after New Years, this statement is more false than the teeth in grandpappy's mouth.

Posted by Sasha on Jan-11-2006 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
a.) it was Canada Day (bigger cover for parties on holidays)

it wasnt

Posted by DJOS2 on Jan-11-2006 15:48:

OK folks - I know you all love rumours but I want to give the straight goods here. Over the past year the Docks has been involved in hearings with regard to its license. While those hearings have now concluded and a recomendation has been made, its only a recomendation. There is a whole legal and appeal process ahead that could take months, if not years to complete. During this time, The Docks is allowed to operate as normal. That means it HAS NOT LOST ITS LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOL and may never lose it - its just one battle in a long war.

As you know, we rent the facility for a number of our Destiny events so I do have a conduit for the straight facts and these are them.

OS

Posted by muzzybear on Jan-11-2006 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Truepioneer

Maybe it's time to restart I-Dance for those who remember.

Just read any of Earnest Hemmingways writings on Toronto. Alot of what he said still remains true today.

haha, I-Dance... I met Olivia Chow there a few years ago and she was really sullen. But she was a positive ball of energy at my door this past weekend, and I reminder her of meeting her at I-Dance and mentioned she still keeps in touch with William Chang (is that his name... can't remember).

Which of Hemmingway's writings are you referring to? I would love to pick them up or read them online! I'm a big reader.

Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-11-2006 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJOS2
OK folks - I know you all love rumours but I want to give the straight goods here. Over the past year the Docks has been involved in hearings with regard to its license. While those hearings have now concluded and a recomendation has been made, its only a recomendation. There is a whole legal and appeal process ahead that could take months, if not years to complete. During this time, The Docks is allowed to operate as normal. That means it HAS NOT LOST ITS LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOL and may never lose it - its just one battle in a long war.

As you know, we rent the facility for a number of our Destiny events so I do have a conduit for the straight facts and these are them.

OS

Good! Well now you know that everyone is on your side! I say we fight these bastards tooth and nail and that i go and slap my sources upside the head.

LOL

How would they feel about forming a clubbing lobby group of both club owners and patrons? Its time to put the squeeze the other way.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-11-2006 15:57:

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
it wasnt

actually, it was.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=184539

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jan-11-2006 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by niveole
it wasnt

errr...yea it was

edit:

what he said ^^^

but anyways, just how many people reside on Toronto Island? I'm pretty sure if we're in larger numbers then we'd have the advantage...

Posted by Sasha on Jan-11-2006 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
actually, it was.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=184539

My bad,
i thought u were talking about last year, not 2004.

please forgive me!

Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-11-2006 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
errr...yea it was

edit:

what he said ^^^

but anyways, just how many people reside on Toronto Island? I'm pretty sure if we're in larger numbers then we'd have the advantage...

not many

Posted by Matt on Jan-11-2006 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by DJOS2
OK folks - I know you all love rumours but I want to give the straight goods here. Over the past year the Docks has been involved in hearings with regard to its license. While those hearings have now concluded and a recomendation has been made, its only a recomendation. There is a whole legal and appeal process ahead that could take months, if not years to complete. During this time, The Docks is allowed to operate as normal. That means it HAS NOT LOST ITS LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOL and may never lose it - its just one battle in a long war.

As you know, we rent the facility for a number of our Destiny events so I do have a conduit for the straight facts and these are them.

OS

thread closed due to "sensationalism of unconfirmed fact"

Posted by techead on Jan-11-2006 19:53:

Just to confirm what os2 said there is no decision as of yet and it could take weeks or years

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