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^^^^ one person out of thousands died.... wow, sounds about as dangerous as walking across a street. All I can tell you for sure is that neither myself nor any of the people I know who were on this diet suffered ill-effects, we all lost a tremendous amount of weight in a short time, and most have kept it off for a significant number of years. I can't say that about people I know who participated in other weightloss programs.

Scientific research has consistently shown that losing weight too quickly places signficiant stress on your body. Have you ever read anything that states losing weight at that rate is good for you?

Sure you look good, but your body is freaking out on the inside. You are starving it!

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Originally posted by Nikitha I stopped drinking pop in grae 11... you would be surprized how much weight you lose just by cutting pop out of your diet.. i mean i enjoy a 7up now and again... but mostly all i drink is water.. or watered down juice ( usually half and half) and its a LOT better for your teeth if you cut out sugary drinks Nikki

yeah easier said then done i have like the biggest pop addiction EVER ! i drink like a case a day or a couple of 2L it's gross but i can't stop water just don't do it for me

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Originally posted by OrZonE Isn't it easier to eat right and stay active? Diets seem so unnecessary to me.

(+.. if i go on a diet... i would dissapear)

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Originally posted by Djsketchbag yeah easier said then done i have like the biggest pop addiction EVER ! i drink like a case a day or a couple of 2L it's gross but i can't stop water just don't do it for me

Man that is a LOT of pop! that is soooo bad for you!!
You def need to cut down at least! just start slowly man and you will notice a major difference in your weight and your skin TRUST me.. your skin gets soo much better without pop in your diet!
I guarentee that if you cut down things will get a lot easier to lose weight!

Nikki

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Originally posted by The Wiz I couldn't survive without bread, cheese and chocolate!

Me: I couldn't survive without bread and beer.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Me: I couldn't survive without beer.

I LOVE


FOOD!!!!!!!

no diets here but the South beach diet doesn't look so bad

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Originally posted by iLLnaDa I LOVE FOOD!!!!!!!

+1

atkins...bernstein(sp) and all that stuff is crap.

A proper balanced diet(deficit) with good food is all you need with exercise. youll lose weight, have energy and keep the wieght off. its all about a lifestyle change, not a quick diet to cut some pounds(only to put it back on in a year)

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Originally posted by Skipper Scientific research has consistently shown that losing weight too quickly places signficiant stress on your body. Have you ever read anything that states losing weight at that rate is good for you? Sure you look good, but your body is freaking out on the inside. You are starving it!

...hence the shots, doctors and nurses...

The body will need obvious help with people 'in the know' to pull something like this off.
If I was in that situation, I wouldn't have it any other way, otherwise that's just insane.
That's why I was so surprised to begin with when MH mentioned that amount of poundage drop; it's very dangerous to do alone and the body would go into shock without close medical supervision.

This is obviously NOT a route for everyone.

Genetics.

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Originally posted by Euphorica atkins...bernstein(sp) and all that stuff is crap. A proper balanced diet(deficit) with good food is all you need with exercise. youll lose weight, have energy and keep the wieght off. its all about a lifestyle change, not a quick diet to cut some pounds(only to put it back on in a year)

I think its very biased to say things like this...

There are tons of ppl who have very a difficult time losing weight.. due to lots of things, chemical imbalance, very slow metabolic rate, thyroid problems, mental disorders ( binge eating or over-eating)

a lot of ppl need the medical attention and sometimes medicines to help them lose weight.. along with exercise and eating right.. and yes although some of the things out there are fake or dangerous.. there are many things that do help these ppl with their weight problems that they have probably struggled with for many years..

I think its great that there are medicinal ways for ppl to lose weight.. using only these methods of course is wrong.. and everyone should live and active lifestyle.. and of course consult their doctor before taking any sort of marketed weight loss product.. but when you are dealing with someone who is very very over-weight and has trouble doing physical activity.. i think its great there is a way these ppl can lose the amount needed to get back up and be physical

Nikki

Way to go on the weightloss...I don't think I could ever give up ALL of my carbs, meat, dairy and sugar though!

i think i would stab someone if i couldn't have dairy, sugar, carbs or alcohol!!! everything in moderation, though.

Something that hasn't been mentioned is ensuring you're getting the recommended daily intake of calories, *good* fats, fibre and all the other good stuff. If you're not getting enough calories & nutrients, your body actually goes into starvation mode and stores as much as it can as fat.

I think portion control is what Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig and L.A. WeightLoss Centres (to name a few) advocate the hardest. And those kinds of controlled and non-extreme changes to eating habits and exercise can't be thought of as "diets" they should be lifestyle changes for a healthy life. Diets impky that eventually you go back to the way you were eating before you startd the diets which is BAD.

I ate those frozen meals (which actually aren't that bad) for like 2 weeks so I got an idea of what portion control was and trained myself to not overstuff myself. Now I make sure I get enough of the 5 food groups and have small healthy snack between meals. Haven't lost weight, but have been able to maintain it considering I sit on my butt 8 hours a day in front of a computer with limited physical activity. I'm not exercising which I know should - I'm just lazy
I try though...

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Originally posted by muzzybear Here's the link to some of the Weight Watchers Points system http://www.quiddity.cc/rachel/diet/wwfoods.htm

THANKS FOR THE LINK!!


And one more note: I LOVE FOOD too!!! You don't have to stop eating foods you love, just have to limit how much.

