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Originally posted by shanny

That is insane. I would die if I ate that.

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Originally posted by Skipper At a high level, the balance of existing animal "inventory" at farms/slaughter hourses would be processed as it would have anyways.

I'm not sure I follow.... all live stock would be slaughtered despite the total lack of demand for meat? Who does PETA suspect will pay to transport the stock to the slaughter houses or slaughter them?

Anyone want to advice about any meat, I would happy to help them I have 5 years experience as a meat cutter...I'm not one anymore but I still love all beef, chicken, pork or fish.
PM me for advice.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm not sure I follow.... all live stock would be slaughtered despite the total lack of demand for meat? Who does PETA suspect will pay to transport the stock to the slaughter houses or slaughter them?

I think we're talking about different things. PETA doesn't assume the DEMAND for meat will disappear. but I expect if meat were going to be phased out of the food chain, the remaining animals left would be slaughtered as planned and consumed as planned, instead of pushing them out into the wild.

I don't think that even PETA considers this to be a realistic scenario to shoot for though. However, what most vegetarian and animal rights associations strive for is awareness. Awareness of the health consequences and environmental consequences. PETA chooses to use extreme shock tactics in their campaigns to do this.

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Originally posted by Cuzo Anyone want to advice about any meat, I would happy to help them I have 5 years experience as a meat cutter...I'm not one anymore but I still love all beef, chicken, pork or fish. PM me for advice.

Frank speaks the truth.

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Originally posted by Skipper but I expect if meat were going to be phased out of the food chain, the remaining animals left would be slaughtered as planned and consumed as planned, instead of pushing them out into the wild. I don't think that even PETA considers this to be a realistic scenario to shoot for though. However, what most vegetarian and animal rights associations strive for is awareness. Awareness of the health consequences and environmental consequences. PETA chooses to use extreme shock tactics in their campaigns to do this.

I beg to differ... a PETA member will disagree with you. An immediate stop is the only option... slowly ending the food chain continues what PETA feels is senseless slaughter of animals. To them, it must stop now, and let all animals run free as they wish. Ask Ingrid Newkirk.

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Originally posted by Skipper The time, energy, money and environmental resources used *just* to raise animals for the sole purpose of slaughter boggles my mind when so many people are starving in the world.

I'm more boggled at the amount of food being wasted and dumped when many people are starving.

-ET, proud member of PETA (People Enjoying Tasty Animals)

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Originally posted by EvilTree I'm more boggled at the amount of food being wasted and dumped when many people are starving. -ET, proud member of PETA (People Enjoying Tasty Animals)

How can you even say that when the biggest amount of food being wasted or dumped is animal products, or food being used to raise animals for slaughter?

Consider what we need to survive - we don't need meat to live. It is the only part of the diet that can be removed and replaced without any health consequences, aside from processed food items.

I don't understand your comment at all

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Originally posted by Skipper How can you even say that when the biggest amount of food being wasted or dumped is animal products, or food being used to raise animals for slaughter? Consider what we need to survive - we don't need meat to live. It is the only part of the diet that can be removed and replaced without any health consequences, aside from processed food items. I don't understand your comment at all

You're right Skipper, but clarification is required. We don't need it to live. However PETA only supports a vegan lifestyle. It only temporarily tolerates vegetarians because it's an improvement over omnivores. Vegans MUST suppliment their diet through vitamin and nutritional supplements (www.vegansociety.com).

Agreed.

Don't get me wrong - I am very new to vegetarianism, and am incorporating it into my life at the rate that is comfortable and manageble to me. PETA goes wrong because it is SOOOO over the top, what they want from people and how they go about trying to change behaviour. Shocking images don't make people think as much as they make people turn away. It is silly, but people need to gently understand the consequences of their actions on this topic, and there are many other vegetarian awareness campaigns out there that are successful because they go about their business in a much more "tame" sort of way.

Personally I stopped eating meat as an experiment to see how meat was affecting my stomach problems that I was having - and I feel much better. But as I continue with it, I've done research into the other consequences of an animal diet and while I don't claim to be perfect, I think organizations like PETA need to recognize that even people's small changes (like mine - I still consume dairy, I haven't thrown out my leather purses) are making a difference.

sorry, that's my rant...

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Originally posted by shanny Now here this all meat lovers... In my good ole hometown of windsor their is a meat challenge. Anyone feeling like they would be up to this meat challenge, first think long and hard about it, then let me know and I will be happy to accompany you to the location...for encouragement purposes only though, no way in hell even I(an experienced meat eater)am brave enough to attempt this. For details please visit the website. http://www.bubis.org/bundas_big_v-8.htm

Josh I never did find a lunch date and I'm STILL craving Bubi's! Come home for a visit...I know you want to go to Bubi's! I'll even take the challenge hahaha

Bravo Skipper!

