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Originally posted by Jocker no, the real reason is because 15 years ago soccer was practically inexistent in america. now, usa have created a great strategy and put a lot into the development, which will pay off in the coming decade. it's pretty far-fetched to say that usa would whoop everyone's ass, because it's pretty hard to beat guys who basically grow up playing soccer every day just for the love of the game (brazilians, that is), and not for the money or career prospects.

But imagaine if guys like Terrell Owens


Michael Vick


and Lebron James


..grew up with an interest in soccer, and not football or basketball.

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Originally posted by BeatFreak But imagaine if guys like Terrell Owens Michael Vick and Lebron James ..grew up with an interest in soccer, and not football or basketball.

lol no.

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Originally posted by BeatFreak But imagaine if guys like Terrell Owens Michael Vick and Lebron James ..grew up with an interest in soccer, and not football or basketball.

Imagine if Ronaldo and Ronaldinho had an interest in American Football. They'd be scoring touchdowns up and down the field.

..or maybe they would've been killed.

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Originally posted by zoric ..or maybe they would've been killed.

Seriously, Ronaldinho doing a few steps over when making a field goal. Good stuff.

That would make such an awesome nike commercial.

Yeah, Hehe. But I'm not sure about Ronaldo. He's too slow..

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Originally posted by zoric Yeah, Hehe. But I'm not sure about Ronaldo. He's too slow..

He could play defense, he's got the weight. And Robinho as receiver.

EDIT: Nachos, don't even think about getting started with Mexico.

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Originally posted by sensorium He could play defense, he's got the weight. And Robinho as receiver. EDIT: Nachos, don't even think about getting started with Mexico.

lol @ ronaldo as the defensive line; el gortio.

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Originally posted by sensorium Imagine if Ronaldo and Ronaldinho had an interest in American Football. They'd be scoring touchdowns up and down the field.

LOL, they could be the kicker.



LOL

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Originally posted by nchs09 lol no.

I guarauntee this guy could outrun most, if not all, soccer players. You probably don't even know who he is.

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Originally posted by BeatFreak I guarauntee this guy could outrun most, if not all, soccer players.

lol no.

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you probably dont know who he is.

lol yes i do

u suck @ sports

Here he is.

No offense or anything but running with a ball in your hands is much easier than running and kickng the ball. Two different games.

There is no point in discussing this.

not only that, he is comparing 1 man being faster than anyone who plays futbol which is the most played sport in the world...

yet noone is faster than him? haha

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Originally posted by sensorium EDIT: Nachos, don't even think about getting started with Mexico.

+1

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Originally posted by BeatFreak I guarauntee this guy could outrun most

TRUE THAT

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Originally posted by sensorium No offense or anything but running with a ball in your hands is much easier than running and kickng the ball. Two different games. There is no point in discussing this.

Try throwing and catching. Or better yet...using your HANDS. All while guys are trying to take your head off.
You both lose this argument. There's plenty of fast guys like Vick. It's just that Vick is a quarterback who has a cannon for an arm too. Do i need to explain what a quarterback is?
Football players don't stand around like soccer players when the ball isn't near them.

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Originally posted by BeatFreak But imagaine if guys like Terrell Owens Michael Vick and Lebron James ..grew up with an interest in soccer, and not football or basketball.

They in particular probably wouldn't go anywhere since exceptional physical skills don't make the difference by themselves on top level professional football. Exceptional physical skills with slightly above average technical skills can cut it tho.

I do see your general point of view, and kinda agree with it, if the whole USA was as interested in football as say England or Spain, their national team could be one of the big ones. But population by itself doesn't directly mean a great team, Russia is huge as well and more interested in football than the US but didn't qualify!

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Originally posted by BeatFreak Try throwing and catching. Or better yet...using your HANDS. All while guys are trying to take your head off. You both lose this argument. There's plenty of fast guys like Vick. It's just that Vick is a quarterback who has a cannon for an arm too. Do i need to explain what a quarterback is? Football players don't stand around like soccer players when the ball isn't near them.

ok ok u win. hahahha what a nutjob. silly american.

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Originally posted by BeatFreak Try throwing and catching. Or better yet...using your HANDS. All while guys are trying to take your head off.

Yes handling is a skill. But that defeats you in your previous argument that those physical monsters would be great footballers. Handling is only useful in football for goalkeepers. And for that position strenght and speed are pretty much worth nothing (agility, jumping and reflexes are everything)

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Football players don't stand around like soccer players when the ball isn't near them.

Again true, but that does not imply american "football" is "better" than football. It's a question of focus on physics vs focus on technique.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 Yes handling is a skill. But that defeats you in your previous argument that those physical monsters would be great footballers. Handling is only useful in football for goalkeepers. And for that position strenght and speed are pretty much worth nothing (agility, jumping and reflexes are everything)

You would know this how? You've played keeper? I am a keeper and keepers need to be in better shape than anyone else on their team. I have been told this over and over again by college coaches and trainers. Everyone always says goalkeepers are lazy and that they never have to do anything. We need speed to get to the ball before the forwards if we are slower than them they''ll score. Same with strength. Try diving from far post to near post, taking the ball out of the air, and not letting go. Not as easy as you think it is.

Oh and the for the World Cup I really hope Brazil doesn't win it, they're by far the best team and they've been on the last 3 finals, so another winner would be far more refreshing.

Our team is considered by many as part of the big favs group, but i think we're just a strong outsider. It is possible we could get there in the last few rounds, but we're going have to face opposition that is at the very least as good as us, starting most probably on the 1/8th finals (Holland or Argentina!).

For the past 2 world cups I've considered Italy and Argentina as huge favs yet they disappointed. I will go for a 3rd and keep them as my big bets.

my money is srsly on brazil..... or argentina

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Originally posted by SomewhatDamaged You would know this how? You've played keeper? I am a keeper and keepers need to be in better shape than anyone else on their team. I have been told this over and over again by college coaches and trainers. Everyone always says goalkeepers are lazy and that they never have to do anything. We need speed to get to the ball before the forwards if we are slower than them they''ll score. Same with strength. Try diving from far post to near post, taking the ball out of the air, and not letting go. Not as easy as you think it is.

I've only played for a couple seasons as a keeper in rink hockey which is a very different sport so I guess it doesn't count as real experience, but still there are some small similarities.

Of course the keeper has to be in good physical condition, like any other player on the field! It's just that the physical skills required for the position are very, very different than the skills required for american football.

Raw speed is important when one-on-one with a striker yes, but timing makes a huge part of it. It is also very important to react fast but that is quite different from pace.

Strenght i don't think it is important at all (except for strenght on the fists to punch the ball!), you just don't see Buffon, Cech, Dida with the huge chest from those guys whose pics were posted before! It's all about agility, reflexes, not the size of the muscles! That's what I meant..

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