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Originally posted by LuNaSeA yanny, did you read what else we posted about? (about modding not being policing..) haha thanx d-mind that's what we're really going for here- to help make the scene better

I did! The great thing about the higher up mods though, is that if you ask them, they'll work with you to edit our forum whichever the people see fit. Wicked Neo has helped me a lot in the Gaming Forum and we're starting to take it in direction where the gamers want it to be. No reason why he couldn't help us NYTAs, too!

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Originally posted by Yan I did! The great thing about the higher up mods though, is that if you ask them, they'll work with you to edit our forum whichever the people see fit. Wicked Neo has helped me a lot in the Gaming Forum and we're starting to take it in direction where the gamers want it to be. No reason why he couldn't help us NYTAs, too!

totally agreed but how much can he do in all honesty without making him feel like he has a full time job here on multiple forums....he seems like a swell guy...however, this is also why we need our own:

1> he's not an NYTA
2> he doens't know any NYTAs like we know each other
3> he doesn't know the nyc clubbing scene
4> he probably doesn't know much about nyc in general
(no offence here neo, just making a point)

Hehe, I'm actually down for the whole 'making it into a more tightly knit community' thing. I only have two or three freinds that enjoy going to these clubs on a regular basis (at least as often as I do), and I can clearly remember one or two nights when I had to go alone. This was before I knew any NYTAs, and though it was fun, it was a bit odd. So with that in mind, I suppose I'll change my previous position to being in favor of a new NYTA mod. I'm ambivalent as to who it is... EnigmaT, Dani, and Brian are all good choices in my book.

werd up (Y)

and (not trying to give myself a shameless plug here) you guys can see i did the NYTA Visitor's Thread...it took a shitload of time and effort to do but i took pride in doing it for the community, in all honesty. and not only is it good for visitors, it's a good thread with addresses/phone numbers/links/ideas of clubs/stores/restaurants, etc... something we can all use! and i really think that that thread is only a taste of what we can do for NYTA.

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA totally agreed but how much can he do in all honesty without making him feel like he has a full time job here on multiple forums....he seems like a swell guy...however, this is also why we need our own: 1> he's not an NYTA 2> he doens't know any NYTAs like we know each other 3> he doesn't know the nyc clubbing scene 4> he probably doesn't know much about nyc in general (no offence here neo, just making a point)

not to mention that we can take work off Neo's shoulder if we have actual modding here

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA totally agreed but how much can he do in all honesty without making him feel like he has a full time job here on multiple forums....he seems like a swell guy...however, this is also why we need our own: 1> he's not an NYTA 2> he doens't know any NYTAs like we know each other 3> he doesn't know the nyc clubbing scene 4> he probably doesn't know much about nyc in general (no offence here neo, just making a point)

All those things can be said for the gaming forum, too. I doubt he's a gamer (at least, he hasn't ever voiced himself if he is). You can't drop the idea till we try it, right? Let's ask Neo, himself.

I think everyone should be happy that this place has run so well without a mod. This the section of TA that is mature enough to run itself. Is that really a bad thing? We should be proud of that. Why hire a babysitter if we don't need one?

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Originally posted by EnigmaT I think everyone should be happy that this place has run so well without a mod. This the section of TA that is mature enough to run itself. Is that really a bad thing? We should be proud of that. Why hire a babysitter if we don't need one?

There are other reasons that a few people in this thread are trying to justify the need for a new mod/second mod. Read through the posts.

gmoney part 3 ftw (for the win)

why fix something if its not broken?

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA werd up (Y) and (not trying to give myself a shameless plug here) you guys can see i did the NYTA Visitor's Thread...it took a shitload of time and effort to do but i took pride in doing it for the community, in all honesty. and not only is it good for visitors, it's a good thread with addresses/phone numbers/links/ideas of clubs/stores/restaurants, etc... something we can all use! and i really think that that thread is only a taste of what we can do for NYTA.

this is exactly what i meant when i said NYTA should be more than just a large city with a bunch of parties and dani is one who I agree with completely on. What about all of us who have careers, graphic artist who never get to show their work?

we need to start treating NYTA as an avenue of resource instead just "a party look up message board" so many of us are talented here, djs producers artist designers business retail etc and we don't do anything to recognize it. Hell, I'd love to know who is working where...

