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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy That gemini equipment will most likely break down on you soon.

how long is soon

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Originally posted by Dervish Yeah but used technics arn't always the little work horses they apear to be.... isn't that right est?

Hehe, yup I was stung a bit. One deck had a cracked tonearm - unnoticeable until taken apart, but made slip cueing extremely difficult. They are servicable mahcines though - there are several shops in my area that advertise technics repairs (don't say anything about other models) and parts are easy to get hold of when they break (which is not very often).

I spent a lot of money on equipment early on, but there was a good reason for that. I was on the edges of the EDM scene, and only knew about the most popular music. As I learned about the music, my tastes changed faster than I could keep up. Records I'd bought only 2 weeks ago were already behind. So, whilst my colleciton was still small, I began setting all my money aside for equipment whilst I listened to more DJs, went clubbing more, and learned. Now, I've got an excellent setup and a growing collection, but I've amassed some knowledge for me to be able to records that I won't hate by next week. I think I did the right thing - it worked for me. Different for everyone though.

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Originally posted by Dervish Is this based on any particular facts? Or experiance?

Iv played with a gemini mixer that was under a year old and it sounded crap and the faders where leaking.
Anyone who has used gemini equipment will basicaly tell you it will break down.
Im not just bringing Gemini down but you get what you pay for.

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Originally posted by harriz Dude honestly trust me it's all about the practice. Dont listen to the fools on here. If you practice for long hours and learn to use the the stuff you got you will be able to mix better than bedroom djs with cdj 1000s and fancy fuckin 2000$ mixers coz you will be all skillz !

Dude, you just gave me the courage, thanks a lot harriz.

Ok, Does everyone here thinks that Numark TT1650 is better than the Gemini TT-02? they are almost the same price, so i can afford numark. Let me know asap if you guys think the numark is a better choice, so i can call the shop and let them change my order.



or Numark TT200 then i will be in debt. but atleast they wont die on me soon.

i was mucking about on a store's demo gemini mixer when the left channel fader crapped out on me. i nearly had to pay for the damn thing.

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Originally posted by superglo i was mucking about on a store's demo gemini mixer when the left channel fader crapped out on me. i nearly had to pay for the damn thing.

That there is perfect for all those people who say gemini is not that bad.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy That there is perfect for all those people who say gemini is not that bad.

Yeah but their mixers are a different story to their decks though. I wouldn't buy:

Mixers
Headphones
PA stuff

But if you buy their better decks they are fine (or atleast they used to be when I played on them).

Stanton also do decent decks.

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Originally posted by x_moe or Numark TT200 then i will be in debt. but atleast they wont die on me soon.

dont get the 200's, theyr not worth getting into debt over

personally id go for the Gemini! but at the end of the day if youve got 2 decks a mixer and some vinyl im sure youl be happy!

everyone here is confusing me with their different opinions, im gona stop asking about what im buying, im just gona buy wutever and experience myself



Now, whos gona help me figure out a Dj Name, throw names at me people

I suggest actually learning to mix before you even start to think about pointless things like DJ names.

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Originally posted by x_moe everyone here is confusing me with their different opinions, im gona stop asking about what im buying, im just gona buy wutever and experience myself

Exactly - just do some research, then do whatever what you think is right, and you'll be fine

hey guys, i started looking for trance vinyls, can anyone tell me a good website where i can actually listen to the tracks on the vinyls before buying them

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Originally posted by x_moe hey guys, i started looking for trance vinyls, can anyone tell me a good website where i can actually listen to the tracks on the vinyls before buying them

This is my personal bias you don't have to swear by it but what I consider best record stores for dj vinyl are




www.satelliterecords.com

Best layout realy good selection.Free shipping on all orders over 60
online samples for new releases

cons no samples for their back catalogue.

www.dancerecords.com

The most sponsored one:
Type anything for jeff mills too bullshit hed kandi this shop will pop up.
What I guess you know that already...

Pros:
- if you sign up for their mailing list they give you
artist alerts and label alerts
So when for example ''josh wink'' puts out a track
you will know right away by email if you set to receive alerts for ''josh wink''.
-free ship over 50$
-samples for their entire catalogue.
Cons :
-Records stay in stock for very little as this is the prefered record shop of the general public.
low bitrate samples
-will fill your email box in seconds (I guess thats a good thing)

www.breakbeatscience.com

For all your jungle needs.
Great shop ,great service,great dnb tunes!Bigup!


Plastic fantastic :

-pros :
-upfront promos way before anyware else.
-Hot breaks good tech house

cons
-stupid prices.
Too much ''progressive'' that doesn't sound ''progressive''.
Especially the ones they rant about (hot limited sasha favorite!!!!) will put you too sleep faster than a government class in 7:30 in the morning.


Deejay.de
http://ra.deejay.de/frames/frame_de.asp?bei=ra&id=STARTSEITE&ab=Heute
pros:
-The best record store in the world in my book.
Amazing selection good prices quality service!
If international shipping bills where no issue for me this would be my exclusive record shop .
-The people who own it are German!!
-They speak in German!!
-They are from germany!!

Cons

So many good records that you wont know what to get

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Originally posted by x_moe Dude, you just gave me the courage, thanks a lot harriz.

i remember people telling me that when i first started...

one thing no one ever told me was that you better one hell of programmer to make up for the lack of technical skill, because the equipment is not good enough to allow you to grow into a complete and well rounded dj.

here are a couple of pics of the crud i started with. hopefully i will never go back:

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Originally posted by sr126 i remember people telling me that when i first started... one thing no one ever told me was that you better one hell of programmer to make up for the lack of technical skill, because the equipment is not good enough to allow you to grow into a complete ....and well rounded dj...bla bla bla...

