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Originally posted by dj_kane the american who thinks hes italian speaks yay.

not only do you know nothing about music, but it seems you dont know geography either.Must be the results of a potato blight.I'm not american, but i really hope you talk like that while you are there.Be sure you tell the angry g thugs you like trance.

mirillo has trancey elements!
and frankie knuckles plays schranz techno!!!!!
stupid tiesticles

dont no what g thugs are but ill be sure to tell them once im over there i love trance. yea the famine hit me pretty bad im starving over here could you send some food over please.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy You need to learn to read. I said UNLESS you live in Philly, you're fucked. As in, if you live in Pittsburgh, State College, Harrisburg, Erie, etc, you're screwed if you expect an EDM scene. Philly was the exception, which you'd have understood if you actually read and processed my comment.

I'm not too sure about the rest of PA, but you are right about Harrisburg. I live just across the river from the city and there is absolutely no following for dance music plain and simple. Not even a small core of people. The very few clubs around don't cater in any way to EDM, so it's pretty much useless to expect it played as people really have no clue what dance music is period.

If given the proper push though, EDM very well might do ok in Harrisburg since it would be fresh and the city desperately needs something to keep things interesting. Although Mayor Reed would probably piss and moan about that, so I don't know how probable it would be to begin with. But damn, if Harrisburg isn't a rather lifeless and boring city. It's all about art/drama and politics here.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak not only do you know nothing about music, but it seems you dont know geography either.Must be the results of a potato blight.I'm not american, but i really hope you talk like that while you are there.Be sure you tell the angry g thugs you like trance. mirillo has trancey elements! and frankie knuckles plays schranz techno!!!!! stupid tiesticles

maybe you could make me a pizza or some bolognese i would love some of that.

this thead should really be in a local forum, most of the world doesnt care about the usa it seems.

i would say west coast....u always find more trance at the parties in Cali

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Originally posted by iammesol Look heres how it is: outside of major cities = .0000000001% of the population inside of major cities = 1% of the population Nobody likes EDM here...

This is your answer, and i'd even go as far to say that 1% is pushing it.

California is pretty much the only place you'll find trance in the states, and even so, it's pretty limited here: around Los Angeles and, to a much lesser extent, San Francisco. I don't know how Christopher Lawrence has kept the West Coast alive all these years, but thank god he has. Without him, there would be no serious center of trance in the States whatsoever.

Don't kid yourselves about Miami, or any of the urban centers of the eastern seaboard; they're all ruled by Drum n Bass, Breaks, and House. Well, except Miami, which also boasts McProg and laughably self-important "Ultra Trance Party!" toss from the likes of Acosta. Chicago is house to the core, as Detroit is techno; no trance or progressive in the church, please! Along the East it's serious business for Techno, Drum n Bass, or House, but no progressive or trance scenes exist like anywhere you'd find in Europe. Big DJ names on rotation in big fancy clubs don't count; I'm talking about grassroots.

Part of the reason that California retains a small trance scene is that it carries a strain of hedonism and mysticism whose roots extend far back to 60s counter-culture. The deserts around Los Angeles and along the border with Nevada still foster a rave scene, which tends to support trance.

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Originally posted by rustyryan whoa.. boston has a decent trance scene? where? I've been dying out there.. all ive seen are big names at the avalon.. is there anything more than clubbing there?

well, I haven't lived out there or anything, so I was mainly just going by livesets I've heard.

I've heard a couple sets from Avalon I guess, but that's about it. But Steve Porter's a Bostonian, eh? And he's equal to three trance DJs. So at least you've got that going for you.

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Originally posted by Cobalt California is pretty much the only place you'll find trance in the states, and even so, it's pretty limited here: around Los Angeles and, to a much lesser extent, San Francisco. I don't know how Christopher Lawrence has kept the West Coast alive all these years, but thank god he has. Without him, there would be no serious center of trance in the States whatsoever. Don't kid yourselves about Miami, or any of the urban centers of the eastern seaboard; they're all ruled by Drum n Bass, Breaks, and House. Well, except Miami, which also boasts McProg and laughably self-important "Ultra Trance Party!" toss from the likes of Acosta. Chicago is house to the core, as Detroit is techno; no trance or progressive in the church, please! Along the East it's serious business for Techno, Drum n Bass, or House, but no progressive or trance scenes exist like anywhere you'd find in Europe. Big DJ names on rotation in big fancy clubs don't count; I'm talking about grassroots. Part of the reason that California retains a small trance scene is that it carries a strain of hedonism and mysticism whose roots extend far back to 60s counter-culture. The deserts around Los Angeles and along the border with Nevada still foster a rave scene, which tends to support trance.

Actually trance in LA was on the out untill about a year ago when Spundae returned to Circus and started focusing on trance....since then it has been back on the rise. Apart from playing here a few times a year CL hasnt done much to keep trance alive in LA.

Re: Major trance scene in america?

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Originally posted by dj_kane where is the biggest trance scene in america? is there one? ive heard rumours that there isnt one.

