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Originally posted by extacy_bomb i swear now i don even have one live set or an album from tiesto in my collection but no matter what i respect him. I don' jus understand why people hate him. i think it's stupid to hate or love a Dj too much.

Correct!

you have to remember that a lot of people do not like where Tiesto is taking Trance Music....especially old schoolers, like myself, we don't want to see the music become a Walt Disney Adventure....or become to commercial....tiesto has his fans....personally, I don't care for the majority of fans that he get....you look at this weekend...you have Deep Dish and Johan playing this weekend and the hype in TOTA land is huge for these two events. With Tiesto you are gonna get the same hype but you are also gonna get the Z103 crowd who hear tiesto all the time and think that is the be all and end all to trance. They don't appreciate the music, they just like it because a top 40 channel on the radio tells them it's good. I will never forget back in July when one guy in line was affraid he would miss the start of Tiesto because it was almost 11 pm. When I told him not to expect tiesto to be on until at least 1 he couldn't understand how the main act could come on so late. When I told him how late the party went on he was shocked that a party would keep going after the alcohol stopped flowing.

For me it is not tiesto I hate...it's the type of people that flock to him that bothers me. If tiesto got the same crowd as Deep Dish and Johan will get this weekend then I wouuld probably go see him. Also, I really don't like his style of trance.

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Originally posted by extacy_bomb i swear now i don even have one live set or an album from tiesto in my collection but no matter what i respect him. I don' jus understand why people hate him. i think it's stupid to hate or love a Dj too much.

because many fools think that because theyve listened to trance for a few years, and have thousands of posts on TA, they're perception of good music is the only music should be liked. And if someone thinks differently, they are wrong. such retards also like to impose their opinions on other people because they dont understand that everyone has different taste/opinions in music or simply have too much time on their hands.

For the thread starter:
Many people appreciate Tiesto and what he's done for trance. Any real trance fan would. Not every TA is a trance addict.

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Originally posted by High on PSI because many fools think that because theyve listened to trance for a few years, and have thousands of posts on TA, they're perception of good music is the only music should be liked. And if someone thinks differently, they are wrong. such retards also like to impose their opinions on other people because they dont understand that everyone has different taste/opinions in music or simply have too much time on their hands. For the thread starter: Many people appreciate Tiesto and what he's done for trance. Any real trance fan would. Not every TA is a trance addict.

ya i agree with you and also admit that tiesto crowd is kind of Gino nowadays and i think it all started from the fact that he was the best Dj for couple of years in row and mainstream recognised him. also MTV played his "traffic " video.
But i my opinion we shouldn't look so negative at things ,maybe a gino guy that listens to trash euro music starts liking trance just by these mainstream tiesto songs and then become a real trancer.
As a matter of fact i've seen how a gino freind of mine developed from listening Gino beats to tiesto and then now he listens to AVB , blank and jones,M.I.k.E and even some progressives.
So tiesto's music (not always) can be a good transport to trance music.

Dj Tiesto - Live @ Energy 2000 is ear candy.

Tiesto who???

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Originally posted by High on PSI because many fools think that because theyve listened to trance for a few years, and have thousands of posts on TA, they're perception of good music is the only music should be liked. And if someone thinks differently, they are wrong. such retards also like to impose their opinions on other people because they dont understand that everyone has different taste/opinions in music or simply have too much time on their hands. For the thread starter: Many people appreciate Tiesto and what he's done for trance. Any real trance fan would. Not every TA is a trance addict.

Absolutely... every true trance lover has to understand and respect what Tiesto has done for the industry. He was one of the next gen pioneers after Oakenfold fell out of the spotlight. It's a fact... he has helped our industry more than most will acknowledge or understand... I believe he's also hindered our industry a great deal. I'm not trying to push my opinions on anyone, but I'm a firm believer of sharing knowledge and education.

I believe most are not necessarily Tiesto haters, but are rather frustrated with the type of hybrid clubber his marketing has spawned. Tiesto's fan base is generally the new post-rave era of trance music lovers. Most never experienced where trance was formed and the community it created and can't understand how its current state is destroying the industry we once had. They're part of a type of propeganda that has people believing that DJs are super human rock stars and forget about the music that they play. They see rankings and promotion instead of new and experimental music... which is what really drives the industry. "Well if Tiesto plays it.. it must be good..." Wrong... Tiesto plays what he knows will sell. He knows what sells because "THEY" tell you what the "best" is and what you want. "THEY" don't care about the music, they simply care about the money it generates.