Bollocks as the say in England...

I would really like if he got his equip practiced for hours learned how to ride the pitch and make those mixes tick, and got further than all you over opinionated people
that think everybody has a fortune to spend on whatever gear you are being marketed upon...


some twats here....

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Originally posted by harriz Bollocks as the say in England... I would really like if he got his equip practiced for hours learned how to ride the pitch and make those mixes tick, and got further than all you over opinionated people that think everybody has a fortune to spend on whatever gear you are being marketed upon... some twats here....

more than anything, i would like it for him to NOT scrape the bottom of the barrel like i did. you don't need top of the line equipment to start. but don't start w/utter garbage like i did.

if he got a crap mixer like i did, how is supposed to learn how to properly match his levels? w/eq on each channel he can make more mixes possible because he will be able to cut the bass on a track to avoid clashing... even w/crappy direct drives, you can spend A LOT more time working the fader properly for smooth mixing, and actually enjoy being a dj instead of constantly riding the pitch on a crap belt drive that will never really be steady x2.

i don't have a "fortune" to spend, it took me the better part of an entire year to upgrade my set up. it was worth the wait for me.

i appreciate the caring here... but im not starting out with a belt drive tables, they are direct, but crap i guess. im buying this mixer

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I'd say if it takes you years to save up for "technics rah rah rah" whats the point get stuck in.

I recon some people are compensating for lack of skill by thinking your equipement makes you a better dj than someone who has worse decks.

equipment doesn't always equal good beatmatching
good beatmatching doesn't always equal good mixing
good mixing even doesn't always equal a good dj

But if you have the time and money then why not get the better equipment? The equipment that you know is more reliable, sounds better coming out of the speakers, and will have a greater chance of being in a club or somewhere else if you decide to play out in a club/lounge/party. To me, it just makes sense, plain and simple. But, if you don't have the time, money, or care to get those things then yeah, whatever makes you happy!

But to sit there and say that a Numark turntable is just as good as a Technic one, well...

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT But if you have the time and money then why not get the better equipment? The equipment that you know is more reliable, sounds better coming out of the speakers, and will have a greater chance of being in a club or somewhere else if you decide to play out in a club/lounge/party. To me, it just makes sense, plain and simple. But, if you don't have the time, money, or care to get those things then yeah, whatever makes you happy!

BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOOL! You make out like having a set of technics somehow makes you a DJ it I can assure you does not. In fact I'd recomend to anyone starting out to not get technics and a huge mixer at the start if they haven't tried it thats just plain stupid!

If you were gonna start playing the guitar would you before you know how to play buy a:

a) �1000 one?

b) �400 one?

Then when you consider every peney you spend on your fancy decks is less records to play on them whats the point?

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But to sit there and say that a Numark turntable is just as good as a Technic one, well...

Firstly when did I say anything near to that?
Secondly it is a matter of opinion.

I'm gonna start flaming here (I never do that but this is so stupid).

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Originally posted by Dervish BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOOL! You make out like having a set of technics somehow makes you a DJ it I can assure you does not. In fact I'd recomend to anyone starting out to not get technics and a huge mixer at the start if they haven't tried it thats just plain stupid! If you were gonna start playing the guitar would you before you know how to play buy a: a) �1000 one? b) �400 one? Then when you consider every peney you spend on your fancy decks is less records to play on them whats the point? Firstly when did I say anything near to that? Secondly it is a matter of opinion. I'm gonna start flaming here (I never do that but this is so stupid).

Way to be immature and start name calling. And yeah, your logic makes no sense. If you have the money then yes you get the better equipment. The equipment that you would eventually be investing in anyway so that way you aren't waisting money. As far as the second quote, you might as well save the rest of your typing and just come out and say that. Way to turn this conversation into a flame fest.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT The equipment that you know is more reliable, sounds better coming out of the speakers, and will have a greater chance of being in a club or somewhere else if you decide to play out in a club/lounge/party.

not all club/lounge/partys' have techs, and if you stick to techs all the time and turn up to play on say Numark, Stantons or Vestax then your fucked! theyrs a pretty noticeable deference between having a +/- 8% and +/- 10%. if youre not used to having played on 10% then your gonna struggle big time, but going from a 10 to 8 your gonna have a much easier time!

im not saying dont buy techs', just realise that if you do you better make sure you have experience on other decks too before you even think about hitting the clubs!!

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Originally posted by wee_rooney not all club/lounge/partys' have techs, and if you stick to techs all the time and turn up to play on say Numark, Stantons or Vestax then your fucked! theyrs a pretty noticeable deference between having a +/- 8% and +/- 10%. if youre not used to having played on 10% then your gonna struggle big time, but going from a 10 to 8 your gonna have a much easier time! im not saying dont buy techs', just realise that if you do you better make sure you have experience on other decks too before you even think about hitting the clubs!!

Absolutely.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Way to be immature and start name calling. And yeah, your logic makes no sense. If you have the money then yes you get the better equipment. The equipment that you would eventually be investing in anyway so that way you aren't waisting money. As far as the second quote, you might as well save the rest of your typing and just come out and say that. Way to turn this conversation into a flame fest.

IF.... but he does't! I don't get the second part.

This isn't a conversation I'm trying to inform you. You have no point aside from "technics are the best". That is one of my highest pet peaves.

EDIT: By that I mean you are blinded by the equipment. The equipment is just a tool nothing else. You don't NEED technics it is just a brand you have not bought a lifestyle....

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