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I dont think an isratrance poll is really indicative of where israeli full on is at. Prog is extremely popular now since its a lot more accessable than psytrance, I'd say that is the contributing factor more than anything else.

Also, Israel in particular is dominated by psytrance from all indications. Commercialisation of the music is bound to creep in at some point. My point was that just because theres an emerging "Killah!!" genre of psytrance in Israel (Skazi, uh... etc, etc..), that isnt a real indication of what good full on is. Also, I think its because peoples initial exposure to psy is generally limited to the more commercial side of it that they get this assumption.

Considering this thread is about iraeli psy, I'll mention a few artists I consider to be pretty much up there in terms of releases. All full on and all israeli.

Panick
Timelock
Quantum
Hujaboy
Ejekt
Echotek
U-Recken
Bizarre Contact
Electro Sun
Aquatica
Double REL

This is offtopic, but since i like almost all your views so far.. I always wanted to categorize my favourite compilation (and im asking someone like Rebel to do it for me..)

http://www.discogs.com/release/36152

speaking about Ticon. Check out this video. Such an energy

Look like you like what you do and they'll like it too

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Originally posted by Axolotyl Considering this thread is about iraeli psy, I'll mention a few artists I consider to be pretty much up there in terms of releases. All full on and all israeli. Panick Timelock Quantum Hujaboy Ejekt Echotek U-Recken Bizarre Contact Electro Sun Aquatica Double REL

No Misted Muppet?

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Originally posted by Sykonee No Misted Muppet?

I think Misted Muppet should be up there too.

Totally... my bad. Maximum respect for the Muppet!!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 ever heard of progpsy? It's been quite big since a couple of years with labels such as Iboga, Spiral Trax, Tribal Vision etc.

yes, but I don't find it very psychedelic

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Originally posted by tomoyo yes, but I don't find it very psychedelic

that's you

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Originally posted by RebeL9 that's you

that doesn't have to do with the quality of music. prog can be good too (and is)

Who needs Skazi and Infected Mushroom when we got Flesh Brothers and Hydroid???!!

ill be happy when there will be no Psy in here
It sucks IMO and makes da kiddies feel like they cool bcz they "know" EDM...

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Originally posted by tomoyo yes, but I don't find it very psychedelic

I'd have to agree, I have listened to a lot of prog psy lately and I do like it, being the combination of two of my favourite genres it's no surprise. However good it is though it doesn't quite hit the qualities of both parents and I feel it has ended up falling short of it's true worth. Perhaps in the future the releases will start to go in a direction that really shows off what this music should be capable of.

Vibrasphere and Wizzy Noise for example would be losely classified as prog/psy I suppose. I really enjoy their music but ultimately they end up sounding like trance of the 96/97 variety, thats right:

Psychadelic + Progressive = Plain old Trance

OK not all the time, but many of the structures are the same and it always amuses me to see things move in circles.

edit : if that makes no sense it's because I'm drunk

Or: psychedelic + progressive = progressive with other instruments.
The sound looses its psy element when it goes progressive. The same like oldshool trance lost its trance element when it went to anthems.

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