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Posted by PVD_S11DJ on Jan-16-2002 17:24:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ABTsportsline
[B]Finally... i was wondering where all my "i really don't care for PvD" brethren were!! As a DJ his mixing skills are alright but i really don't care for his track selection... and neither for his productions. For an Angel was ok, but it (for me) got played out. His remix of Thrillseekers - Synaesthasia was awesome... but other than that...? Can anyone direct me to any good PvD tunes? B/c i think i've heard most of them and i don't like them.

I shall direct ABT's ear towards Face to Face, Together We Will Conquer, Out There and Back, Vega (esp. new Staircase rmx!), Autumn and hang on.... OUT THERE!!


Posted by dj_mdma on Jan-16-2002 17:27:

I can't beleive Racoon dissed

DJ Tiesto - Flight 643
Marco V - Godd
iio - Rapture
Paul Van Dyk - Out There
Trancesetters - The Saga
Dumonde - Never Look Back
Dumonde Vs Lange - Memory
Lange - Drifting Away HOW COULD YOU
Mauro Picotto - Awesome
Cosmic Gate - Back To Earth
Cosmic Gate - Hardcore
Members Of Mayday - 10 In 01

Lange's new track is fucking amazing!!!


Posted by capricorn15 on Jan-16-2002 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by AndiH


oh well...keep listening to dumonde cause none of their remixes sounds the same


haha someone, i forget who but they wrote this another time, a while back one some dumondeaddict made fun of some remixes taht soudn the same, i think airwave remix perhaps
haha


Posted by PVD_S11DJ on Jan-16-2002 18:01:

"Good" songs that I've never been wild about ---

Blank & jones - Cream
Armin - Communication
PVD - Avenue
PVD - Columbia
Insigma - Open Our Eyes
Jan Johnston - Flesh
Push - Universial Nation


Posted by Dave_Masters on Jan-16-2002 18:09:

Im horrified to see people dissin Energy 52. IMO thats what trance is all about.

I agree with IIO, that never was a fav of mine.


Posted by laird on Jan-16-2002 22:36:

Original Mix 'Theory'!

I can't believe the guy who said you can only really judge a track by the original mix, that just does not hold water, one famous exampleis Blockster - 'Grooveline' - rubbish
Blockster - 'Grooveline'(Matt Darey Remix) - fantastic.

I rest my case.


Posted by djnick on Jan-16-2002 22:55:

Re: Original Mix 'Theory'!

quote:
Originally posted by laird
I can't believe the guy who said you can only really judge a track by the original mix, that just does not hold water, one famous exampleis Blockster - 'Grooveline' - rubbish
Blockster - 'Grooveline'(Matt Darey Remix) - fantastic.

I rest my case.


that was me, and yes u just added an agreement to my post, 'Grooveline'(Matt Darey Remix) credit goes to matt darey for making the song good, therefore meaning blockbusters sucks, since of original mix sucked, then the track is crap, however in this case matt darey gave it life, so its only good because of him.


Posted by davinox on Jan-16-2002 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkLordz
iio - rapture is crap, you can only really judge a song if the original mix was even decent, but iio- rapture is crap, along with the other remixes, its not even really trance, and the vocals are pathetic, dont understand why people like this song, also i think all pvd songs suck except maybe a few that i like, but too lazy to list.
hmmm... we both don't like pvd, maybe it's a U.S. thing??

also, i don't see why people like Airscape remixes!!! Never liked an Airscape mix, they crappafy songs!! Take Sylver - Turn the Tide for example.... nice vocals, they fuck it up. CJ Stone mix is so much better.


Posted by dj_mind-x on Jan-16-2002 23:20:

1. Gouryella - Walhalla (i cant hear this tune anymore!!)
2. Rank1 - Such is Life (deep dub mix) <- booooring, no power!
3. apoptygma berzerk - kathys song (ferry corsten remix) <- hat it!


Posted by Rakoon on Jan-16-2002 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by ABTsportsline
Finally... i was wondering where all my "i really don't care for PvD" brethren were!! As a DJ his mixing skills are alright but i really don't care for his track selection... and neither for his productions. For an Angel was ok, but it (for me) got played out. His remix of Thrillseekers - Synaesthasia was awesome... but other than that...? Can anyone direct me to any good PvD tunes? B/c i think i've heard most of them and i don't like them.


I agree about PVD. I think that sometimes he is "on" and his tracks are great and sometimes he is "off". For An Angel is your average song, but everybody goes crazy of it and claim its the best trance song ever. Now this only makes the track worse in my taste. Tsk tsk tsk.. Now the ones I think are "on" are Another Way and Tell Me Why. Those two are classic. And then there is Vega, Face To Face, and Out There And Back. And of course his latest, Autumn.

Oh and you can add "Paul Van Dyk - Vega (Starecase Remix)" to my list of songs I dislike that are "good".


Posted by speedracer_mec on Jan-17-2002 00:30:

hmmmm

lets seee what else i hate but ppeople love.....


Faithless- Tarantula (dj tiesto remix)

There is absolutely no buildup and its pure garbage which wuz probably made by one of tiesto's relatives.


Posted by TranceSeeker on Jan-17-2002 00:40:

tiesto - flight643 --> im really hating this one now
fire&ice - lost emotions2001
system f - dance valley theme 2001

I saw someone wrote PUSH - UNIVERSAL NATION OMG ???????????????
This Is "THE" ANTHEM man.
Jan Johnston - flesh (tiesto remix) ????????? OMG
This track is really amazing


Posted by TranceSeeker on Jan-17-2002 00:41:

tiesto - flight643 --> im really hating this one now
fire&ice - lost emotions2001
system f - dance valley theme 2001

I saw someone wrote PUSH - UNIVERSAL NATION OMG ???????????????
This Is "THE" ANTHEM man.
Jan Johnston - flesh (tiesto remix) ????????? OMG
This track is really amazing
Insigma - open your eyes
Man whats wrong with you??? .... you're looking kinda down to me... heheh


Posted by u4ea:[soulstar] on Jan-17-2002 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Hell_Copter
i really don't like
Fire & Ice - souvenir de chine
that song sucks ass!!!


