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Posted by Kapedano on Jan-17-2006 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
Therefore even though in theory we are on the same page, EU or the UN would never do anything.


Well, they dont have much power, they can hardly do anything, and with that said, the U.S, comes like some people call "the world police" and takes action. If it wasnt for the U.S, this world would have been blown up, or ruled dictators with a communist or facist view. The UN never does anything. They UN is a shitty organization that is just there and has a name.


Posted by Purple on Jan-17-2006 07:57:

Thread starter kindly edit my Vote from 'Do whatever the world/EU says.' to 'Write Iran a very very mean letter.' I voted it wrong by mistake.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-17-2006 09:15:

Send the letter to Iran and also tell the U.S kindly to go fuck itself.


Posted by Yoepus on Jan-17-2006 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Send the letter to Iran and also tell the U.S kindly to go fuck itself.


That's not an option!

I'd advise reading comprehension practice


Posted by occrider on Jan-17-2006 16:59:

Exactly how mean would this letter be? I think it should be pretty mean, but we don't want to hurt their feelings or anything.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-17-2006 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Exactly how mean would this letter be? I think it should be pretty mean, but we don't want to hurt their feelings or anything.


It would probably look a lot like...


Posted by Purple on Jan-22-2006 01:23:

Let me tell you all people that 'Write Iran a very, very mean letter!' has won this Poll, as it has got 9 votes. My vote has not been rectified.


Posted by skot_e on Jan-22-2006 01:39:

Dear Iran,

We not your friends anymore. Don't ask us to play with you at lunch time because we wont!

The world
(except Syria)


Posted by Lepanto on Jan-22-2006 05:15:

quote:
Originally posted by skot_e
Dear Iran,

We not your friends anymore. Don't ask us to play with you at lunch time because we wont!

The world
(except Syria)


and Russia and China...

A funnier letter would be the talks between Russia and the Ukraine when Ukraine was threatening Russia with war over that hydro electric plant or whatever a few years ago.


Posted by Kapedano on Jan-22-2006 05:22:

We should write them a letter but in the letter it should state:

Dear Iran,

We are nuking your ass off.

Love,
George W. Bush


I cant believe how stupid most people are puttin the letter as an option, seriously. I mean, if they havent listened to us all this time, what difference will the letter make?


Posted by sensorium on Jan-22-2006 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
Dear Iran,

We are nuking your ass off.

Love,
George W. Bush


I don't think Bush writes that good. Where are the mistakes?


Posted by Yoepus on Jan-22-2006 07:22:

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
I cant believe how stupid most people are puttin the letter as an option, seriously. I mean, if they havent listened to us all this time, what difference will the letter make?


Haven't you been following this thread?!?

We aren't writing them just any old letter, no!

We are writing them a very, very mean letter!

And mean letters always work


Posted by TranceGiant on Jan-22-2006 13:20:

don't send teh lettar.....


Actualy, I think a coup from the inside (Ahmadinejad is not very popular at all, not even amongst the conservative mullahs who despise his irrational behavior) is far more likely than a military strike form the US and or Israel in the near future.


Posted by Purple on Jan-22-2006 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
don't send teh lettar.....


Actualy, I think a coup from the inside (Ahmadinejad is not very popular at all, not even amongst the conservative mullahs who despise his irrational behavior) is far more likely than a military strike form the US and or Israel in the near future.


I dont want to repeat everything again from start, but you see about the coup and Iranians hating Ahmadinejad is what CNN tells you. Its a propaganda war, in reality Iranianans love him and he has full support of Hardliners as he himself is one of them.

You can get further information on this page:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15&pagenumber=3

quote:
Every vote for me, will be a bullet in the heart of USA.


Thats what Ahmadinejad said during his elections campaign and he won with 'majority'.


Posted by Lepanto on Jan-22-2006 18:31:

So Iranians want war. You moron you're advocating a full military strike with no concern for civilians if you say they are fully behind him...AND ALL OF THEM TO BOOT..when that's clearly not a fact. What gobbledegook you grmuble. Wow.


Posted by Kapedano on Jan-22-2006 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
I don't think Bush writes that good. Where are the mistakes?


He used Microsoft Word and the spelling check feature on it .


Posted by Renegade on Jan-22-2006 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
So its the USA's fault that Iran and North Korea are developign WMD?


