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Originally posted by arnoldj Well I was browsing through this thread and it caught my attention. What Im about to address is meant for Americans and others can take what I say into consideration. I think that it is a duty that all of us should have the right to bear arms; it has been stated clearly in our USA constitution. �A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.� To me that is very clear. Our founding fathers even carried guns when they went from state to state, they encouraged the citizens to carry their own weapons. Because they knew when you leave the people of a nation vulnerable it is very dangerous. What would happened lets say if Bush goes nuts and orders the military to go on a raid and kill Americans for the heck of it? A massacre� We wont be able to protect ourselves if we don�t bear the right to posse arms.. I had talked about the Holocaust in the other thread� I was having a conversation with one of my professor sometime ago, what would have happened if the Jews would have had arms, the Holocaust would have still taken place but it would have had a different direction.

the jews didnt have a country yet you dumb fuck they were scatterd across europe

humm so yeah maybe you're part of the NRA?

What's your point?


I'm pretty much anti-war but I want to get into handgun shooting at one point. Have done it a couple times and loved it.

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Originally posted by enferno whatchya pakin dA?

Ruger P95DC 9MM.

The one on the right.

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Originally posted by chach the jews didnt have a country yet you dumb fuck they were scatterd across europe

he didnt say they had a country

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Originally posted by Sunsnail he didnt say they had a country

but they were scattered its not like if they all had guns they would meet up in one place and fight the nazis lol

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Originally posted by chach but they were scattered its not like if they all had guns they would meet up in one place and fight the nazis lol

Oh, I guess. A jew could defend himself and his family in his own household at least.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Oh, I guess. A jew could defend himself and his family in his own household at least.

Individual squattered civilian uprisings never happen and if they do they will quickly be crushed as their isn't a large number of participants.

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Oh, I guess. A jew could defend himself and his family in his own household at least.

ya but it would be in vain i just thought it was a stupid analogy and i doubt any college professor would take that statment even remotly serious

Yes, the Jews didnt have their own country. But what I'm saying the importance of being a gun owner.. Many people disregard this idea... I see it as a duty for all of us to know how to shoot atleast.

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Originally posted by jdat humm so yeah maybe you're part of the NRA? What's your point? I'm pretty much anti-war but I want to get into handgun shooting at one point. Have done it a couple times and loved it.

Well I love shooting also! One of my professors he is a gun collector and he is an interesting dude he has a whole collection of WWII weapons... he owns about 300 guns which is nothing compared to other collectors he knows... he told me he is willing to take me shooting, but I would like to obtain a license and for that he takes it very seriously and will make me join the NRA... I will when I become 21... now Im just concentrating in rifles that dont require to have a license.. If you ever come to Miami we can go shooting

I think that his group, the collectors, will meet in Norway sometime go to shooting for the heck of it. If you are located in Norway I can give you the 411. These people what I like about them they are willing to teach you... how to properly shoot and the history that every gun has to it... So if you are really looking to it I encourage you, its a fun hobby Then again you must do it responsibly I have seen some collectors with Soviet tanks the heavy collectors.

I want to get to it, but sadly this has turned to be an expensive hobby, for the old guns. Especially when Saving Private Ryan came out many people where into WWII weapons.. Now to purchase these type of guns is getting more and more expensive... if you are looking into it let me know so I can PM you the site where all these collectors talk about guns.

yeah, bearing arms certainly helped protect david koresh & the branch davidians from your government

DA where do you go shooting?

Didnt I mention that the main purpose of being a gun owner is to defend yourself. If Bush goes nuts, sends the military to your house and kill you, who are you going to defend your country or you and your family?

that would never in a million years happen

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Originally posted by arnoldj DA where do you go shooting?

Big Al's Gun shop, Range and pawn on Hallandale Beach Blvd.

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Originally posted by arnoldj Didnt I mention that the main purpose of being a gun owner is to defend yourself. If Bush goes nuts, sends the military to your house and kill you, who are you going to defend your country or you and your family?

My family comes first. Fuck Bush and all that.