Great example, another message board I'm on (sneaker site) I managed to get speaking terms with the owner of the site who advocated for a business forum, now I'm helping his sneaker magazine get featured in a New York Magazine Promo Gift Bag which is given out to young kids to try and compel them to come to a NY Mag Free Event.

We do nothing to that here yet we all have established identities, we are friends amongst friends, and we still live in this day in day out soap opera of a message board. Let's create some substance, something real, instead of always making coming to this about writing a review, who you saw last night, what tracks were played...that stuff can still exist but we need to expand our section into one of the leading sections on TA collectively.

I've also given some thought to the fact that maybe some don't want this to be proactive? Maybe it's fine the way it is because too much information might make this board too complicated? It might bring unwanted attention from users who believe they can come to our section and post their resume, post what they do, and just add to an already cluttered city/section.

I don't know, my main time frame on TA is during the work hours, it's always in the background and I always peek in to get away from my work. I admit that, just that with each peek in, i'm more compelled to hit another board (sneaker site) which has a bit more substance than our section. They talk about anything and everything which is why I'm on that site so much. They talk about where to shop for the latest and greatest, they post deals on the net about special coupons they receive and share it with everyone. Yea I'm not trying to make our section of NYTA into their message board, I'm just saying there are some characteristics outside of just a Music MSG Board that we can attribute to our section. I think it'll be good for us, I think it'll help us grow and give us a better identity to who we are and what we do.

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Originally posted by Yan All those things can be said for the gaming forum, too. I doubt he's a gamer (at least, he hasn't ever voiced himself if he is). You can't drop the idea till we try it, right? Let's ask Neo, himself.

I'm not saying Neo does a bad job, even if I had my times when I was strongly opposed to his decisions, but he seriously already has too much on his plate and asking him to take care of one more section would be ridiculous and unfruitful at best.

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Originally posted by EnigmaT I think everyone should be happy that this place has run so well without a mod. This the section of TA that is mature enough to run itself. Is that really a bad thing? We should be proud of that. Why hire a babysitter if we don't need one?

actually, west coast forums is doing just fine right now even without a mod

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Originally posted by kid nyce we need to start treating NYTA as an avenue of resource instead just "a party look up message board"

but that's what it is. you seem to be suggesting some sort of nyta craigslist, replete with a hodgepodge of non-musical activities, were the uninformed can receive ministrations from a beneficent mod.

maybe there can be an nyta rant & raves (moderated by highmay) or an nyta casual encounters (moderated by vlad)...

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Originally posted by Konijn but that's what it is. you seem to be suggesting some sort of nyta craigslist, replete with a hodgepodge of non-musical activities, were the uninformed can receive ministrations from a beneficent mod. maybe there can be an nyta rant & raves (moderated by highmay) or an nyta casual encounters (moderated by vlad)...

the difference the community here has and those listed above is we've created real life identities here, some of us hang out on the regular others don't, it's a medium of communication. Why not add some characteristics to it at the expense of what? a stickied thread? I'm not saying list your cell phone number and address, i'm not saying advertise erotic services here, I'm saying lets associate some of the real life attributes that almost all of us could at some point or another use. That goes with saying with such an available resource, you do have the choice to participate in the thread OR act as a point of reference.

Our points of reference are so "the norm", it's boring NYTA. I'm advocating for a robust region of knowledge where people will ultimately flock to. I'm not trying to establish a listing service like craigslist. We all to some extent or another have some sort of common bond here, lets thrive on that bond and add real life characteristics to it. Most other resources on the net leave that unfamiliar territory, here you know who you are dealing with, you know these people have suggested the reference, it's better than the anonymity of the an unfamiliar site.

I just think that the more skeptical people are, the more HANDS UP i don't want to participate this is not my thing mentality the less comforting this place will be, the less beneficial this place will be. Hell maybe some of you hate the members of this board but for some reason or another you return, you create an identity, you become someone by posting your review yet at the same time all of you won't support an effort to make this home fruitful with resourceful information.

It's clear now a MOD isn't about policing. Peoples intentions are about bringing this community of knowledge together and making it easier for our people of these boards to benefit from stuff that doesn't currently exist to everyones knowledge.

I'm in publishing you work for a major corporation, I need a job and am interested in your company. You could tell me more but I wouldn't know who works where. Same goes for those who are interested in my career. Those needing career advice, how do you know who to ask and who not to ask?