Yes you heard it right, there is no trance scene in america. They feed on leftover from Europe.

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Originally posted by Cobalt California is pretty much the only place you'll find trance in the states, and even so, it's pretty limited here: around Los Angeles and, to a much lesser extent, San Francisco. I don't know how Christopher Lawrence has kept the West Coast alive all these years

One word: Asians.

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Originally posted by Ishkur One word: Asians.

HAHAH so truuuue.


I hear they have a pretty big asian trance cracker community up in van aswell.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 Actually trance in LA was on the out untill about a year ago when Spundae returned to Circus and started focusing on trance....since then it has been back on the rise. Apart from playing here a few times a year CL hasnt done much to keep trance alive in LA.

Hmm, well perhaps things have been different since I lived there (2002-2004). I know that "official" trance nights were few, and frankly I didn't go to many, but I always felt Lawrence got great respect from the rave community there, some of whom embraced his tougher style versus Mars & Mystre wank north and European epic imports.

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Originally posted by Cobalt California is pretty much the only place you'll find trance in the states, and even so, it's pretty limited here: around Los Angeles and, to a much lesser extent, San Francisco. I don't know how Christopher Lawrence has kept the West Coast alive all these years, but thank god he has. Without him, there would be no serious center of trance in the States whatsoever. Don't kid yourselves about Miami, or any of the urban centers of the eastern seaboard; they're all ruled by Drum n Bass, Breaks, and House. Well, except Miami, which also boasts McProg and laughably self-important "Ultra Trance Party!" toss from the likes of Acosta. Chicago is house to the core, as Detroit is techno; no trance or progressive in the church, please! Along the East it's serious business for Techno, Drum n Bass, or House, but no progressive or trance scenes exist like anywhere you'd find in Europe. Big DJ names on rotation in big fancy clubs don't count; I'm talking about grassroots. Part of the reason that California retains a small trance scene is that it carries a strain of hedonism and mysticism whose roots extend far back to 60s counter-culture. The deserts around Los Angeles and along the border with Nevada still foster a rave scene, which tends to support trance.

Have you been to New York for clubbing? Or even browsed NYTA to see reviews and pics of the trance events? Every big trance event here is packed to the gills. As for "grassroots," there is no "grassroots" anything in New York. You can't do anything cheaply here, which means big name DJs in large clubs is the scene.

I won't deny that house is also big here, as well as techno somewhat (there's no DnB for the most part), but to say that Cali has the only trance scene is a little ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Ishkur One word: Asians.

Another part of the reason trance has a big following in New York

i'd say the northwest is pretty good. it's a bit on the housey side but we still get the likes of armin, pvd. oakey was here last week (but that really shouldn't be a selling point lol). but i am going to andy moor next weekend. that should be fun.

i live in portland, oregon now which isn't as good as seattle. i used to live there and i used to go every other weekend.

here's a good site for an idea of what it's like:

www.nwtekno.org

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Originally posted by dj_kane with punctuation. i have to live in america for a year. i dont want to have to listen to shit for a year, i.e. drum n bass, r'n'b or house.

ha ha! what makes you think america is that cool even, to have those underground genres be popular? The radio here is classic rock, modern rock (tool, QOTSA, slipknot etc), rap (50 cent, pdiddy, eminem), country and classical. That's it bro, outside of college or alternative stations, or outside NY, LA, Miami. Miami has a nice trance scene. NY has everything. I don't know cali lately, but I'm going in may, will report back. Everywhere else, bring your ipod, and buy online vinyl. I think you should listen to country and tool for the year, then fuck a fat girl who carves eminems name in her belly in the bathroom of the orange julius at the mall. Then go to a tent revival and get saved by jesus, go home and do the drugs you bought at the tent revival while watching Survivor and American Idol all night on acid and cough syrup. Oh! and make sure to buy a gun, two of them in fact. And for god's sake don't get caught reading a book or knowing anything, as the daily state funded entertainment of bombing brown people should be enough for your diversionary pleasure. That will give you the real american experience and will fuck you up as a person and an artist. That will make you more interesting in the long run. Good luck!

On a more serious, less poetical note, austin is where I'm at basically. It's great in the south. Very good scene. Very underground. Very. We are thugs mostly. Most people are large and scary down here and thug it up a little. We have to be very open to underground hip-hop (think like jedi mind style) to survive. Trance set must be sandwiched between slices of raw hiphop to be swallowed. You must open your mind to that if you want a scene. The whole thing is VERY dark, and much more electro/IDM/industrial in it even when "trance", think James holden sound. The pvd, tiesto sound but grassroots would only be in underground gay bars in the south. That's austin. You'd have fun, but you can't expect anything but a new experience.

Global Dance Festival in Denver tomorrow. AvB, BT, Dieselboy, Motorcycle woot!

There are a couple clubs in Denver that have big names quite frequently, only each time I go there are only a handful of people who actually know who's spinning.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov It's a big country, and the scenes are centered in the bigger cities -- NY, LA, Miami, Chicago

America is not a Big Country, it's a Big Continent =)

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