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Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 07:32:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
Isn't Iran in bed with Hezbollah?


wasnt U.S in bed with Bin laden in the past?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 07:32:

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Originally posted by Q5echo
shut up.


Is that the best you can do?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 07:35:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
well if Iran is Hezbollah. Hezbolla is Iran and it's the armed hand of the Mullahs, like you say...why is everyone bitching? Do these people want terrorists with nukes?. It's so silly how much these kids on here hate America.


ya Iran is truly a terrorist country since they attack and kill innocent people around the world.

when will you yanks stop calling everyone terrorists ffs?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 07:39:

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
What's scarier is this liberal belief that nukes in the hands of a mad-man only makes things 'globally fair' and then in the same breath, turn around and blame the West because of it...


Is it fair for Isreal to have them?please explaing why they should be allowed?for protection?why cant Iran have them for them same reason then?

LoL at madman.pleeeease the media is trying to create another monster out of this president.Fact is 85% of the people support him and voted for him so are you saying 85% of the Iranian people are mad too?


Posted by Lemonad on Apr-14-2006 07:40:

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
so, after being tried for treason, sentenced to 3 years in prison and placed under house arrest when he was released, the british govt only then bothered to murder him? if you say so. the guy was almost 85 years old and i love it how youre ruling out natural causes.


refer back to my comment about Shah's murder by the government of Britain, you don't hear it that way on information sites such as wikipedia, but ever Iranian knows the real truth.

Natural causes, hah, sorry, but that was quite funny.

quote:
Originally posted by deprivation
Iran needs to be stopped now and not just by the U.S. Iran is a dangerous country that supports terrorism, threatens to destroy Israel, and let's not forget the American hostages taken in the late 1970's.

If ever there was a country to be attacked for having WMD's, then Iran is it. The President even admits openly about nuclear capabilities and ignores the U.N. telling them not to expand their nuclear testing.



See the problem lies here, i doubt you even know why Iran was called a terrorist nation in the first place, because they supported Hezbollah. In western eyes, any threat to themselves or Israel is quickly realised as a terrorist concern. In Middle eastern eyes, America is a terrorist for supporting Israel but of course your going to deny it because Bush says so.

i see it so funny when opposition against America is brought up, were being evil. Nice going guys!

First off, it's all scare tactics that America is trying to do, and Iran knows this. Second of all, most oil exports from most of the middle eastern reserves travel through the Persian Gulf, which Iran can easily block and America knows it can but is hoping it doesn't, politicians all know this. There was even a great interview about this on TV.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 07:49:

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Originally posted by deprivation
Iran needs to be stopped now and not just by the U.S. Iran is a dangerous country that supports terrorism, threatens to destroy Israel, and let's not forget the American hostages taken in the late 1970's.



There are many counries that would love to destroy Isreal and Iran is one of them.why not go after them?

But yeah they are very evil since they took those hostages 30 years ago. those were the times of revolution and your government was resposible for the revolution.

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If ever there was a country to be attacked for having WMD's, then Iran is it. The President even admits openly about nuclear capabilities and ignores the U.N. telling them not to expand their nuclear testing.



what about North Korea?they have openly said many times that they will use their nukes.Iran has no nukes and there is no proof that they are going after bombs.

you are an idiot really.WHAT NUCLEAR TESTINGS are you speaking of?do you know something that we dont?

If Iran gets attacked mark my words you will not be any safer.your precious soldiers in Iraq will get raped and Isreal will become a war zone.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 07:55:

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Originally posted by tiesto14
I think my little nephew can sum up this arguement like this:

MY NEPHEW:: Why does the news say we might go to war with Iran?
ME:: Because Iran might make missiles that can kill millions of people and they hate us and Israel and are involved with terrorists.
MY NEPHEW:: So they are bad guys, like on TV?
ME:: Yes!!
MY NEPHEW:: Well bad guys shouldnt have missiles like that.

And he is 7!


you are both fuckin idiots for believing the lies that the media is feeding you.They are making a monster out of Iran.

RUN KIDS RUN IRAN IS COMING TO RAPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES!!!!

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Seems like HardCore and the rest of people who are opposing this are just riding on the America is evil and Bush is Hitler band wagon. It is so chic to hate America right now so they feel they are in the know..what i like to call a trend follower..and they call us sheep? HA!


Yup you are right 100% we all hate America just to look cool.Get some fuckin brain and open your eyes and see who is the real threat here.



