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| Originally posted by SouthernDJ I don't see what it has to do with calciopoli, but I can ony precise that Pessotto was charged as a Juve manager and also he's accused to be linked with doping (his girlfriend claimed) and he was in a deep depressed situation. for sure ot was a suicide attempt, and that's too bad. yesterday his doctor said that his life is still in risk, and today he was transported into the surgery dept. lets hope he gets well in the next days. |
finally the sad news for juveopoli here it comes
Calciopoli: Palazzi, Juventus in serie C1 e Lazio in B
04/07/2006 12:43:13
Il procuratore Stefano Palazzi non ha usato la mano leggera nella sua requisitoria sullo scandalo di Calciopoli. Per la la Juventus, al centro dello scandalo, � stata chiesta la retrocessione in serie C1 e sei punti di penalizzazione. Serie B per la Lazio, l�altra societ� quotata, che avrebbe anche 15 punti di penalizzazione; anche per Fiorentina e Milan chiesta la serie cadetta con rispettivamente 15 e 3 punti di penalizzazione.
in a few words:
what the procuratore Palazzi, asks to the court for the Calciopoli trial:
JUVENTUS RELEGATED IN SERIE C1, -6 POINTS OF PENALTY
LAZIO RELEGATED IN SERIE B, -15 POINTS OF PENALTY
FIORENTINA REMAINS IN SERIE A, -15 POINTS OF PENALTY
MILAN REMAINS IN SERIE A, -3 POINTS OF PENALTY
also he asks the cancellation of the scudetto 2004/2005 from Juve
how the fcuk Milan gets only -3 points of penalty 
send them in B too
I have only heard this today:
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| The prosecutor in the Italian match-fixing scandal has confirmed that they are looking for all four clubs involved - Juventus, Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina - to be relegated. Stefano Palazzi said that he would look for Milan, Lazio and Fiorentina to be demoted to Serie B - whilst Juventus, who are the most severely implicated in the proceedings, should be sent to Serie C at least. The situation is nothing new for either Milan and Lazio as, in 1980, they were both found guilty of match fixing and relegated, while Fiorentina are no strangers to lower league football having only recently returned to the top-flight following bankruptcy. However, with Juventus - they have never been out of Italy's top-flight and to be demoted when currently champions of Serie A would be a huge blow to them as it would also likely cost them their place in the UEFA Champions League, as is also the case for Milan and Fiorentina. Not making do with mere relegation, Palazzi also revealed that he would look for Lazio, Fiorentina and Milan to start with a deduction of 15 points - making immediate promotion very difficult - while he would also want Juventus to be penalised by six points. Both Juventus and Milan were quick to comment and, obviously, they were not pleased. "The requests of deductions for the different teams are absolutely not consistent," Juve lawyer Cesare Zaccone said. "It's difficult for me not to see this as absurd," complained Milan president Silvio Berlusconi. "Milan never had favours from referees. We have been victims of favours made to others club." The case also implicates 25 officials - it was 26 but FIGC (Italian Football Federation) member Cosimo Maria Ferri was cleared on Monday. On individuals, Palazzi stated that he wanted former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi - the man who the whole scandal centres around - to get a five-year suspension, while he would also want the same penalty imposed on another former Juve director Antonio Giraudo, Fiorentina owner Diego Della Valle and Lazio president Claudio Lotito. Other high-profile bans could be imposed on Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani and also Andrea Della Valle of Fiorentina. Palazzi is also looking for big sentences to be levied against Milan's Leonardo Meani, former FIGC president Franco Carraro and former refereeing designators Pierluigi Pairetto and Paolo Bergamo. Italy's highest profile referee Massimo de Santis - who should have gone to the World Cup finals before being withdrawn, is facing a five-year ban for his role in the whole scandal, while fellow match official Gianluca Paparesta is facing a 12-month suspension. The case continues at Rome's Olympic Stadium and a decision is expected by next week. |
fuck off that dumbass of De Sanctis, he asked billions to Moggi for falsifying all those games.
and Paparesta is getting suspended, justice must be done
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| Originally posted by SouthernDJ JUVENTUS RELEGATED IN SERIE C1, -6 POINTS OF PENALTY LAZIO RELEGATED IN SERIE B, -15 POINTS OF PENALTY FIORENTINA REMAINS IN SERIE A, -15 POINTS OF PENALTY MILAN REMAINS IN SERIE A, -3 POINTS OF PENALTY |
is this official news ????????? rumors ????????????