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Originally posted by chach that would never in a million years happen

Who would have ever thought that a guy name hitler came to power and killed millions

Yes this type of shyt wont never happen, as we talk there are genocides going on around the world.

What would happen If the US gets invaded, do you think Im going to wait for the military to arrive so they can defend me? NO! I believe that if you are going to do something stupid that is going to threat my life and of my family that is my duty to defend myself, idc if you can call someone a killer for that, it would be something between that person and god(him to judge)

yeah, owning guns will prevent another hitler. good thinking there einstein!

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Originally posted by arnoldj Who would have ever thought that a guy name hitler came to power and killed millions Yes this type of shyt wont never happen, as we talk there are genocides going on around the world. What would happen If the US gets invaded, do you think Im going to wait for the military to arrive so they can defend me? NO! I believe that if you are going to do something stupid that is going to threat my life and of my family that is my duty to defend myself, idc if you can call someone a killer for that, it would be something between that person and god(him to judge)

ya all that is fine but i was sayin a american president could never even come close to doing something like that ya soldiers are somewhat desensitized but not enough to kill there own citizens

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Originally posted by DarkAngel Big Al's Gun shop, Range and pawn on Hallandale Beach Blvd. My family comes first. Fuck Bush and all that.

I agree with you! Bush has nothing to do with this, I just used him as an example.

I kind of know where that is, I thought you went to the own by the Miami Free Zone, great range

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Originally posted by arnoldj Who would have ever thought that a guy name hitler came to power and killed millions Yes this type of shyt wont never happen, as we talk there are genocides going on around the world. What would happen If the US gets invaded, do you think Im going to wait for the military to arrive so they can defend me? NO! I believe that if you are going to do something stupid that is going to threat my life and of my family that is my duty to defend myself, idc if you can call someone a killer for that, it would be something between that person and god(him to judge)

thats why you yanks are shooting up schools and killing each other everyday. ban the guns and save a few lifes!

guns kill people.....therefore I would love to own one to shot half the peeps in TO/TA shhhhhhhhhhhh

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, owning guns will prevent another hitler. good thinking there einstein!

You seem not to understand

OWNING GUNS WILL PREVENT THE GOVT NOT TO ABUSE THEIR POWER... HOW CAN A GOVT CAUSE FEAR? BY THEIR MILITARY... IF THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CITIZENS HAVE GUNS AND ARE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES ITS A WHOLE NEW STORY

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Originally posted by chach ya all that is fine but i was sayin a american president could never even come close to doing something like that ya soldiers are somewhat desensitized but not enough to kill there own citizens

Well talking about the powers of a president, lets say if he wants to go to war... he has to do it with the consent of the senate ofcourse... but if the senate says no... can he still go to war? YES! He would just have to go before the supreme court.... for example, the duty of the pres is to defend the country... what would happen if he finds out that they want to nuke us... tells congress they say fuk you does he has to obly by it? not exactly, as i said he would just have to go before the us supreme court and explain his action...

well there was an issue going to the NO disaster, the constitution of the US was violated:
"No soldier shall, ."in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law when the disaster happened in New Orleans we werent in war and the govt did not go to a court to obtain permission so soldiers could go into peoples houses, but its still was done but to save lives, trying to get the people trapped out!
But again the constitution was violated, and the govt never got the right permission to go into the houses, because they acted immediately!

You never know if a President can go nuts, a genocide can still happen, if the political climate is there. like it was in Germany, a fucked up economy, makes people show their racist side, and desesperation they elected hitler.

Can that happen in America and any other nation? Yes... If the US gets fucked up, bad economy, bad everything people will go nuts and be desperate and lets say some guy comes a long and says ill bring the US back to greatness but lets get rid of Hispanic, Asians, etc.. with the consent of the American people(assuming that pres is racist) it can be done because the American people approve of it.