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Funny thing is, if this was the almighty Clinton proposing this they would rally behind him and support it 100%....it is so sickening.


It is sick and disturbing to see how once again America is falling for lies and bullshits from this admin.


Posted by Q5echo on Apr-14-2006 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
wasnt U.S in bed with Bin laden in the past?

yes.

once again, you are way off base when you think you have an argument.

...but enlighten us on how you think those two have anything in relation to one another.

i sincerely, with all my faith in the youth of Canada, want you to tell me how it is. bitch-slap me with knowledge. get all Occrider on my ass with your Iran/Hezbollah/Bin Laden/America circlejerk theory.

i'm dead serious. make me look like the old fool you think i am


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 08:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yes.

once again, you are way off base when you think you have an argument.

...but enlighten us on how you think those two have anything in relation to one another.


your government works with the so called terrorists all the time when it is for their own intentions.



Hezbullah is not a terrorists organizaion.It is according to the U.S but then again everyone is a terrorists if they are against them or Isreal.


conclusion,before going and calling everyone terrorists come and take a look at your own government first and you will see that they are roots of of problems that we have today in that region.


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i sincerely, with all my faith in the youth of Canada, want you to tell me how it is. bitch-slap me with knowledge. i'm dead serious. make me look like the old fool you think i am.



Me and others have done that many times in the past and will continue to do so but whats the point really?talking to you is like trying to talk to a wall.


Posted by Q5echo on Apr-14-2006 09:04:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
your government works with the so called terrorists all the time when it is for their own intentions.
Bin Laden was not a terrorist 1984. as far as anyone knows including his family.

why were we helping the Afghan Mujahadeen? mind you, a full three years before the CIA knew who Bin Laden was.



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Hezbullah is not a terrorists organizaion.It is according to the U.S but then again everyone is a terrorists if they are against them or Isreal.

WRONG!!! the European Union (you know the EU right?) voted almost unanimously (473 to 8) in Mar 10, 2005 to declare Hezbollah a terrorist organization and freeze all assets under EU law. that was the word they used in the resolution. terrorists


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Many and others have done that many times and will continue to do so but whats the point really?talking to you is like trying to talk to a wall.

fair enough. don't say i never gave you a chance. you don't get many.


in addition, i just want you to know that i'm hawkish about a lot of things-communism, terrorism, Francoism, but not Iran.
i do not believe, barring some suicidal move on their part, this president will invade/occupy or whatever it is you think he'll do.
what this president has done though, is he has now isolated them from the worlds mainstream of democratic thought. it's tenuous. it's a fluid situation. and Bush has got his nuts out there for all the world to kick if they so desire, but the ball is now in the Mullahs court and they know that not only is the whole world looking at Bush's nut-sack they got one eye trained on them as well.


Posted by LazFX on Apr-14-2006 09:26:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer


Many and others have done that many times and will continue to do so but whats the point really?talking to you is like trying to talk to a wall.


Talking to you is like trying to explain to an blind, ignorant, redneck about the benifits of taking a shower..... they just don't get it.


FOAD you little terror lover


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 09:56:

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Originally posted by LazFX
Talking to you is like trying to explain to an blind, ignorant, redneck about the benifits of taking a shower..... they just don't get it.


oh please dont get me started to with the name calling.I can go on and on about you and your stupid shithole of a state called Texas.


quote:
FOAD you little terror lover



If supporting my country makes me a terrorist then be it.

Now run before I come and take your freedom.


Posted by LazFX on Apr-14-2006 10:04:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
oh please dont get me started to with the name calling.I can go on and on about you and your stupid shithole of a state called Texas.
If supporting my country makes me a terrorist then be it.

Now run before I come and take your freedom.



I will tell you where I live and map quest instructions if you really want to try to climb up to my level.


But I thought you lived in Canada?? Are there Candian terror squads that want to take my freedom??

Or you like one of these "Mexicans" down here in texas. Illegal in Canada??

You are such an idiot, and what sucks... is that you know you are.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Apr-14-2006 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Is it fair for Isreal to have them?please explaing why they should be allowed?for protection?why cant Iran have them for them same reason then?

LoL at madman.pleeeease the media is trying to create another monster out of this president.Fact is 85% of the people support him and voted for him so are you saying 85% of the Iranian people are mad too?


Are you for real?
Just click on ANY of the links I provided and explain to us again why in the world a U.S.-hating, terrorist-sponsoring, genocide-threatening, Nuke-seeking, Holocaust-denying, homosexual-executing theocracy should have a nuke again???

