Originally posted by Cobalt
Holy smokes! What a success this project was. The track selection is superb so far. Nothing less than very good.
This means a lot coming from you since I hold your opinions with high regard on this forum. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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Originally posted by Nayil
set of the yr
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Originally posted by rustyryan
bangin' set... thanks very much
You're both welcome. I like to consider this thread my 2 cents to this section. Mission Accomplished Posted by rawbound on Aug-09-2006 20:26:
Slow DL so I will have to give it a listen tomorrow.
Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-09-2006 20:49:
really any set that starts out with yoyo gets my approval hehe
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-09-2006 20:55:
The download kept stopping at random points indefinitely. I'll give it another try later.
Posted by whatsupd0g on Aug-10-2006 00:50:
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7) Mirco De Govia - Voller Sterne (Mirco De Govia Remix)
I don't know about this track being considered "timeless" or "proper" It's pretty much cheesey anthem trance, but it was definately well-placed in your set. Sprinkling an underground set with a little cheese can add more flavor, but a set full of cheese is disgusting.
I'll definately be listening to this is my car and getting back to you with it (probably not so quickly since I have a lot of other sets queued in my car). It's one of the most solid T/L's I've seen from an amateur DJ on this site spinning trance.
A lot of trance DJs are hung up on playing what everyone else is playing or playing anthems back2back, but I'm glad you decided to think differently than the pack. You've earned a lot of respect points from me.
Now the only thing I don't like is your presentation. Calling your mix "Proper Trance" only makes you as pompous as the other djs spinning only big anthems and whatnot. You can make this your general style, but making it out to be better than anything else is pretentious. Kinda like the name "progressive" for genres.. just plain stupid.
Posted by stevieboy32808 on Aug-10-2006 01:07:
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Originally posted by whatsupd0g
I don't know about this track being considered "timeless" or "proper" It's pretty much cheesey anthem trance, but it was definately well-placed in your set. Sprinkling an underground set with a little cheese can add more flavor, but a set full of cheese is disgusting.
You are entitled to that opinion, but for me 'Voller Sterne' is the best track on Mirco's Chronoscale album which is why I chose it and it fit well which you've already said.
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Originally posted by whatsupd0g
I'll definately be listening to this is my car and getting back to you with it (probably not so quickly since I have a lot of other sets queued in my car). It's one of the most solid T/L's I've seen from an amateur DJ on this site spinning trance.
A lot of trance DJs are hung up on playing what everyone else is playing or playing anthems back2back, but I'm glad you decided to think differently than the pack. You've earned a lot of respect points from me.
Indeed I am an amateur bedroom dj and might I add an obsessive one at that. Also, I'll always be an amateur because my true passion is civil engineering which I'm currently going to school for so you might notice some technical errors, but nothing too drastic.
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Originally posted by whatsupd0g
Now the only thing I don't like is your presentation. Calling your mix "Proper Trance" only makes you as pompous as the other djs spinning only big anthems and whatnot. You can make this your general style, but making it out to be better than anything else is pretentious. Kinda like the name "progressive" for genres.. just plain stupid.
Oh nooez! Please read my entire first post again. If you don't feel like it then I'll paraphrase here: Proper trance is a genre of music and not some title I made up. It used to be produced a lot back in the early to mid 90's. Only now did I ponder the question of how that music would sound like in today's times, hence the whole point of this thread.
Posted by whatsupd0g on Aug-10-2006 01:25:
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Originally posted by stevieboy32808
You are entitled to that opinion, but for me 'Voller Sterne' is the best track on Mirco's Chronoscale album which is why I chose it and it fit well which you've already said.
Indeed I am an amateur bedroom dj and might I add an obsessive one at that. Also, I'll always be an amateur because my true passion is civil engineering which I'm currently going to school for so you might notice some technical errors, but nothing too drastic.
Oh nooez! Please read my entire first post again. If you don't feel like it then I'll paraphrase here: Proper trance is a genre of music and not some title I made up. It used to be produced a lot back in the early to mid 90's. Only now did I ponder the question of how that music would sound like in today's times, hence the whole point of this thread.
I would have to disagree.
"Proper trance" was a term coined by UK tranceaddicts to seperate cheesey top40 trance (the epic, anthem, and hands up junk) vs its underground styles (goa, acid, dark, ect), with no claim to a genre or style of trance. "Proper" is the UK way of saying something's cool, good hot, bad (in a good way) ect.
Even though it may be a legit title for a DJ set album, it's about as lame as calling a set "Cool Tracks." (but with a nose-in-the-air twist by saying its "proper".) Actually "Cool tracks" sounds a lot better hahah.
Your set looks like a mixture of psychadelic trance, goa, progressive trance, and ambient trance (If you want to classify it genrewise).
Anyway, bickering over genres makes us look like pompous, pretentious know-it-all fuckwits.. Let's just play good music and keep it at that.