MILAN IN SERIE A WITH ONLY -3 FTW ! I HOPE THIS IS TRUE 
that is not even close to the official news Toni got it wrong it is:
Juve -> serie c1 -6
Milan, lazio, fiorentina -> serie B -3
yes you're right but here every newspaper has a different result (Moggi influence again), but Ben is closer to the real ones: Juventus C1 -6p. Lazio, Fiore and Milan > B, with various - points.
also Capello resigned after his visit to the hospital to see Pessotto, he's going back to Real
Berlusconi was furious after hearing Milan relegation, I think he will do the impossible to save them
mi consentaaa
silvio is a dumb fuck politician but i hope he saves milan from relegation
by the way 2005 and 2006 titles are gonna be ours ?
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 by the way 2005 and 2006 titles are gonna be ours ? |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neP-o1AXNB4
Minchia! What a mess they've made of Italian football, looks like we'll be watching Serie B next season then!
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| Originally posted by fcuk � Minchia! What a mess they've made of Italian football, looks like we'll be watching Serie B next season then! |
damn i dont want watch Milan in B
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| Italian Politicians Urge Amnesty Over Scandal Members of Forza Italia, the political party of former Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, are calling for a fooball amnesty as the trial into alleged match-fixing continues. The initiative for the amnesty has come from Mauricio Paniz, an MP of Forza Italia and a Juventus supporter. Another of the clubs threatened with relegation for their alleged part in the scandal are AC Milan, run by Berlusconi, who recently lost a bitter re-election battle against Romano Prodi. The fact that the Italian national team, the Azzurri, have reached Sunday's World Cup final, may have softened attitudes and increased the pressure for a reprieve from supporters of the clubs involved. Thirteen of the 23-man Azzurri squad are attached to the four clubs concerned - Juventus (five players), AC Milan (five), Lazio (two) and Fiorentina (one). The special prosecutor, Stefano Palazzi, has recommended that Juventus be relegated to the third tier of the Italian League, and that Milan, Fiorentina, and Lazio be demoted to the second division. However, this has enraged Berlusconi, who is trying to portray this as a Juventus scandal. The Milan boss is demanding that the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) strip Juventus of the two Scudetti they won in the last two seasons. and hand them to Milan. However, Sports Minister Giovanna Melendri has ruled out any amnesty for the clubs implicated in the scandal. "It is stupid to talk of an amnesty. Football needs major reform, " said Melandri. "The national team's matches are one thing, the sporting trials are another. Let's keep them separate." Meanwhile, Internazionale's chairman, Massimo Moratti, who is a friend of prime minister Romano Prodi, is unimpressed by his two big rivals' alleged behaviour and unsympathetic towards their current predicament. He believes that the Scudetto should be given to Inter as the third-placed team in Serie A. Moratti is widely respected within Italian football as a man of integrity. Asked the question, "What do you think of a Serie A without Milan and Juventus? Would you be nostalgic?" He replied: "No, I certainly wouldn't feel nostalgic." |
Amnesty should be applied for Milan only
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 Amnesty should be applied for Milan only |
During the last CHAMPIONS LEAGUE games, here some telephone interceptions between Luciano Moggi (ex general manager of Juventus) and Pierluigi Pairetto (ex referee designator in UEFA)...
(ripped from Corriere Della Sera, 05/04/2005)
***Chapter ONE - THE WRONG REFEREE
Moggi: "Hello?"
