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Originally posted by dj_bas K is soooooo much fun.

W3rd.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous ...it's a quote from a tv series that aired on Lifetime ( )...the quote was then sampled by Lawler & others...hence the reason for my posting it...not 'cuz I think it's true. /actual response.

I know

MDMA is stupidly safe. You're probably about as likely to die from lightning striking you as you are from doing pure MDMA, if not less so.

lol k..... so many memories i wish i still had lol

i did two bumps on sat morning when i ran out of yay. stood up, yelled "holy shit im fucked" managed two full steps and fell flat on my face in my tent lol.


i dont do it toooo often but wow it is kinda fun.....

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp lol k..... so many memories i wish i still had lol i did two bumps on sat morning when i ran out of yay. stood up, yelled "holy shit im fucked" managed two full steps and fell flat on my face in my tent lol. i dont do it toooo often but wow it is kinda fun.....

LOL

Oh man, brings back the memories

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp lol k..... so many memories i wish i still had lol

perfect!!!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard What you described is not responsibility.

I think she was pointing out the fact that you aren't going to be responsible when you're in a state like that. You aren't going to question things you would normally question sober. Therefore interfering with your normal judgement.

moral i hope your kickin around the KW when i come up in a couple weeks lol.......... this has the potential for goodtimes

remember. sum total of everything is constant. Too much artificial bliss now will be compensated with equal pain in the future. Harsh but true.

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Originally posted by placebo I think she was pointing out the fact that you aren't going to be responsible when you're in a state like that. You aren't going to question things you would normally question sober. Therefore interfering with your normal judgement.

if you are not in a state of mind in which you can make responsible decisions then your initial substance usage was clearly not responsible either as it would be irresponsible to intoxicate ones self to the point that they cannot make reasonable and rational decisions. That is what I meant by what she described was not responsibility.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp moral i hope your kickin around the KW when i come up in a couple weeks lol.......... this has the potential for goodtimes

I'm always there!.... unless I'm elsewhere in which case I would not be there. Well, I suppose that resolved nothing whatsoever.

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp lol k..... so many memories i wish i still had lol i did two bumps on sat morning when i ran out of yay. stood up, yelled "holy shit im fucked" managed two full steps and fell flat on my face in my tent lol. i dont do it toooo often but wow it is kinda fun.....

hahaha quality!!

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Originally posted by Slylee lol @ "smart, responsible drug users". every illegal drug you take (and even prescriptions if you want to get all technical) is dangerous....no matter what. no matter if u have a dumb little test kit and drink water and bla bla bla... it's a risk that all drug users take to get a high and to have a good time supposedly. and to me, if you are willing to take that risk and risk your life, then you aren't that responsible or smart. i'm not saying you're stupid though...no offense, i know i seem like a big hipocrite here, but that's why i dont like to do drugs any more. there's only so much you can do to prevent ODing or even dying...but like i said, there's risk involved every single time you do drugs. i'm not excluding alcohol either.

+sideways 8

crossing the street is more dangerous then popping a pill...heck....waking up and walking to the bathroom in the middle of the night is more dangerous.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard if you are not in a state of mind in which you can make responsible decisions then your initial substance usage was clearly not responsible either as it would be irresponsible to intoxicate ones self to the point that they cannot make reasonable and rational decisions. That is what I meant by what she described was not responsibility.

well taking a drug that could ultimately make you irresponsible is irresponsible in itself.

Family Guy on Ecstasy.

Responsibility is all relative, it's right up there with things like "fairness" and "innocence". For instance, let's say you hop a jet and that jet flies into the ground and you die. You probably well knew that jets might kill you in rare circumstances, so you hold a partial responsibility for getting on that jet, and thus, getting on the plane was irresponsible.

When an individual performs any actions with risks, they are considered irresponsible if things goes wrong and triumphant if things go right, especially socially.

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Originally posted by Lephaid Responsibility is all relative, it's right up there with things like "fairness" and "innocence". For instance, let's say you hop a jet and that jet flies into the ground and you die. You probably well knew that jets might kill you in rare circumstances, so you hold a partial responsibility for getting on that jet, and thus, getting on the plane was irresponsible. When an individual performs any actions with risks, they are considered irresponsible if things goes wrong and triumphant if things go right, especially socially.

the jet scenario is way to vague to work. If you got on a jet that you knew or ought to have known had a defect that could cause the plane to crash then it could be considered irresponsible. To get on a plane that you know is in perfect running condition then you would have no responsibility if the stupid thing crashed.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm always there!.... unless I'm elsewhere in which case I would not be there. Well, I suppose that resolved nothing whatsoever.

I have read this whole entire thread and that made me laugh my ass off. But to get to the E point, I have been rolling for over 13 years, and most people that I have met in those years are not dead nor are they stupid. I think E changed my life in a very positive way. I love to roll and the sex on E is amazing. I have said this all before. Know who you get your pills from, where you will be, dont drive, and dont get overheated. As far as anything else that you can do with E like shrooms, pot, acid, K, I have done it all and 99% of the time I had a blast. Only once, did I have an out of body experience and I gave that night the ultimate thumbs up! It was beautiful, would I do it again, no I'm in my 40's now and way to "responsible" to ever do that again. Does anyone ever think that you may not be allowed to be happy in this country? The press picks on E, yet so many people, where I live, are dying from heroin. Why dont they pick on something that will kill you for sure and leave us to roll and be fucking happy!!

No one would get on a plane that they knew was going to crash, would they?

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Originally posted by Lephaid Responsibility is all relative, it's right up there with things like "fairness" and "innocence". For instance, let's say you hop a jet and that jet flies into the ground and you die. You probably well knew that jets might kill you in rare circumstances, so you hold a partial responsibility for getting on that jet, and thus, getting on the plane was irresponsible. When an individual performs any actions with risks, they are considered irresponsible if things goes wrong and triumphant if things go right, especially socially.

yea but you might have needed to get in the jet for a very valid reason, like a business trip. you don't "need" to take drugs. you want to take them for the high. the difference is in the motive.

There is certainly no physical threat to you if you turn down a business trip. Only a monetary and material one. You don't 'need' to do anything in this world. You just choose to because you think it feels good.

how long does exstacy stay in your system?

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Originally posted by Lephaid There is certainly no physical threat to you if you turn down a business trip. Only a monetary and material one. You don't 'need' to do anything in this world. You just choose to because you think it feels good.

ok but you dont really go and fly on the jet for the business trip to get high do you? lol


drugs are meant for one thing only...to escape reality. it's a choice, and the drugs are dangerous to your body, so it's a risk you take every time. that's all i'm saying. taking drugs in general is being irresponsible in regards to taking care of your body.


and yes, there are other scenerios that you could relate to this...sky diving for example. people do it for the rush and you put yourself at risk every time. i realize that. i, myself dont have a desire to jump out of a plane for a rush, but that's just me.

but stop talking about, "oh walking across the street is putting yourself at risk for bla bla bla" yea no shit... but this is all about what you're doing to your mind and body and i just really get annoyed when people justify drug use and act like it's perfectly safe and fool proof/death proof. it's not. just accept it. shit, i was the biggest fucking cokehead on this website about a year ago and even at the time, i was willing to admit all this.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller how long does exstacy stay in your system?

About 3-4 days. The active metabolite MDA, which MDMA is demethylated to in small amounts by your body, lasts a fair bit longer, I think about 8 days. Methamphetamine/amphetamine (often in pills) is mostly out of you by 3-6 days.

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