Well, in a way, yes.

In 2002 Bush named Iran as a member of the "axis of evil". In the years since then, Iran has had the benefit of being able to sit back and observe how the US has treated the other two nations that it considered to be part of this "axis". Iraq, which didn't have WMDs, got the ever-loving shit kicked out of it. North Korea, which does have WMDs (supposedly, at least) has got to sit around a table for the past two years with the biggest nations in the world and dictate terms to them. Based on the Bush administration's duplicity in dealing with "axis of evil" states in these cases, can you really blame Iran for thinking that building a nuclear bomb is the best way to protect itself from a fate like Iraq's and to gain itself a strong international bargaining chip in the process?

And I think that this is what's most important to understand about Iran's rationale: they aren't aiming to develop nuclear weapons for aggressive purposes, but rather for defensive ones. I've seen no evidence - current or historical - to suggest that Iran is a militarily aggressive state, with regards to either the expansion of its territories or ideology (after all, the US has done enough to ensure the rise of Shia Islam in the region as it is). In this case, much of the hyperbole in this thread about the dangers of Iran developing nuclear bombs is largely unfounded. None of the current nuclear states developed nuclear weapons for aggressive purposes and I'm not sure why we should immediately suspect that Iran's aims would be any more malevolent, or any more of a threat to global security.

Having said that, I do disagree strongly with any state - let alone an unstable, theocratic one like Iran - being allowed to develop a nuclear weapons program. There are enough of them in the world today as it is. So my solution to prevent Iran from "getting the bomb" would be firstly, yes, to write a very angry letter, with exclamation points and angry looking emoticons and everything. If that doesn't work (it won't) then - short of a long, drawn-out, multilateral negotiation process (a la North Korea) - sanctions really are the only option. To prevent the sort of horrors that occurred under Iraqi sanctions, however, they should be specifically targetted - say a complete ban on military trade. To drive the point home, the UN should also threaten sanctions upon any nation that provides Iran with the equipment it needs to produce the weapons - after all, Iran won't be able to get there without outside help.

And if none of that works? Targetted military strikes perhaps, although that could end up causing more problems than it solves. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jan-22-2006 20:21:

Does Austrailia have a nuke? Because i guess Australia desearves to have a nuke because they have been kissing our american ass since the iraqi war.

Back to Iran. I'd say let there be war. It will cost hundreds of thousands of lives and the American people would be upset that this war would cost billions of dollars while I will not be upset this time and invest my money in URS!!! Since the start of the Iraqi war there stockprice went from $24 to $40! I could have made so much money it just upsets me that I missed out.


Posted by Lepanto on Jan-22-2006 20:51:

Nope Iranian war would have much more support included from Europe so no you're theory, as always, is babble.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-22-2006 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
Nope Iranian war would have much more support included from Europe so no you're theory, as always, is babble.



get lost noob


Posted by Lepanto on Jan-22-2006 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
get lost noob


you can join your brothers and get your ass kicked, cocksucker


Posted by Cyrus King on Jan-22-2006 20:59:

Renegade took the words right out of my mouth.

Although i truly despise the people in power that control iran... i still agree that if they feel threatened by any nation... they should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons if they want. Any nation knows that using a nuclear weapon would ultimately lead to their own destruction, however, any leaders wouldnt want to see their own nation destroyed. They know better than that.

Nukes enable a nation to be taken seriously as opposed to a nation that can just be attacked.

Look at pakistan.. they have nukes and its also a fundementalist muslim nation.

OIL.. it all comes down to US interests in oil and domination of states that CAN be attacked.

North Korea can NEVER be attacked... Pakistan can NEVER be attacked.

If Iraq had a nuke .. The iraq war would never have happened.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Jan-22-2006 21:04:

Since when did people start insulting each other with smiles on their faces? Never seen it happen in the real world, but here at PDD?

"Hey, you're a cocksucker. " What the heck is that? So now we wanna get along when we insult each other?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-22-2006 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Since when did people start insulting each other with smiles on their faces? Never seen it happen in the real world, but here at PDD?

"Hey, you're a cocksucker. " What the heck is that? So now we wanna get along when we insult each other?



Thats a good point


Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-22-2006 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
you can join your brothers and get your ass kicked, cocksucker



or you can join the other so called heros in Iraq and get blown up to pieces for a good cause!!!


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