It's quite simple. The age bracket in which most members of these boards (especially evolving around music/clubs) is 18-30. Through this we've seen kids flourish through their adolescence and those who are significantly older do nothing to guide the younger ones. Ok some say who the hell cares about others, would that mentality normally fit in a community? Would you say that to your land lord if he ask you for rent? I'm not asking people to devote their time and effort all day every day, but if we all contributed just alittle to these boards we could potentially create a better community outside of just musical knowledge. This is something I see a mod would do. And if they don't do it, would you hold them accountable for it?

There is hardly a community effort here, with the exceptions of Tom and Dani (visitor's guide and party planner) both threads with exceptional amounts of information that is most beneficial to members of these boards. Stick to that, use that as a base of community. I've been saying this since day one, everyone has this ideology that a Mod is strictly here to police it's users. I think thats the wrong way to look at it, a mod should facilitate and represent their section. Now with that said, I'm not trying to raise the bar on other mods on other sections, they run their sections the way they want to. Some less effort than others which is fine, but me personally, i think we (nyta + surrounding areas) have alot more to offer to our local members, djs, producers, graphic artist, teachers, college kids, professionals...then just a club forum - if thats what you want there is always clubplanet =)

i haven't read through the past few pages because long paragraphs are a little much.

BUT i don't think it's been said...and it might need to...

it's just the internet!

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Originally posted by trancEyes22 i haven't read through the past few pages because long paragraphs are a little much. BUT i don't think it's been said...and it might need to... it's just the internet!

then you should bc there's a lot of interesting stuff being said.

too bad many people on here see it as "fixing something that's not broken" where as other, slightly more proactive people see it as an opportunity to make the scene better.

The internet is a thriving business, constant networking, and most importantly, it brings communities like this together =)

I'd say the tranceaddict collectively as a world wide enterprise has done really well.

But it is just the internet, key is it reaches people at all times of the day at every place on the earth.

It's a good tool and medium for communication.

not this again
why won't you realize that nothing will ever happen
we already had a big vote on this like 2 years ago and nothing came of it

porky - you aren't even an nyta...

Hehe, this is a relatively fruitful debate at the time being... but let's be sure it doesn't devolve into an all-out argument as it would be a tad ironic if the thread about getting supervision in the form of a moderator turns into a discussion that should itself be moderated.

Hehe, just a thought.

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Originally posted by beema porky - you aren't even an nyta...

well i might be.

my sister lives in nyc, and i'm thinking of maybe moving there in a few yrs. and besides, i have lots of nyta friends that i would love to meet again soon.


also, i'd say alot of ppl who post in the nyta section don't even live there (like you and all the other DCTA'ers). since the nyc area has an influx of many global tourists, a little bit of order and policing will make it better for non-newyorkers to post and contribute. i do know for a fact that there are MANY lurkers who read the boards for info about the latest shows/reviews. who knows how many more we can add to the community if the place is more properly moderated.


to all the haters who think that the nyta community cannot evolve further, take a look at the TOTA section. the other month we had a 15 page thread about bbq sauce. omgwtfbbq indeed.

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Originally posted by Porky well i might be. my sister lives in nyc, and i'm thinking of maybe moving there in a few yrs. and besides, i have lots of nyta friends that i would love to meet again soon. also, i'd say alot of ppl who post in the nyta section don't even live there (like you and all the other DCTA'ers). since the nyc area has an influx of many global tourists, a little bit of order and policing will make it better for non-newyorkers to post and contribute. i do know for a fact that there are MANY lurkers who read the boards for info about the latest shows/reviews. who knows how many more we can add to the community if the place is more properly moderated. to all the haters who think that the nyta community cannot evolve further, take a look at the TOTA section. the other month we had a 15 page thread about bbq sauce. omgwtfbbq indeed.

it derserves a mod but i think your somehow manuvering(sp) to become mod

arnt ya porkkkky
ARENT YA!!!!!!

fuck off back to maple syrup hocky puck land

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Originally posted by InterMilan31 it derserves a mod but i think your somehow manuvering(sp) to become mod arnt ya porkkkky ARENT YA!!!!!! fuck off back to maple syrup hocky puck land

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Brian & everyone else are throwin down some really great arguments. I would be all for a mod like you describe. Of course it has to be one of us, not some stranger migrated from COR!

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