These arguements aren't the brain-child of the media, they came from the self-rightous, holier than thou, aura surrounded mouth of the great Iranian know it all....
...and you want to give this guy NUKES???

God help us all if that day ever comes and he's still in power...


Posted by deprivation on Apr-14-2006 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Is it fair for Isreal to have them?please explaing why they should be allowed?for protection?why cant Iran have them for them same reason then?

LoL at madman.pleeeease the media is trying to create another monster out of this president.Fact is 85% of the people support him and voted for him so are you saying 85% of the Iranian people are mad too?


I'm glad you're not in charge. We all and this includes you would be beheaded by terrorists or attacked with nuclear weapons and killed.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Apr-14-2006 18:24:

Jesus! I've never seen such a bunch of scared dilusional fools in my life. Thanks for devestating Iraq, possibly Iran in the near future too, increasing the threat of terrorism, supporting psychotic fundamentalist regimes like Saudi Arabia, creating Al-Q in the first place, and destroying our civil liberties and the constitution guys! Bravo! Keep listeing to the media and administration that has been constantly lying to you, manufacturing evidence, and flip flopping stance on/justification for the Iraq War more that Karey ever possibly could. Forget the fact that even prominent figures from the intelligence agencies have spoken out against this administrations lies and policies, and ultimately resigned in frustration/disgust. Keep buying all the lies and then later calling policies "mistakes," give up all your liberties so you're "safe." It couldn't have happened without you guys. Thanks for intiating the transformation of "the land of the free" to "the police state." I had no clue totalitarianism was "freedom." Your fear, apathy, and passiveness made it all possible.

EDIT: I will continue to excercise my right to rant about the state of this fucked up world and patheticaly easily manipulated species called the human race while I still have the right to freedom of speech and expression.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Apr-14-2006 18:51:

Yes, the American administration is wacked but the Iran adminstration is just damn right scary!
Who goes around talking about blowing Isreal (or ANY country for that matter) off the map? Seriously...


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 18:52:

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
These arguements aren't the brain-child of the media, they came from the self-rightous, holier than thou, aura surrounded mouth of the great Iranian know it all....
...and you want to give this guy NUKES???




Looks like the fear game is working fine on you.you are right Iran is the big evil and we should be shiting our pants.
and those so called link of yours,would you like me to show you other countries that even worst then Iran when it comes to human rights?you think Iran is the only country that denies holocaust?

For he love of god look at the big picture and see why Iran would want to have nukes in the first place,They dont want to have them to destroy the world.
Iranians arent a bunch of poor arabs that the media is making you think they are.These people are one of the smartest people with lots of values and they are far from terrorists but I promise you that they will retaliate big time if the U.S tries to fuck with them and willl fight with all they have.



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God help us all if that day ever comes and he's still in power...



wow you are one fuckin paranoid person.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 18:56:

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Who goes around talking about blowing Isreal (or ANY country for that matter) off the map? Seriously...


But lets look at the facts here.When was the last time in the last 20 years that they attacked another country?

why arent you worried about North Korea ffs?these guys are fucked and I dont see anyone doing anything about them and their missiles can reach North America bte.
why isnt that scaring you?THEY HAVE THE NUKES RIGHT NOW.Why arent they getting attention? is it because they are no threat to Isreal ?


Posted by Fir3start3r on Apr-14-2006 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer


Looks like the fear game is working fine on you.you are right Iran is the big evil and we should be shiting our pants.
and those so called link of yours,would you like me to show you other countries that even worst then Iran when it comes to human rights?you think Iran is the only country that denies holocaust?

For he love of god look at the big picture and see why Iran would want to have nukes in the first place,They dont want to have them to destroy the world.
Iranians arent a bunch of poor arabs that the media is making you think they are.These people are one of the smartest people with lots of values and they are far from terrorists but I promise you that they will retaliate big time if the U.S tries to fuck with them and willl fight with all they have.






wow you are one fuckin paranoid person.


Iran doesn't want nukes huh?
Then why don't have an open door policy on that and PROVE it to the world? Why are they constantly denying the U.N. inspections? Actions speak louder than words my friend.

The world has a right to be suspicious when anyone who denies the holocaust and openly talks about wiping a country off the map, hell, they even had a conference on it! But I guess you didn't get that memo...

