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Posted by Ivand on Jun-12-2006 12:34:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
Hawtin plays records that are 10 plus years old..and some new shit.


and get away with it


Posted by Allied Nations on Jun-12-2006 12:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Ivand
and get away with it


Gets away with it? What the fuck is wrong with player older tunes? Chances are the majority of people excluding super techno FREAKS can barely ID a track or two from his sets.


Posted by boi85 on Jun-12-2006 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Gets away with it? What the fuck is wrong with player older tunes? Chances are the majority of people excluding super techno FREAKS can barely ID a track or two from his sets.


I do like my new tunes.

but a couple of older tunes in a long set are always appreciated.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jun-12-2006 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by boi85
I do like my new tunes.

but a couple of older tunes in a long set are always appreciated.


Pff. With the shit Hawtin's playing you wouldn't even know if it's new or old.


Posted by boi85 on Jun-12-2006 14:15:

why?
cause he is so 'underground' or cause he is so 'manipilative with his controls'

pfft.


Posted by noikeee on Jun-12-2006 14:48:

cause you have '0 day' or 'unreleased new ch00ns'

pfft.


Posted by boi85 on Jun-12-2006 15:11:

um... we were talking bout old tunes buddy/

who cares.

3-1.

I'm not getting into a Hawtin debate today.

moral of the story...

Sasha will always experiment and play what is appropriate for the context.

one thing is certain though... he is awesome.

end of story.


Posted by Nayil on Jun-12-2006 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
electro will be the next big thing.


electro sounds worse than Mcprog.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jun-12-2006 17:03:

It has nothing to do with him being underground or maipulative with his controls as you put it. It's about playing tunes that make people dance regardless of when they were released. DJs now have 25 years of dance music practically at their fingertips. He's a fucking genius to take advantage of that fact.


Posted by Clovis on Jun-12-2006 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
It has nothing to do with him being underground or maipulative with his controls as you put it. It's about playing tunes that make people dance regardless of when they were released. DJs now have 25 years of dance music practically at their fingertips. He's a fucking genius to take advantage of that fact.



+1


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-12-2006 21:15:

the fact that he can handle final scratch better than anyone else on the planet helps Hawtin also hams it up and does the unexpected.I can remember him dropping a full blown disco track in the middle of a very bleepy set.The club went nuts.(it wasnt music noobs either, the club was very selective about who they let in.)

ive never heard of minimalistic prog...although i have heard of minimal being layered with prog


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-13-2006 00:12:

its retarded.. get it through ur heads!


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-13-2006 00:26:

no
you just cant appreciate something different is all


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-13-2006 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
no
you just cant appreciate something different is all
i can apreciate something different...

i dont like rock, yet i can listen to it... i can apreciate classical music, yet i dont like it... i can apreciate a chant of a munk...

yet odly put together noises... is just shit.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-13-2006 00:37:

if you think that is the only aspect of minimal you are wrong.

youre opinion on minimal is what those who listen to mainstream music tend to think of edm as a whole.

music doesnt always need a huge hooking baselin or addictive synths to get people grooving.

if you still cant get into it try some k


Posted by Clovis on Jun-13-2006 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
i can apreciate something different...

i dont like rock, yet i can listen to it... i can apreciate classical music, yet i dont like it... i can apreciate a chant of a munk...

yet odly put together noises... is just shit.



You have some of the worst taste of anyone on this forum so I dont think I'm gonna listen to you. And I doubt many other people will either.


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-13-2006 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
if you think that is the only aspect of minimal you are wrong.

youre opinion on minimal is what those who listen to mainstream music tend to think of edm as a whole.

music doesnt always need a huge hooking baselin or addictive synths to get people grooving.

if you still cant get into it try some k
i hate k. and minimal


Posted by Cobalt on Jun-13-2006 00:48:

Sadly, "electro" is the new "progressive"; a trendy prefix describing a general trend of production, which has achieved critical mass. The term is going to be with us as long as progressive has (or was), and will steer major genre movements for years to come.

Seeing this drives me nuts, because I can't stand the distorted retro synths and minimal production values. All across the board I see genres infected with the electro bug losing their traditional feeling and flavor, replaced with some hollow and soulless shell of saw waves and bleeps.

Just tragic. Clearly it appeals to others, but I don't understand it, and it's damn hard to find music I like in this mess. I suppose it's a natural progression from the epic mood of the 90s, though.


Posted by plaxx on Jun-13-2006 01:30:

genres are retarded... music is music, enjoy it. there will be things you dont like but others love and vice versa... i'll listen to 80s disco if its got a nice groove to it. I dont like to base tracks on what genre they have but what it does to me... sounds good? i'll listen and play.


Posted by bobba lou on Jun-13-2006 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
It has nothing to do with him being underground or maipulative with his controls as you put it. It's about playing tunes that make people dance regardless of when they were released. DJs now have 25 years of dance music practically at their fingertips. He's a fucking genius to take advantage of that fact.


good point. The thing with hawtin is that he is playing the older tunes because they were good then, and they still sound fresh now. Im not the biggest fan of hawtin, but his sets are very good because he plays older shit (as you mention,so old you cant spot) and he rocks some new stuff. For Example, Lemon8 - model 8 old 93 record (yes, Harry lemon made a techno tune) a thirteen year old record that was white label and had a few pressings. Hawtin will release it on plus8 shortly.


Posted by Boomer187 on Jun-13-2006 01:40:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
no
you just cant appreciate something shitty is all




FIXED!!!


Posted by nchs09 on Jun-13-2006 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
You have some of the worst taste of anyone on this forum so I dont think I'm gonna listen to you. And I doubt many other people will either.
what constitues as the worst taste?


Posted by bobba lou on Jun-13-2006 01:48:

I have question nacho libre's taste at times as well. I think it was the, "what known dj is playing", "the big names are not playing that track" comments, but he's still good peeps and is entitled to his say. I sometimes try to pass on tunes or let him know about tunes that he would enjoy or be interested in. Yes, he is difficult sometimes.


Posted by all-nite-freak on Jun-13-2006 01:59:

how many here are judging solely on what they hear at home?
how many here have been to a minimal night at a club?
just curious.


Posted by Clovis on Jun-13-2006 02:25:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
what constitues as the worst taste?



Not the same as mine jay kay...


You told me after NYE I was gonna be saying Sasha who? and Sander blew ass.

I will never forgive teh guat for that! YOU RUINED MY NEW YEARS

lol


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