I put on quite a bit of weight after my 2 knee surgeries. The beers and steaks killed me

Basically i came home and did not want to take my shirt of at the beach so i figured it was time to do something about it. I became a nutritional freak. I learned everything there is to know about nutrition. I lost almost 60 lbs over a 2 year period. Ive maintained 4-5% body fat for 3 years. It helps that i play so much so i get rediculous excercise everyday but i also eat very healthy.

Bottom line is, make sure your weight loss is gradual. It is bad, very bad for your body to drop 30 pounds in a month.

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Originally posted by Tordan How do you motivate yourself to stick with it and not stray? It must take considerable will power to do this.

i went from 300+ lbs to 200 lbs, lost first 80 in under 5 months.

i tried bernstein diet and it worked till i stopped, then pounds came back with the vengeance lol. so i decided to do it on my own

what motivated me????

one night at system's back room, breaks, and conversation with one awesome girl

weight watchers points is just a ratio of fibre vs calories.

the basic foundation of all diets is input vs output, w/ atkins it's the idea that not eating carbs will make you feel more satiated and not make your blood sugar levels go all loopy, so you don't get crazing and binge etc.

I can't not eat carbs (espcially b/c I run), but i don't waste calories on regular pasta, white bread etc. I eat buckwheat noodles, whole wheat couscous and brown basmato rice. i do occasionaly splurge and have some refined carbs. I eat a lot of fish, fruit and vegtable and I have a lot of energy and feel pretty good physically for the most part.


The best thing anyone can do to learn about losing weight or maintaining weight is to understand nutrition and how the body works

this is a very good place to start:

http://home.howstuffworks.com/diet.htm

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Originally posted by Nikitha I think its very biased to say things like this... There are tons of ppl who have very a difficult time losing weight.. due to lots of things, chemical imbalance, very slow metabolic rate, thyroid problems, mental disorders ( binge eating or over-eating) a lot of ppl need the medical attention and sometimes medicines to help them lose weight.. along with exercise and eating right.. and yes although some of the things out there are fake or dangerous.. there are many things that do help these ppl with their weight problems that they have probably struggled with for many years.. I think its great that there are medicinal ways for ppl to lose weight.. using only these methods of course is wrong.. and everyone should live and active lifestyle.. and of course consult their doctor before taking any sort of marketed weight loss product.. but when you are dealing with someone who is very very over-weight and has trouble doing physical activity.. i think its great there is a way these ppl can lose the amount needed to get back up and be physical Nikki

yes , some people do have issues with losing weight but most give up WAY before giving it serious effort and trying to change their lifestyle. They dont want to. Its to hard for them to do/they are lazy.

Id rather for someone who has trouble losing to do gastric bypass then to do some of these cracked out diets out there. Sure its sugery but imo most of those diets are worse on your body long term.

Portion control is key and so is eating every 2.5-3 hrs throughout the day .

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Originally posted by Euphorica atkins...bernstein(sp) and all that stuff is crap. A proper balanced diet(deficit) with good food is all you need with exercise. youll lose weight, have energy and keep the wieght off. its all about a lifestyle change, not a quick diet to cut some pounds(only to put it back on in a year)

FYI, Bernstein is about a lifestyle change. They take great lengths following the weight loss to slowly re-introduce foods so that they can determine how you react to certain foods. Apparently, I have no problem with breads or rice but potatoes are my nemisis. The Bernstein diet is about teaching one how and what to eat as well as proper portion control. Once more, I lost over a hundred pounds in 4 month.... 6 years later and I haven't put it back on.

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Originally posted by Euphorica yes , some people do have issues with losing weight but most give up WAY before giving it serious effort and trying to change their lifestyle. They dont want to. Its to hard for them to do/they are lazy. Id rather for someone who has trouble losing to do gastric bypass then to do some of these cracked out diets out there. Sure its sugery but imo most of those diets are worse on your body long term. Portion control is key and so is eating every 2.5-3 hrs throughout the day .

Many people need the quick start to weight loss to keep them motivated....unless you have been extremely overweight you cannot understand the psychological issues involved in trying to loose weight. It has nothing to do with being lazy......for a lot of overweight people there is a feeling of not succeeding...especially if you grow up overweight. When you try and try again and don't see results then it just reinforces the thought that you are a failure. I give anyone who is overweight credit for trying to loose weight even if its one of these "cracked out diets".

As for the gastric bypass surgery.....you would rather just see people not being able to eat then to try and teach them proper eating habits. That is such an ass backwards comment for someone who is saying its all about proper eating.

Face it...people who haven't had to loose large amounts of weight cannot understand what is involved.....some people can loose weight by just eating right and exercise....heck.....I know people who eat nothing but fast food and don't exercise and still loose weight. There is no one way to loose weight....you have to find what works for you...I agree proper diet and exercise is key to healthy living but it is not always key to loosing weight.

^^^ Good point. What may work well for some, may not work for others. And there is no blanket regime that will work on everyone. That's probably one of the important steps to losing weight, you have to realize what works best for you and stick with it. And if something you try doesn't work, don't give up, just try something else.
And there will always be critics of diets and programs, etc.

I've never lost a large amount of weight, but I appreciate the motivation, drive and even sacrifice you have to make to feel good about yourself, inside and out.

I always thought walking was useless, since it seemed so inactive. After my summer job last year, in which I would walk about 3-4 kilometers a day over an 8 hour shift, I lost 10-15 pounds, dropping me down to 170. Going back to school over the winter, I didnt want to put the weight back on, so I maintained it by avoiding deep fried foods, and trying not to eat after 8pm.

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