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Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-18-2006 08:21:

quote:
Originally posted by LieberDJ
what, do you find it hard to believe that a man of my age would listen to electronic music? you must be young and ignorant


What the hell does that have to do with my statement?

I was just noting your registration date is last month. Usually people dont come round here spouting bout how they knows all about how electro began until they've gained some miles on the forums. Im guessing you gained your miles on another account. One would need miles to realize how much an electro thread stirs up the MD...


Posted by Ishkur on Jan-18-2006 08:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Ironically, that song was written by two white guys.


Only after the black man taught them everything they knew.

bitches betta reco'nize, nigga.


Posted by Clovis on Jan-18-2006 08:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Only after the black man taught 'em everything he knew.

bitches betta reco'nize, nigga.




blingectro


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-18-2006 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
LieberDJ, all that stuff you mention is all well and good, but it's missing one key component that is absolutely essential to electro, and is absent from all other works because only American black funk musicians understand it so well: Bass.



Miami is the home of the motherfucking bass
Detroit motorcity is always in the place
Germany can't you see is where it all began
Kraftwerk and Bambaataa had a master plan


Who did that song?


Posted by Radagast on Jan-18-2006 14:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Who did that song?


Ernest P. Worrell & Gallagher




Never heard of them making music? Of course not.





That's why they call this the sound of underground.


Posted by Vainqueur on Jan-18-2006 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by XenatR
but ABBA started the electro scene, and theyre good, so maybe i do like it lol


1. No, ABBA are not electro. They're disco and whatever else, I don't care.

2. They didn't start a scene. ABBA are pop music. Pop music is not a scene. The whole idea of pop music is that you don't have to get into it and understand the whole concept to like it. It is universal and just plain lacks specifics. Electro however is a scene, and it is a culture.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-18-2006 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Vainqueur
The whole idea of pop music is that you don't have to get into it and understand the whole concept to like it. It is universal and just plain lacks specifics. Electro however is a scene, and it is a culture.


Brilliant way of laying it out.


Posted by zshev on Jan-18-2006 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Brilliant way of laying it out.


indeed


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Jan-18-2006 19:45:

There's a statement I made in my electro repsponse that went overlooked on my part and that was this:

"First of all it's a coincedence that Planet Rock sounds like Numbers."

I admit I was wrong in saying this and I apologize for any confusion I might have caused. Also 'Trans-Europe Express' was released in '77 not '78. Thanks to Radagast for that one. Other than that I still stand by the rest of the content in my response.


Posted by ivanbee on Jan-19-2006 00:16:

freestylers?


Posted by Marc Summers on Jan-19-2006 00:46:

i thought electro didn't exist?


Posted by Radagast on Jan-19-2006 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
i thought electro didn't exist?


As far as you're concerned, it doesn't.


Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-19-2006 01:35:

I started electro.

Then radagast followed.

Then sasha.

Now you guys.


Posted by Psy-T on Jan-19-2006 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
I started electro.

Then radagast followed.

Then sasha.

Now you guys.


are you a reincarnation of a still living kraftwerk member?


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-19-2006 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Vainqueur

The whole idea of pop music is that you don't have to get into it and understand the whole concept to like it. It is universal and just plain lacks specifics. Electro however is a scene, and it is a culture.


its nice to know that you didnt even mention that it was a type of music.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Jan-19-2006 02:03:

quote:
Originally posted by ivanbee
freestylers?


No. Freestyle, close but no cigar. They proceeded bambaataa

http://www.discogs.com/release/45151


Posted by Marc Summers on Jan-19-2006 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
As far as you're concerned, it doesn't.


Or am I thinking "Electronica"?


Posted by LieberDJ on Jan-28-2006 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
^^^You're not too bright, buddy. Let me put it to you this way. The first 'electro scene' was synonymous with the b-boy scene in North America, because of its use of breakbeats and ties with hip hop. The first 'scene' in which electro flourished was the streets of New York, onto which it was transported by Kraftwerk and Afrika Bambaataa in the late 70's and early 80's. Alright?



Let me correct your sentence for you.

Created by Kraftwerk in the late 70's, transported by Kraftwerk in the late 70's to early 80s.

Kraftwerk was touring from 1975 to 1981 promoting their albums and doing live shows. They even preformed in the united states. Clearly this should account for a definition in the scene, initiated by their tours. Baker picked up on this, sampled and reworked Kraftwerks material. Recycling of sounds occured in North america and the scene grew. This makes more sense.


Posted by ivanbee on Jan-28-2006 23:40:

i was cleaning out my parents attic yesterday and i came across this record...

ronnie jones - video games (1982)

is this electro?


Posted by Radagast on Jan-29-2006 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by LieberDJ
Let me correct your sentence for you.

Created by Kraftwerk in the late 70's, transported by Kraftwerk in the late 70's to early 80s.

Kraftwerk was touring from 1975 to 1981 promoting their albums and doing live shows. They even preformed in the united states. Clearly this should account for a definition in the scene, initiated by their tours. Baker picked up on this, sampled and reworked Kraftwerks material. Recycling of sounds occured in North america and the scene grew. This makes more sense.


Kraftwerk didn't tour or promote in New York, did they. Even if they did, the scene was in New York, and it was initiated by Bambaata/Baker sampling and reworking Kraftwerk in 1982. Planet Rock went Gold before the end of the year, setting off a slew of imitators, and subsequently the very first Electro scene. Followed shortly by Los Angeles, Miami, and to a smaller extent, Detroit. The reason I mention Kraftwerk in the late 70's is because their music was played on black radio stations in New York, which is how Baker and Bambaataa found it in the first place.

Bambaataa was a DJ in the late 70's, and he played Kraftwerk (Trans Europe Express) at black parties before he finally met Baker and Robie, and helped make Planet Rock in '81 when 'Numbers' was released. Grandmaster Flash was also doing the same thing. Black radio and black DJ's brought Kraftwerk to New York. As a result, the very first "electro" scene was born there. Without Kraftwerk there would have been no Electro scene, but they didn't really actively transport their music onto the streets of New York.

You're looking at "electro scene" from the wrong perspective. It wasn't its own seperate independent "scene" then. At the time, the "electro" scene was synonymous with the "hip hop" scene. They were one and the same, and most "electro" records were in fact "electro-hop", fusing hip hop and Electro.

If anyone helped bring the ideas of Krafwerk to New York through touring, it was probably Gary Numan, who played his popular Kraftwerk-inspired works in his 1978/'79 tours of North America(including New York).


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