Hey call it whatever you want.. It's one helluva solid tracklist. Posted by Rainborn on Aug-10-2006 10:39:
The mix was good, mate, this was a good idea.
Now, I dont want to create a topic about this so I'll just ask it here if it's okay:
Rebel9, have you heard these two tracks:
Amphasis - Helix (It's on Goa Head Vol. 13)
Amphasis - Slice (On Human Arrangements)
If so, what do you think of them?
Helix sounds like No Limits by Overdog.
Slice sounds so cool... Reminds me alot of Metroid Prime with those sounds echoing in the background, and it's all hypnotic with the bassline and all.
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-10-2006 13:10:
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Originally posted by whatsupd0g
"Proper" is the UK way of saying something's cool, good hot, bad (in a good way) ect.
No it isn't.
The use of "proper" here means trance which is true to what trance was originally about. It isn't an actual genre as such- the correct one would be "Classic Trance", a name awarded retrospectively when there became new and different trance sounds. Stevieboy hasn't actually made a set of Proper Trance, but he's made a set of trance records which stay true to what Classic Trance is about, and so can be described as "proper" trance.
Posted by rustyryan on Aug-10-2006 14:16:
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Originally posted by whatsupd0g
but making it out to be better than anything else is just honest .
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seriously, though, there's a difference between anthem trance DJs claiming to be progressive. That's pretentious. There are plenty of pretentious people on TA.. most have this romantic notion of a trance 'had and lost', the kind from early-to-mid-90s. There are also those who just want to hear Classic Trance because they prefer it to the current 'Trance'. I see this as the latter, more of a pragmatic 'Lets try and find the old in the new' versus whining that 'the new sucks'.
$.02
Posted by Nayil on Aug-10-2006 15:13:
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Originally posted by whatsupd0g
I don't know about this track being considered "timeless" or "proper" It's pretty much cheesey anthem trance, but it was definately well-placed in your set. Sprinkling an underground set with a little cheese can add more flavor, but a set full of cheese is disgusting.
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Now the only thing I don't like is your presentation. Calling your mix "Proper Trance" only makes you as pompous as the other djs spinning only big anthems and whatnot. You can make this your general style, but making it out to be better than anything else is pretentious. Kinda like the name "progressive" for genres.. just plain stupid.
i honestly dont find ur argument "proper"..... it might be cheese...but steve's placement of that track was immaculate... U can make cheese sound good at times....and this is trance, cheese pop out from almost every corner..... u gotta live with it... and when mixed the right way, people need to appreciate it.
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-10-2006 21:41:
I've downloaded it, and I'm really enjoying it so far. Great stuff.
What's the tune at about 25 minutes? It sounds really familiar but none of the names on the TL fit in with the memory.
Posted by jeronimo_jd on Aug-10-2006 21:42:
this mix is overall very good, although sometimes boring moments. the mix technique is still very good. cheers!
Posted by Trance-M on Aug-11-2006 18:34:
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Originally posted by jeronimo_jd
this mix is overall very good, although sometimes boring moments. the mix technique is still very good. cheers!
I agree. Good trance, but not uplifting. Good example why ASOT is so popular. In my view the tracks sometimes lean toward Club Trance/House. Maybe even to Underworld or Chemical Brothers.
But it's a perfect example what Trance you like. I also liked this sort of tracks, e.g. "Lazonby - Scared Cycles", "Cosmic Baby - Hear Yourself Dreaming", but the uplifting ones always have been the tracks I played over and over, e.g. "Quench - Dreams", "Scooter - Unity Whitout Words Part 1", "Scooter - Cosmos", Scooter? Trance? YES (in the beginning.....), "Circuit - The Tranceport Of Love"
Rhythms are not that powerful or uplifting as ASOT tracks. Probably because classic trance nowadays is combine with the power of "German Techno", which many Europeans happen to like most.
Posted by stevieboy32808 on Aug-11-2006 19:07:
Thanks for the kind words everyone
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
What's the tune at about 25 minutes? It sounds really familiar but none of the names on the TL fit in with the memory.
Sister Bliss - Deliver Me
Posted by PEZ68 on Aug-11-2006 19:22:
I'm downloading now
Posted by DJ Dingel on Apr-03-2011 21:38:
I wound up listening to this again this afternoon.
What would an effort with 2006-2011 trance sound like? I don't listen to enough recent trance to be able to suggest many tunes. Perhaps some Aril Brikha or Satoshi Fumi would fit the bill?
The previous effort had Jaia & Vibrasphere; I think this 2009 release is eligible:
Posted by SYSTEM-J on Apr-03-2011 23:21:
I still have this set on my HD. Might give it another listen.
I imagine an effort based on 2006-2011 stuff would still be predominantly prog-psy and J00F selections, with the trancier end of the Mistique stuff getting a look in as well. Certainly an interesting proposition, though.
