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sure Rebel, some constructive criticism is great. But when you try and tell someone what production style they should pursue, and what tracks they should be spinning....it comes off as just a tad arrogant.

You kept arguing even tho he answered everything you asked, this in term can make anyone look childish

And trust me, I never even listened to a single one of Hardin's productions and probably wont, so my comments are based purely on how your post came off , and nothing to do with the person the comments were directed at

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Originally posted by Tweak sure Rebel, some constructive criticism is great. But when you try and tell someone what production style they should pursue, and what tracks they should be spinning....it comes off as just a tad arrogant.

agree to 100 %

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Originally posted by trancedanne agree to 100 %

for once try to have your own opinion. all I ever see you do is quote others replies with "+1" etc.

Oooooooooooooo

Wrong but okey, What should i say? That you only comment the same things all the fucking time? "the typical andy moor bassline is boring", "armin & schulz sucks" things like this you write 200 times everyday which is just sad. You think you can change what people listening too by saying things like "well someday you will probably understand how boring this sound is". Maybe some of us love this kind of music and dont give a shit about what you think, you dont even like melodic trance & progressive exept for those joof relases so i dont understand why you have too post here. Every person know what you thinks about this kind of progressive anyway.
Try posting more about the tracks you like instead of writing negative things about tracks 90 % of your time here..
And most of the time you dont comment the track its the mcprog thing or the producer you say anything about.
Im glad i enjoy much of todays music instead of trying too find anything good in this world..
and now you will probably say something typicall that i swallow most of the tracks today and cant see whats quality and not, but who cares..

once again you don't know a crap about my taste or what I listen to. Those who knows me; Ian, montana, The_Chris etc knows that I love both melodic and progressive. In fact 80% of my entire record collection is melodic trance.
And some of you seem to forget that this is an open discussion forum. It's so bizarre to see that when someone here hypes a tune "OMG ARMIN PLAYED IT!!! 10/10!" you suppose that the rest of the horde is going to reply with the same kind of stuff. And if anyone say something negative about the tune you always reply with the same crap "if you dont like it then dont post!!!" .

Do you even know what freedom of speech means? One can have opinions no matter what they are. Positive or negative. How would the producers improve if no one post anything negative?

The reason why I am not so found of Andy Moors sound is simply because I see it as something which is hyped for the moment. It's going to die out soon. What are you going to do then? Beg your idols to rehash it?

If better stuff was produced I'm sure I would be more positive. It's just that not much good trance is produced nowadays.
And I am not all negative. I credit those who deserves it.
If you read this thread I'm far from the only one who thinks this tune is boring.

freedom of speech, haha i have seen you (not just you) flame other people a million times because soneone say that they like tiesto, schulz or andy moor, is that really freedom of speech, intressting.
And you can post how much you want as long as it has anything to do with the track otherwise it gets annoying as i said before.
If someone doesnt like this tune i dont give a shit, its only their opinion but many times "your" comments go abit to far as other people has said also.
In this forum for ex you pointed out that Niklas Harding doesnt produce his tracks alone, i mean is that really intressting to know at this point?
I cant see how the producer can evole when you say those standard things about mc prog anyway as they already know that there are people who think this way.

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Originally posted by trancedanne freedom of speech, haha i have seen you (not just you) flame other people a million times because soneone say that they like tiesto, schulz or andy moor, is that really freedom of speech, intressting. And you can post how much you want as long as it has anything to do with the track otherwise it gets annoying as i said before. If someone doesnt like this tune i dont give a shit, its only their opinion but many times "your" comments go abit to far as other people has said also. In this forum for ex you pointed out that Niklas Harding doesnt produce his tracks alone, i mean is that really intressting to know at this point? I cant see how the producer can evole when you say those standard things about mc prog anyway as they already know that there are people who think this way.

Stuff needed to be cleared out and If i hadn't pointed it out some people would still believe Niklas didn't produce his own tunes.
How many do actually read at the vinyl where it says who else produced the tune?
Did you know it?
No you don't give a shit if someone doesn't like this tune.
Otherwise you wouldn't be so hostile against others opinions.
I don't know if Niklas knows if he produce mcprog or how he want to label it. That is not my problem. I'm just the listener.