Morena: "Mr. Moggi goodmorning. I wanted to communicate the referee and the assistant referees for the Champions League match of tomorrow evening"
Moggi: "Who is the referee, Cardoso? "
Morena: "No, I see the referee Poll Graham"
Moggi: "Uhm"
Moggi: "Where is he from...?"
Morena: "Is british" (...)
after a while...
Pairetto: "Hello"
Moggi: "Goodmorning"
Pairetto: "Ohila goodmorning"
Moggi: "Oh, and that saint of Cardoso, eh?..."
Pairetto: "Eh"
Moggi: "Paul Green (Moggi's english, he doesn't remember the name Graham Poll, ndr)"
Pairetto: "What?"
Moggi: "Paul Green"
Pairetto: "Then it must have been happened something at the last moment maybe, I have Cardoso on my papers, surely happened something... maybe he had health problems or something like that"
Moggi: "Get informed, get informed quickly"
Pairetto: "Yes yes, I'll verify it soon"
(the match Juventus - Djugarden finished 4-1, and Juve qualified)
*** Chapter TWO - I REMEMBER YOU
(Sept.1)
Moggi: "Hello"
Pairetto: "Ehila, I know you forget me but I still remember you"
Moggi: "Oh come on"
Pairetto: "Eh, I putted a big referee for the Amsterdam match".
Moggi: "Who is?"
Pairetto: "Meier"
Moggi: "Excellent"
Pairetto: "See? I still remember you, even you lately..."
Moggi: "Oh come on, from now you'll see, wait until my return back, then I will tell you if I forget you or not"
*** Chapter THREE - I NEED A CAR
Man: "Agnelli house, goodmorning"
Moggi: "I am Moggi goodmorning. I would like to talk with Nalla"
Nalla: "Ciao Luciano"
Moggi: "I need in a brief time because you know we must do..."
Nalla: "Yes"
Moggi: "For an important friend of mine, I need a Maserati"
Nalla: "Yes"
Moggi: "Fourdoors"
Nalla: "Fourdoors?"
Moggi: "Yes. I give you time like a week or ten days, va bene?"
Nalla: "Va bene"
*** Chapter FOUR - THE CAR IS ON DISPOSAL
Enzo: "Hello?"
Pairetto: "Enzo?"
Enzo: "Ciao Gigi"
Pairetto: "Listen I wanted to tell that practically I have the car already"
Enzo: "What?"
Pairetto: "So tell me when we can go and pick it is on your disposal a Maserati"
Enzo: "Oh come on"
Pairetto: "Yes so"
Enzo: "Holy Saint"
Pairetto: "Now when I return back tomorrow I'll call directly the Royal House (he means Agnelli house, the FIAT owners".
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i call for amnesty for all the teams, even juventus
you can't ruin the world cup happiness now
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 i call for amnesty for all the teams, even juventus you can't ruin the world cup happiness now |
hopefully those italian seria A spaghetti farters are going down to serie B or C, would be awesome
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| Originally posted by brutaluser hopefully those italian seria A spaghetti farters are going down to serie B or C, would be awesome |
THIS SEEMS TO BE THE VERDICT...
Inter & Roma = Champions League
MILAN(serie A) & Chievo = Preliminary Champions League
Palermo, Livorno & Ascoli???? = UEFA CUP
Fiorentina & Lazio (serie A but no Europe)
Juventus (Serie B) with all their sponsorships still in place.
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 THIS SEEMS TO BE THE VERDICT... Inter & Roma = Champions League MILAN(serie A) & Chievo = Preliminary Champions League Palermo, Livorno & Ascoli???? = UEFA CUP Fiorentina & Lazio (serie A but no Europe) Juventus (Serie B) with all their sponsorships still in place. |
so that article is severly wrong
one thing we know for damn sure, inter won't be serie a 2006/2007 champions 
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