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Also M.I.K.E and Ti�sto used to take drugs in their youth; now they're completely against it...

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Originally posted by freeflow i think its pathetic that people need to take drugs to enjoy trance. this means that they dont actually like the music and need to be off their tits to have a good time. i love dance music and clubbing and never take drugs (i have tried e, but it didnt make me have a better time), i listen to it at any time of day and dont need drugs to 'enhance my experience'. i hate the stereotype that you have to be a pill head to like trance, this gives the genre and the scence a bad name and reputation.

What you say here is courageous and true !

This is a stupid argument, . People who don't take drugs are by definition naive and biased (and usually young and are trying to create some kind of identity for themselves by supporting certain viewpoints and beliefs to the point of blindly-stupid stubbornness).

back on topic please:

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from ResidentAdvisor.net So what about those drugs he mentioned earlier? Coming from the Netherlands where drug enforcement laws are considerably relaxed Armin laments, "It's a pity this music is so associated with drugs. A lot of people forget that this whole club is filled with young kids who just want to meet each other and have a great time, who just want to get drunk. I really don't think everyone is on drugs. Most people just come to enjoy the night. I'm sure of it."

That sounds like the typical Armin rhetoric.

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From 4clubbers.net With the decline in Dance music in the UK within the last year have u noticed that it�s the same in other countries that you DJ in? Germany is in a hard recession at the moment which means that everything there is slowing down at the, and not just the clubs, but all over the country. But I think in England the focus has shifted from being about the music onto what drugs are best. The magazines in England don�t support the clubs enough, all they talk about is what combination of drugs is best to get through the weekend and stupid gossip like that. They aren�t concentrating on finding new and interesting talent and supporting the clubs and the music. So if I were reading these magazines it wouldn�t make me want to go out to these clubs. I think that�s the problem with the UK and as long as this doesn't change I don�t think the dance scene will get any better. Whenever I play in the UK its always very busy and very energetic, so there�s defiantly not a slow down in those terms. I think it�s a slow down in the mass appeal that dance music has, or that it did have.

He sort of mentions drugs. Anyway. Just another quote for you. I�m sure you can find much more though. That�s just a few minutes of Googling.

Bah. I�m bored. I better go do some drugs.

Simple and straight answer, drugs made dance music.

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Originally posted by DJ_LG Take everything in moderation I say. Tabacco and Alcohol are the only legalised substances but they cause more problems than any other drug that I know of. And I reckon that it's down to abuse of that substance.

umm... try smoking 20 cigarettes in one day. then try doing 20 joints. and you say tobacco causes more problems. are you stupid?

are you guys really that bored???

WHO FUCKING CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARES?????????????????????

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Originally posted by PersianMafia umm... try smoking 20 cigarettes in one day. then try doing 20 joints. and you say tobacco causes more problems. are you stupid?

20 cigs / day = i feel like throwing up. out of breath. headache. no
appetite, sore throat. lungs hurt. cant sleep.

20 j's / day = really really stoned. major munchies. sleepy. amused.
in really good but lazy mood.


what was the arguement again ?

If you smoked 20 joints in one day you will be a mental midget in no time

The stuff up here is pretty good, dont know what kind of crap you smoke, but excess use of weed is worse then tobacco imo

he probably meant to say that tobacco is more dangerous than weed. smoking tobacco is so dangerous that it kills ppl that dont smoke tobacco. second hand smoke, third hand smoke.... and i kinda agree with alcohol bein worst than some drugs, not by what it does to your body, but how fucked up it gets you. it isnt cool anymore when some ppl dont just drink to get in a good mood, but drink to get totally smashed and do fucked up things that they wont remember the next day.

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Originally posted by superglo 20 cigs / day = i feel like throwing up. out of breath. headache. no appetite, sore throat. lungs hurt. cant sleep. 20 j's / day = really really stoned. major munchies. sleepy. amused. in really good but lazy mood. what was the arguement again ?

Try doing that everyday for a year. Then come and talk to me.

20 joints/day/week/month/year is FAR MORE fatal than any copious amounts of tobacco. Only reason why more people die of tobacco is because its much more easily accessible, more efficient in that it keeps your conscience straight, and its alot easier to abuse and use tobacco excessively while living a working life.

You can't honestly believe joints are less harmful than cigarettes.

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Originally posted by Tayfoon If you smoked 20 joints in one day you will be a mental midget in no time The stuff up here is pretty good, dont know what kind of crap you smoke, but excess use of weed is worse then tobacco imo

i'm not saying everyday.
just smoke 20j's on 1 day
and
20 cigs on another.
which one leaves you feeling crappier ?