Tiesto is the Britney Spears of Electronic Music (I don't mean that as a slam or dig whatsoever... just a comparison between industries)... Doesn't mean he has no talent... It simply means that he's got an army behind him doing everything to make you believe that you'd rather pay money to see him play music than any other DJ. Anyone that believes that a title such as "#1 DJ in the world" holds any sort of validity is simply a robot. There is no such thing as a #1 DJ. Just a better PR group

Like I said before... there is no spoon... realize the truth...

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Originally posted by extacy_bomb So tiesto's music (not always) can be a good transport to trance music.

HAHA I love this!!

Tiesto is a "Gateway DJ"...

hehe brilliant... and very true...

so what Tiesto played at disneyland?
so what Tiesto does concerts with clowns and magicians?

many would argue that he is doing to bring trance into the mainstream spotlight but then again many will argue differently. most of tiesto haters are ppl who dont even listen to trance. they used to but now they dont, becuase " they know what real music is "
but then again alot of tiesto haters are ppl who run to the box office to buy his ticket when he is in town and are in line at the club before the beer truck arrives.

one thing is for sure tho, we all are n00bs and dont even have a single track or experience or anything of that sort under our belt like tiesto does. or for that matter whomever your favourite dj is. untill you yourself get some tunes out there get a record deal of some sort or play some events like tiesto has or any other top djs i dont think theres room to talk shit. and that implies to me as well cos i often catch myself putting down tiesto or armin for just reason of them not making the kind of music " I " like.

this is a never ending debate lolz

^^^^it's like the chicken and the egg

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I appreciate the fact that Tiesto hasn't been back to Toronto since July....keep the streak going....pull a PVD on us

since June if we want to get technical here

and this is a neverending debate on Tiesto for sure.. best years 2000-2003 imo.. best album In My Memory.. I would also have to say that his Heineken Hall set in Amsterdam (12.3.05) has probably been one of his best sets in a good 1.5 years or more.. totally has every style in there.. changing things up a little.. I like what he did that night.. too bad he didn't play like that all the time
*note he played Preach in that set*

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Originally posted by magikb since June if we want to get technical here and this is a neverending debate on Tiesto for sure.. best years 2000-2003 imo.. best album In My Memory.. I would also have to say that his Heineken Hall set in Amsterdam (12.3.05) has probably been one of his best sets in a good 1.5 years or more.. totally has every style in there.. changing things up a little.. I like what he did that night.. too bad he didn't play like that all the time *note he played Preach in that set*

I did enjoy 01 and 02.....and I still throw in the odd Tiesto CD when coming home from the club.

Maybe I should go on a Tiesto bender one weekend and see if I can fall in love with him again, in a musical not gay way....oh man that sounded even worse....ah shit why won't I just stop typing...srsly why can't I stop typing this is stupid...just hit submit and this will all end but I need to use the mouse to do that ah here we go...hard to

many of the people who hate Tiesto (here and abroad) were once some of his biggest fans. But I do notice a trend here....when a Dj gets very popular, they start playing in bigger clubs to bigger audiences and lose that personal connection to the real, hardcore fans. Look at Tiesto's last gig in Toronto...it was fucking rammed with so many fake fans, I couldn't believe it. But anyway, I first discovered this type of music in 2000 and Tiesto was my gateway with Magik 6. I still feel that's a top class mix album and I wish we'd see more of that style of trance being produced rather than the endless wave (another great Tiesto production ) of cheesey and simplistic vocal trance that Armin pumps out with his productions/cd's.

I"ll always be grateful to Tiesto for creating a style of music that helped ease me into the dance world because there was a time where I really looked down on "techno". These days, I have to say my enthusiasm for him has clearly diminished. I no longer listen to his cd's as often I once did, I don't bother checking his tracklists or visiting his official website anymore, or it's forum. I can't enjoy his livesets as much either because of all the fucktards who go and push to the front like morons or those who keep shoving their way all over the place.

I find myself going over to the progressive and house side of things because that uplifting trance just doesn't quite do it anymore, plus there's hardly any good quality being produced. But I don't hate Tiesto and I never will. He'll never be as popular as he was the last 2-3 years and I'm sure he knows that. He might even retire soon for all we know.

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�spose it really was only a matter of time before this issue came to fruition. So, is Tiesto the worst or best thing that has happened to trance? Someplace in between? Or not even to be considered as trance?