Personally, I had to do changes in my diet as well, as my cholesterol level was at a risky point of making me a heart attack candidate. I reduced my meat consumption dramatically, as I used to consume more of it than anything else on my plate. Everything is good in moderation, and anyone should eat whatever they desire that's legally available. It's extremism that's my beef.

AJ

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Originally posted by Skipper How can you even say that when the biggest amount of food being wasted or dumped is animal products, or food being used to raise animals for slaughter?

I have a beef (hah bad pun) against any sort of food wastage.

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Consider what we need to survive - we don't need meat to live. It is the only part of the diet that can be removed and replaced without any health consequences, aside from processed food items.

People don't need to wear fur coats at all, yet people wear it.

Issues is not a matter of survival of humans here; but a change of culture that's been part of human lifestyle ever since cavemen figured out that animals taste good, esp. over fire.

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I don't understand your comment at all

Neither do I! It's a wonder that I manage to get my point across to people at all.

I love chicken, turkey and many kinds of seafood...but gave up red meat about 3 years ago.

While I do miss the occassional Keg size Prime Rib dinner...I feel that it was a good decision for me...easier on the digestive system and animal fat is among the worst shit you can put in your body.

So for those lovers of red meat out there...moderation, lean cuts, etc...and you're good

PETA...meh...I don't advocate any "militant do-gooder" type of behaviour. Educate and let people make their own decisions. I think if everyone was aware of some meat industry practices, health issues such as hormones and other additives, etc...they would change their eating/buying habits a little bit.

for those thinking of becoming a vegetarian, or especially those thinking of going full-on vegan...really do some research beforehand. It's not just about protein (and whole proteins at that), but the various minerals (like iron) too that people get from meat.

Oh god I want a turducken so bad.

I'm fully aware of the meat industry practices, and frankly that doesn't bother me one bit. Delicious cows are delicious cows.

An interesting thing I learned just this past weekend is that soy products have a natural hormone in them that, in large quantities, can mess up a woman's natural hormone balance. crazy!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Oh god I want a turducken so bad.

I won't eat anything with turd in it.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Weber

Weber's are the shiznit!

I got my Mom a Weber One-Touch� Gold Charcoal Grill for her birthday.

http://www.weber.com/bbq/pub/grill/...cg_ot_g225.aspx



LONG LIVE THE GRILL!

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Originally posted by Abercrombie I won't eat anything with turd in it.

Chicken inside a duck inside a turkey.

All de-boned and entirely butterflied.

Soak the turkey in brine overnight.
Lay the turkey out.
Cover the butterflied turkey with the stuffing of your choice (cajun sausage stuffing, please).
Lay the duck down over that layer of stuffing.
Cover the butterflied duck with more stuffing.
Lay the chicken over that.
Cover chicken with stuffing.
Roll it up.
Roast it.
Enjoy the best thing in the universe.

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Originally posted by Skipper An interesting thing I learned just this past weekend is that soy products have a natural hormone in them that, in large quantities, can mess up a woman's natural hormone balance. crazy!

The estrogenic properties of soy can wreak havoc on men's fertility and also cause "accelerated brain aging" (in men).

I avoid soy whenever possible.

soy sauce?

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Originally posted by Ub3rBreaker love my cows

i'll take #18...that looks big enough

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Chicken inside a duck inside a turkey. All de-boned and entirely butterflied. Soak the turkey in brine overnight. Lay the turkey out. Cover the butterflied turkey with the stuffing of your choice (cajun sausage stuffing, please). Lay the duck down over that layer of stuffing. Cover the butterflied duck with more stuffing. Lay the chicken over that. Cover chicken with stuffing. Roll it up. Roast it. Enjoy the best thing in the universe.

Yeah, I googled it before I responded... it was an opportunity for a joke that I could not resist...

I never had turducken, but can't wait to sink my teeth into it one day. Is it a Dutch thing? It F'ing looks amazing!

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The estrogenic properties of soy can wreak havoc on men's fertility and also cause "accelerated brain aging" (in men). I avoid soy whenever possible.

indeed...in certain relatively significant quantities though, I've read?

men who's primary protein source is soy should be careful...I imagine it's easy to have a significant soy intake if you drink soy milk, eat a lot of soy products, use soy protein supplements, etc.

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Originally posted by arek soy sauce?

not a significant amount of soy at all...I'd be more concerned about the silly sodium content in most soy sauces

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Is it a Dutch thing? It F'ing looks amazing!

I believe it's actually a southern US thing. Deep south. Louisiana south. Dirty south. CAJUN CRAWDAD NOODLIN' SOUTH!

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