Like I said the Holocaust was carried out by the Germans and not the Nazis, dont tell me the german people didnt know wtf was going on

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Originally posted by arnoldj You seem not to understand OWNING GUNS WILL PREVENT THE GOVT NOT TO ABUSE THEIR POWER... HOW CAN A GOVT CAUSE FEAR? BY THEIR MILITARY... IF THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CITIZENS HAVE GUNS AND ARE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES ITS A WHOLE NEW STORY Well talking about the powers of a president, lets say if he wants to go to war... he has to do it with the consent of the senate ofcourse... but if the senate says no... can he still go to war? YES! He would just have to go before the supreme court.... for example, the duty of the pres is to defend the country... what would happen if he finds out that they want to nuke us... tells congress they say fuk you does he has to obly by it? not exactly, as i said he would just have to go before the us supreme court and explain his action... well there was an issue going to the NO disaster, the constitution of the US was violated: "No soldier shall, ."in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law when the disaster happened in New Orleans we werent in war and the govt did not go to a court to obtain permission so soldiers could go into peoples houses, but its still was done but to save lives, trying to get the people trapped out! But again the constitution was violated, and the govt never got the right permission to go into the houses, because they acted immediately! You never know if a President can go nuts, a genocide can still happen, if the political climate is there. like it was in Germany, a fucked up economy, makes people show their racist side, and desesperation they elected hitler. Can that happen in America and any other nation? Yes... If the US gets fucked up, bad economy, bad everything people will go nuts and be desperate and lets say some guy comes a long and says ill bring the US back to greatness but lets get rid of Hispanic, Asians, etc.. with the consent of the American people(assuming that pres is racist) it can be done because the American people approve of it. Like I said the Holocaust was carried out by the Germans and not the Nazis, dont tell me the german people didnt know wtf was going on

you think to much mate.

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dont tell me the german people didnt know wtf was going on

considering the major nazi force was german im guessing they not only new but the rest of the world also new but even if the germans didnt agree til it they couldnt do anything or they would have been shot

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Originally posted by arnoldj You seem not to understand OWNING GUNS WILL PREVENT THE GOVT NOT TO ABUSE THEIR POWER... HOW CAN A GOVT CAUSE FEAR? BY THEIR MILITARY... IF THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CITIZENS HAVE GUNS AND ARE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES ITS A WHOLE NEW STORY

wrong. you idiot. already mentioned- david koresh and the branch davidians. what happened to them? they were heavily armed. indeed thats why the ATF wanted to arrest some of them. oh, and most of them died after trying to fight off your government.

your average citizen isnt capable of organising a sunday BBQ, let alone an organised resistance to your government.

if you think your right to bear arms is what keeps your government in check then you are just a stupid little boy without any understanding of government in your country.

Ww

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN wrong. you idiot. already mentioned- david koresh and the branch davidians. what happened to them? they were heavily armed. indeed thats why the ATF wanted to arrest some of them. oh, and most of them died after trying to fight off your government. your average citizen isnt capable of organising a sunday BBQ, let alone an organised resistance to your government. if you think your right to bear arms is what keeps your government in check then you are just a stupid little boy without any understanding of government in your country.

You want to talk about a nut case!!!
No shit you idiot! The main reason is to fuking defend yourself when the govt is not respecting your rights, there was a shooting here in maimi, cant recall the year, some robbers kicked the shyt out of the FBI, armed with AKs.

AGAIN WHEN IM TALKING ABOUT DEFENDING YOURSELF IS WHEN IN TIME OF PEACE THE GOVT COMES AND VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION AND VIOLATES THE BASIC RIGHTS THEY SHOULD PROVIDE FOR THEIR CITIZENS, SAFETY. WHEN THEY DISREGARD SAFETY AND SAY FUK IT VIOLENCE THE WHOLE NATION CAN STAND UP AND DEFEND THEIR LIFES A LONG WITH THEIR FAMILY. THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW TO SHOOT.

HOW CAN YOU COMPARE A SHOOTING BETWEEN A GROUP AND A STRUGGLE BETWEEN A GOVT AGENCY....

HOW MANY SOLDIERS ARE THERE IN THE MILITARY?
IS IT MORE THAN THE 200+ MILLION CITIZENS HERE?
IF ALL OS US WHERE ARMED CAN WE TAKE THE US MILIRATY OUT IF THEY COME AFTER US TO MURDER US?

sometimes i wonder why i bother with the intellectual peasants in the COR.

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