Of course, the answer depends on your definition. Your definition of trance, your definition of a DJ, and your definition of success. There is absolutely no denying that the big name DJ�s have had a profound and lasting impact on the EDM scene- Tiesto, Armin, Oaky (and the other top 40 jocks on the DJ List) all have helped bring electronic music to the mainstream. The question is whether this is a good thing! In my view, it is. Absolutely, it is. I could probably reference almost any musical genre to draw comparisons, but rock is probably the best example. Rock and Roll got it�s �start� at grass-roots level largely in black communities. An extension of R&B, jazz, blues and a selective adoption of several other genres (including the Irish Jig) � the first explosions on the scene being pioneers like Berry and Diddly. Anything with a guitar, bass, drums and sax was thrown in to this new category- and this became the recipe to satiate the white market. Presley used the traditional, catchy and tried tricks of rock to become a sensation. Brit rock took it overseas and added its own spice. Eventually the recipe became a systemic formula with the birth of Boy/Girl bands and the creation of pop music. Today, rock is a vast genre spanning everything from death metal to adult contemporary. But, take a look at Billboard�s top 10 and the ONLY rock artist is Nicklback.

IMO, the evolution of EDM from an underground weekend sound for gay, black men to the state that it is today owes much to �commercial� producers/DJ�s. For house, this was probably the KLF. For trance, it was the likes of Robert Miles (oops, please don�t hurt me), cultivated in later years by PVD and our boy, Tiesto. It�s formulaic, predictable, and catchy as all hell. And it�s the common denominator. Which brings attention to the scene. Which brings money to the scene. Which brings people to the scene. People who take interest in its other branches, become DJ�s, or producers, or support indy DJs and producers. There remains a true underground scene- flourishing with the facilities afforded by the internet and by the attention that the big name guys draw in. As someone alluded prior in this thread, Tiesto is the pot to our coke. The blush zinfandel to our port. Sweet? Yes. Ubiquitous? Yes. Mass appeal? Well, yes. So ignore the uncoolness of it. Ignore the unoriginality of it. Once you get past the hype, the self-promotion and poke fun at the narcissism, what you really have is a mediocre DJ who has virtually unlimited resources to share his mediocrity with the world. That�s his success- trance�s Nickelback. And through it he�s enabled hundreds of DJ�s that profess to starting off spinning the epic trance tunes and have turned into purveyors of pure hedonism on the streets. Next time you get a chance, ask Blu, Dekoze, or Addy (and yourself!) what the first track you ever spun was.

Just my two cents (and I am actually interested in checking out what everyone�s first beat was, but I don�t wanna threadjack) Sorry for the long post, I�ve been bottling it up for a while.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Please delete this thread now.....for the sake of TOTA please do...this can cause nothing but problems.

thread closed

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced I appreciate the fact that Tiesto hasn't been back to Toronto since July....keep the streak going....pull a PVD on us

I hope he does pull a PvD except I hope there's a switch and PvD ends up coming back more consistently instead of Tiesto...

- all those who think that most of us who dislike tiesto is because hes popular, ur wrong. its because hes popular with just basic dj talent while even the unknown bedroom dj has more skill than him. djing is more than just beatmatching in todays world with the technology/tools and all the genres that keep popping up

- we dont dislike a dj/artist when they go "commercial" but when their popularity is bsed on PR is when it pisses us off...look at the likes of deep dish as mentioned previously in this thread..those guys won/got nominated for (cant remember) a grammy as well...we still love em (well alot call them sleep dish but thats cos not everyone HAS TO like the artist/dj)

- we dont post in the million and one tiesto threads that get started on a monthly basis (well most of us) and respect the taste in music...but to start yet another stupid appreciation thread thats even more stupid cos of the fact that u consider this mortal with the bare talent as a god is just asking for comments

I like Tiesto...sometimes

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I like Tiesto...sometimes

i like lisa at tiesto

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar i like lisa at tiesto

that's b/c that was the first time i met you

now back to what we're all here for in this thread:

"Birds of a feather flock together":



Tiesto DOES mean flowerpot and heres one of the several results i got when i typed tiesto in the google image search:
http://titto.250free.com/fotos/tiesto-sarten.jpg

Go tiesto GO tiesto coke....erm i mean GO:



this is the fanbase that attends mickeymouseland:




(all images courtesy of google search for "tiesto")

THIS THREAD IS TOO EASY

shhh...not so blatant...this is a PG-13 show

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee (all images courtesy of google search for "tiesto")

how could u miss this one?



*edit*

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Originally posted by Sasha how could u miss this one?

i didnt...but that was the only productive result in my search and i didnt want to share

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