WELL, you can kiss my....!! haha jk


Don't like:

Armin - Communication I & II *Brain-freeze
Gouryella - Walhalla *ACK!!
System F - Out of the Blue *Ahh yeah
Dj Tiesto - Flight 643 *Zzzzzz
jan johnston - flesh **shivers


Posted by capricorn15 on Jan-17-2002 10:03:

hehe out of the blue, that song practically got me into trance, but its cool, your opinion =)


Posted by Snooper on Jan-18-2002 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkLordz
iio - rapture is crap, you can only really judge a song if the original mix was even decent, but iio- rapture is crap, along with the other remixes, its not even really trance, and the vocals are pathetic, dont understand why people like this song, also i think all pvd songs suck except maybe a few that i like, but too lazy to list.


Well said!

Perp. Dreamer - Sound Of Goodbye is also heavily overrated, none of the mixes of this tune are very special IMO.


Posted by Snooper on Jan-18-2002 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_mdma
I can't beleive Racoon dissed
iio - Rapture
Members Of Mayday - 10 In 01


Dude, this tunes suck! 10 in 01: pure cheese, nothing else!


Posted by Crazy Serb on Jan-18-2002 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by ABTsportsline
I can't believe i am the first person (other than Ste) to mention that Souvenir De Shit sucks!!

I also don't care for anything by Ayumi Hamasaki.... although Above & Beyond salvaged the song M for me... but then again Above & Beyond always impresses....

On the other hand, i do like communication, such is life, out of the blue, flight 643, urban train, and pretty much everything else mentioned... I am usually pretty tolerant, but i don't see anything special about Souvenir de Chine....

...Also dislike Rapture... all remixes.. i don't like the vocals and i can't see anything that "stands out" about the tune...

...and yes, Windsider's "Hidden Flight" kicks ass... and has to be one of the best combining-of-tracks i've ever heard.

-ABT-


I agree with you on all those points... even tho I kinda like the AVB's remix of Rapture.

I also happen to love 10 in 01 by Members of Mayday! The hyppest song ever! And PVD's work, remixes, PoD album? I love them all... the more I listen to PoD album, the more it grows on me, and the more I appreciate PVD's mixing skills...

And yes, Souvenir de Shite sux, so does Joyenergizer...


Posted by Hell_Copter on Jan-18-2002 21:30:

out of the blue is a great song!!!
but it's my opinion...
i saw that someone wrote he like AVB remix of Rapture

i'm with u man!!!!
the best remix for rapture... no doubt


Posted by davinox on Jan-18-2002 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by fantom


I agree with you on all those points... even tho I kinda like the AVB's remix of Rapture.

I also happen to love 10 in 01 by Members of Mayday! The hyppest song ever! And PVD's work, remixes, PoD album? I love them all... the more I listen to PoD album, the more it grows on me, and the more I appreciate PVD's mixing skills...

And yes, Souvenir de Shite sux, so does Joyenergizer...
haha...members of mayday better than Souvenir? yeah right! Members of Mayday 01 in 01 sounds like a crappy MP3.com track! Souvenir isn't incredible, but it's quality.

Flesh is a beautiful track that grows on you. I think Flesh, Innocente, and Silence are Tiesto's finest work, and some of the best vocal tracks ever.

PVD is a good DJ, his mixing skills superb, but i can't stand his songs! They just sound so crappy and boring, IMO.

Out of the Blue.....OVERRATED??????? Perhaps the 5AM mix is overrated, (like the original alot better, but 5am still good.) but how can you say the track is overrated? It deserves everything it can get! It has so many layers, and the melody is brilliant.


Posted by TranceLuver4evr on Jan-19-2002 03:11:

Rasta

quote:
Originally posted by davinox
haha...members of mayday better than Souvenir? yeah right! Members of Mayday 01 in 01 sounds like a crappy MP3.com track! Souvenir isn't incredible, but it's quality.



O......u crazy dude.........Memebers of Mayday 10 in 1 kick ass.........you really have to hear that tune in a club.......one of my fav now

But Souvenir De Chine...........hmm yeah.........sounds like some old quality trance from 2 years ago


Posted by Crazy Serb on Jan-19-2002 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr


O......u crazy dude.........Memebers of Mayday 10 in 1 kick ass.........you really have to hear that tune in a club.......one of my fav now

But Souvenir De Chine...........hmm yeah.........sounds like some old quality trance from 2 years ago


Hehhee, exactly my point... I've heard both of those songs in a club, and 10 in 01 just sounds million times better... and Souvenir de Chine does sound a lot like older trance...


Posted by TeKnoHe@d2025 on Jan-19-2002 06:21:

The majority of PvD remixes...can't stand them.

Sure, he's a great DJ. But, Paul...stick to DJing and mixing CDs...


Posted by Tweak on Jan-19-2002 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper


Perp. Dreamer - Sound Of Goodbye is also heavily overrated, none of the mixes of this tune are very special IMO.


Cmon, the Blank n Jones mix can give me chills...

I also find PVDs tunez snoozeworthy...except maybe Tell me why (PVD Mix), has a nice funky beat.


Posted by dj_mdma on Jan-19-2002 10:05:

@ Snooper, The tunes without smileys next to Racoons tunes aren't the best of tunes! But the ones with , I can't beleive he did that!

And Out of the Blue snould be on everyones favourite's lists, cos that was one of the first tunes to break into the mainstream, that was good.


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