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Posted by Psy-T on Jul-12-2006 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
i used to be really bad at these, but really loved them. did one a day.
now, i can complete a gentle in 5 minutes
and an evil/most difficult in 45 minutes to an hour.

and about them dying out in popularity, i'm not sure, i think it's more appealing to mathematically minded people...just like crosswords are for word people...and those haven't died out


sudoku = pseudo-fractalic-jigsaw. exciting stuff


Posted by JBDreamerie on Jul-12-2006 16:19:

here's my strategy (if you don't want these hints, don't read it!!!):

first, print it out, and write on it.
second, with the row/column/box that has the most numbers in it, go through each of the ones that don't have numbers, and find the only possibilities in those. write them down.
third, repeat step 2.
at this point, there should be a fair amount that are filled out (because you were able to eliminate all but one in a box). on gentle level you most likely have 75% of it done. on evil, maybe 20%.
every box should be filled with a filled number, or a possibility of numbers.
now comes the key part. you have to know three basic tricks:
if in any row/column/9-box, the following happens:
1) in one box you have (1 2), in another box (1 2) and in another box (1 2 3); that third box HAS to be 3. or you can say, if any two boxes have two number possibilities (and ONLY two!), then you can eliminate those numbers from the rest of the boxes in the respective row/column/9-box
2) in one box you have (1 2), in another box (1 3) and in another box (1 2 3); those numbers cannot appear in ANY other box in that respective row/column/9-box
3) if you did the listing correctly, if one number appears in only one box of a row/column/9-box, that box has to contain that number.

and basically you just do it over and over and over again. you start developing an eye for it, and can start listing number possibilities really quickly. you start seeing patterns of possibilities and can start to eliminate numbers from other boxes.

for every 9-box, you have three rows, and three columns to check, so don't be discouraged if you go through it once and can't get it. if you are able to eliminate something from a 9-box, that probably will help you in another box. and so on.

also, if you notice, the square is always symmetric downwards (fold the entire square in half) and then horizontally (fold the remaining. i don't know how to explain it...it's like symmetric diagonally, and then mirrored. they're not the same numbers, but they should help you decide which row/column/9-box to start with first.


Posted by jupiterone on Jul-12-2006 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I thought 'Sudoku' was Japanese for suicide?




I heard Saduko is japanese for a 3 some of some sort.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-27-2006 21:02:

can someone do this puzzle for me

xxx x8x x27
xxx xx3 x8x
x87 xxx 3x6

x5x xx6 xx1
1x6 xxx 8x3
2xx 1xx x5x

5x2 xxx 79x
x1x 5xx xxx
84x x7x xxx


Posted by JBDreamerie on Jul-27-2006 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
can someone do this puzzle for me

xxx x8x x27
xxx xx3 x8x
x87 xxx 3x6

x5x xx6 xx1
1x6 xxx 8x3
2xx 1xx x5x

5x2 xxx 79x
x1x 5xx xxx
84x x7x xxx


give me some time, i'll post it as soon as i figure it out


Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-27-2006 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by JBDreamerie
give me some time, i'll post it as soon as i figure it out


ok thanks. I tried but am stuck


Posted by Floorfiller on Jul-27-2006 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
can someone do this puzzle for me
[code]
xxx x8x x27
xxx xx3 x8x
x87 xxx 3x6

x5x xx6 xx1
1x6 xxx 8x3
2xx 1xx x5x

5x2 xxx 79x
x1x 5xx xxx
84x x7x xxx



6 3 5 -- 4 8 1 -- 9 2 7
9 2 1 -- 6 3 7 -- 5 8 4
4 8 7 -- 9 5 2 -- 3 1 6

3 5 4 -- 8 9 6 -- 2 7 1
1 9 6 -- 7 2 5 -- 8 4 3
2 7 8 -- 1 4 3 -- 6 5 9

5 6 2 -- 3 1 4 -- 7 9 8
7 1 9 -- 5 6 8 -- 4 3 2
8 4 3 -- 2 7 9 -- 1 6 5


think that should be right...


Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-27-2006 22:26:

that cant be right


Posted by Floorfiller on Jul-27-2006 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
that cant be right


what's wrong with it?


Posted by UWM on Jul-27-2006 22:29:

I stopped playing Sudoku after I was finishing all the highest difficulty puzzles in 7-9 minutes.


Posted by Sunsnail on Jul-27-2006 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
what's wrong with it?


you copied the puzzle wrong =\


Posted by Floorfiller on Jul-27-2006 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
you copied the puzzle wrong =\



oh shit you're right...i forgot to put that three in the upper corner hahaa...lemme fix it real quick...


edit: bleh...too much work to start over...so there is an alternative solving for a puzzle without a three haha...woulda been a lot easier if i had that damn three...no wonder it was so hard hahhaa


Posted by Rainborn on Jul-27-2006 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Temperate
yeah, sudoku is not a logic puzzle, nice try, though.




Yes, it is?

And I don't think it'll decrease in popularity yet. It's a very addicting game (to many) and it's been around for a while. But who knows?


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