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Originally posted by dj christian Simple and straight answer, drugs made dance music.

what a load of bollocks. i have loads of mates who love many different stles of dance music and none of them take drugs, we actually like the music itself and dont need any stimulant to tolerate it, which it seems a lot of you suggest that you need to do here. i do hate it when i tell people i like dance music and clubbing and they expect me to get completely mashed every week and believe i only have half a brain cell.

It is always the first question you get from an outsider when they find out where you were last weekend, "are you an e-head?". It does get annoying.

But it is grounded in truth, I would say more than half the faces I see and most of these parties have dialated pupils, the sober kids are the exceptions, the drug users are the rule. Everyone seems to condone it. Just try to observe the proportions while you are out one night, obviosly you wont be able to judge every single person but you should get some idea for the ratio of sober to not sober. With so many people using stuff, is it any wonder that everyone assumes the whole crowd is doing it?

What happens if I take drugs and don't enjoy trance.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps What happens if I take drugs and don't enjoy trance.

BAN!

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Originally posted by beats and beeps What happens if I take drugs and don't enjoy trance.

then try country music

lets face it if you don;t at least try drugs your an ignorant f*ck!

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Originally posted by sikrav lets face it if you don;t at least try drugs your an ignorant f*ck!

why?

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Originally posted by suneel on a side note some psy/goa tracks sound really bad because the artist basically created them when he/she was high, and when a normal person hears them , they really suck.

hahahahaa- sure like 50 years ago, but as for todays psy guys? NOT TRUE, i guess your not listening to the right psytrance/goa if you think it all sucks...

My take is either you do it or not, criticism not needed. Some people like to jump off airplanes, others like drawings, and some like taking drugs. Let them do it and if they hurt someone else in the process, then they deserve the suitable punishment and put the spotlight back on more important matters

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Originally posted by sikrav lets face it if you don;t at least try drugs your an ignorant f*ck!

wow thats not true at all. ive been to tons of shows and i have never touched extacy. i dont consider myself ignorant at all. i think you are ignorant for assuming all people need to at least try drugs to expand their mind. the reason why i dont do it is because i see people like you at clubs doped out of your mind. i say "shit, i dont wanna turn out like that scumbag"

candy kids anyone?

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Originally posted by DjConfessions candy kids anyone?

candy, mmmmmmmmmmmm..... my favourite

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Originally posted by eye_03 the reason why i dont do it is because i see people like you at clubs doped out of your mind. i say "shit, i dont wanna turn out like that scumbag"

That is EXACTLY what i think!

for every scumbag doped out of their mind that you notice, there are like five who are only moderately doped and can almost pass off as regular people, except they are much more willing to dance.

My observations while partying indicate that the overwhelming majority gets fucked up, but most people do something like an E pill every month, and on their other outings they just get drunk or take a pain killer or some weed or something. So periodically they get wildly fucked up and look like an assclown, but between those times they get less fucked up, mostly just drink and smoke to loosen their inhibitions a little.

I notice only a few people who show up stone cold sober, and they usually only do that sometimes, like when they are low on money. What I am sure of though, is that the majority of EDM fans have contacts in the drug peddling industry, they all know somebody, or know somebody who knows somebody, they all seem to have access to stuff, and almost all of them seem to do drugs, but most of them do not do drugs every time they go out. You definately notice the types who overindulge, but it seems most people are smarter about it, not getting obnoxiously fucked up but also not being stone cold sober.

When I watch the crowd the people who are 100% sober really stand out, the people who are dancing are either all sweaty clumsy and drunk, or all dialated and hyper and stimulated, but the stone cold sober people just stand around and nod their heads a bit. Most people dancing are at least a little bit drunk, the people too fucked up are usually tucked in a corner somewhere or making an ass of themselves in front of the dj booth.

It is alot of fun just observing the crowds, if you are familiar with what specific drugs do to you you can look at them and figure out what they are on and how much they have taken.

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Originally posted by PersianMafia umm... try smoking 20 cigarettes in one day. then try doing 20 joints. and you say tobacco causes more problems. are you stupid?

are you? do you honestly think one joint is comparable to one cig?

of course 20 (high quality) joints a day are going to fuck you up more than 20 cigs in the long term but you seem to be forgetting a few vital factors here; a pack of 20 cigs is what... �3-4? you could get one joint out of that, maybe two. to add to that, the cigs are clinically addictive, unlike weed,.. so even if your stoner is loaded & can afford 20 joints a day, the likelyhood is they won't feel the need to.

so if you base the comparison on the rough average useage rates, i'd wager that the cigs are more likely to cause problems

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