Hey look, it's your buddy...and look, what's that poster in front of him? Yea, I'm REAL fucking paranoid because the media made this shit up...



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The antipathy of the Iranian regime to Zionism and Israel has never been a secret, but it was not until the "World without Zionism" congress held in Iran, in anticipation of Al-Qods (Jerusalem) day, that extremist President Ahmedinejad announced the goal of wiping Israel off the map. Wiping out Israel is not alone on his agenda. Of course, nobody should have had any illusions about the purpose of a "World Without Zionism" conference and the fact that the President of Iran chose to address it, but his remarks caused quite a stir. He repeated the threat on Al-Qods day.

Israel is not the only country to wipe out. While he's at it, Ahmedinejad plans to get rid of the US too:

"... They [ask]: 'Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism?' But you had best know that this slogan and this goal are attainable, and surely can be achieved.


>>Source<<


and you sir, are delusional and falling for his agenda which he's clearly stated.
How blind can one be?


Posted by Fir3start3r on Apr-14-2006 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
But lets look at the facts here.When was the last time in the last 20 years that they attacked another country?

why arent you worried about North Korea ffs?these guys are fucked and I dont see anyone doing anything about them and their missiles can reach North America bte.
why isnt that scaring you?THEY HAVE THE NUKES RIGHT NOW.Why arent they getting attention? is it because they are no threat to Isreal ?


What? You don't think China won't keep them in check?
Does the States have to do everything??

Why drag NK into this anyways? We're not talking about them. You're deluting your arguements with this involvement...


Posted by WM2 on Apr-14-2006 19:28:

I'm leaning towards the idea that this guy is fucked in the head cause everytime he gets up behind a podium and has a bunch of microphones in his face he has to say something about destroying Israel. Yet his government is, "at the service of the people. It is a government of peace, justice and spirituality."


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Iran doesn't want nukes huh?
Then why don't have an open door policy on that and PROVE it to the world? Why are they constantly denying the U.N. inspections? Actions speak louder than words my friend.


Seems like history is about to repeat intself once again.They did let the inspectors in and there was no proof of the making any sort of bombs.

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The world has a right to be suspicious when anyone who denies the holocaust and openly talks about wiping a country off the map, hell, they even had a conference on it! But I guess you didn't get that memo...


you think Isreal wouldnt want to wipe of Iran off the map?just because you dont hear it doesnt mean they dont want to.
At least admit that this whole thing is once again about the safety of Isreal.Iraq was taken care of and now it is Irans turn.This time Both Isreal and the U.S will pay the price big time.

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Hey look, it's your buddy...and look, what's that poster in front of him? Yea, I'm REAL fucking paranoid because the media made this shit up...




ooh no he is soooooooooooo evil kill him kiiiiiiiiiill him!!!!lol


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and you sir, are delusional and falling for his agenda which he's clearly stated.How blind can one be?


you my friend are once again about to fall for another war of lies and propaganda how brainwashed can one be?

The only agenda here is that Bush is trying to convince the world once again that they are trying to save the world and Iran is a threat to their fuckin freedom.I say Bush is the threat to the world not Iran.


Posted by Q5echo on Apr-14-2006 21:19:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Thanks for devestating Iraq, possibly Iran in the near future too
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increasing the threat of terrorism
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supporting psychotic fundamentalist regimes like Saudi Arabia
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creating Al-Q in the first place
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destroying our civil liberties and the constitution
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media and administration that has been constantly lying to you
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manufacturing evidence
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give up all your liberties so you're "safe."
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intiating the transformation of "the land of the free" to "the police state."
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I had no clue totalitarianism was "freedom."

these posts sound more scared and paranoid than any of my posts and others here if you ask me.

must suck to live like that.

glad i'm ignernt
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EDIT: I will continue to excercise my right to rant about the state of this fucked up world and patheticaly easily manipulated species called the human race while I still have the right to freedom of speech and expression.

alright. but don't make me get on the horn to Rumsfeld and have you snatched up and taken to GITMO


Posted by hardcore trancer on Apr-14-2006 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by WM2
I'm leaning towards the idea that this guy is fucked in the head cause everytime he gets up behind a podium and has a bunch of microphones in his face he has to say something about destroying Israel.


good point lets go invade them and bring democracy to them. I mean if you are a threat to Isreal you must be destroyd.


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Yet his government is, "at the service of the people. It is a government of peace, justice and spirituality."


please your government is 10X worse then they are.


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