I can honestly say that i didnt know it but it doesnt change my opinion of his music. Im sure many doesnt know that 95 % of all picotto tracks are co-produced or stoneface & terminal are behind most of alex morph stuff but who cares, its the music that counts..
hostile? i have only reacted too your comments and it has nothing to do if you liked this track or not..
& Niklas maybe doesnt care if he produces mcprog? as long as he likes what he does

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Originally posted by trancedanne I can honestly say that i didnt know it but it doesnt change my opinion of his music. Im sure many doesnt know that 95 % of all picotto tracks are co-produced or stoneface & terminal are behind most of alex morph stuff but who cares, its the music that counts.. hostile? i have only reacted too your comments and it has nothing to do if you liked this track or not.. & Niklas maybe doesnt care if he produces mcprog? as long as he likes what he does

yeah thats what I told Niklas too. he is free to produce whatever he likes. I'm just the listener and I give my comments.
Maybe they are helpful for him, maybe not.
But I'm not a sheep, thats for sure.

to get back on the subject, both mixes sounded quite average. Nothing special imo. I feel they both are lacking somtehing to grab my attention 5/10

trancedanne, dont bother debating with the rebel, a guy with such a bloated ego cant be reasoned with.

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Originally posted by trancedanne Im sure many doesnt know that 95 % of all picotto tracks are co-produced or stoneface & terminal are behind most of alex morph stuff but who cares, its the music that counts..

Yes many people do know that - because they were named and shamed here on TA. Now so is Niklas

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Originally posted by petrov66 trancedanne, dont bother debating with the rebel, a guy with such a bloated ego cant be reasoned with.

it's always good to have experienced, long-time forum members to point us to these facts

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! Yes many people do know that - because they were named and shamed here on TA. Now so is Niklas

Yeah man, reeeeaaalllyyy shamed lemme tell you...

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Yeah man, reeeeaaalllyyy shamed lemme tell you...

Its a euphamism.



ffs

Wow,look at this thread.LOL,now this is what i call offtopic thread .Anyway about the tracks (and first i heard the tracks and then i browsed the thread )

I prefer the Niklas Harding remix.Call it as you want but as i said,i first heard the tunes and then decided to reply.To be frankly i don't care if i'll enjoy it after 3-4 years (that's why and i'm not giving it a 10/10),but right now i like it a lot and that matters to be honest.The present time.The bassline is great and better than the one in the Original Mix.Niklas also has tweaked the melody in a good way (although the synths remind me indeed of Andy Moor's and Probspot's productions) and generally his remix sounds better in my ears.Great stuff Niklas,keep it up

Original Mix 7/10
Niklas Harding Remix : 8.5/10

what happened to the timo mae remix? i liked that. the original is sweet as fuck. havnt heard niklas harding remix!

off original topic but on current topic: rebel9 is honest and constructive in his critism, but yes, can sometimes come off quite harsh. but trust me there are people here on TA who are alot more unhelpful than him. i wont mention any names... niklas, there have been some very unnessesary posts in this thread about your remix, which until challenged by yourself were totally unconstructive.. but ignore it... if you like the music you are making then keep making it. we all know that everyone has different preferences but i think it takes time to learn to accept it. ive really enjoyed some of your productions in the past, and there are some that i havnt enjoyed so much. but there are people out there who do like the ones that i dont, so fuck it!

also people here need to learn where to draw the line between critisisng and being down right rude. alot of people are very passionate about the music they make and there are more helpful ways of criticising it than saying its shit or boring and generally throwing hate in their direction. there are members here who dislike other members people because of the music they like or make, and thats pathetic. sort it out guys.

on the other hand, maybe we are all taking the internet a bit too seriosuly! people aren't scared to be honest, because they are safe behind their computer screens in their bedrooms. its almost an excuse to be a prick in its own right! "i can get away with it, so why not?!" haha

Great melody by Joni. Niklas remix, too much of all the above complains, but still decent. Overall great release.

Actually neither of the two does it for me... I'm a bit disappointed in this release... I prefer Joni more under his "LNQ" and "Ljungqvist" aliases

excellent tune and nh rmx, waited an age for this to get released.

Awesome tune by Joni! Good work by this guy. I felt that he was releasing too much tunes that were just not "top", as well as many remix..

I was thinking about a Joni overkill till this came. His best work till date. Good work Joni

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Originally posted by superironmonkey Is it just me or does the Original Mix sounds a bit like Nathan Fake's Outhouse in a way?

exactly! and Nathan's track sounds better although it was produced 3 years ago...

i really like the harding remix, it seems a step above the usual McProg trance. It's a very intriguing melody, I like it. And I don't mind the twinkles, not on this song anyways.

Love the Original mix, Niklas has been producing some superb stuff lately but dnt think his remix really captures the nice dark melody of the original. having waited for about 6 months to get the track it's great to finally have it on vinyl and be able to spin it.

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