Roll Call: Industry 10yr Reunion w/ MARK FARINA, Matt C, Kenny Glasgow - Sun @ Sonic

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Posted by infinity HiGH on Aug-01-2006 18:31:

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Originally posted by Special K
link?

I'll re-up it when I get home today.

Posted by geroin on Aug-01-2006 19:02:

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Originally posted by Floorwhore
whats the old saying? you snooze you lose?

this thread was posted well before the night of the event.....

you had an opportunity to get tickets in advance for $20.
you also had an opportunity for $30 if you came before 1am, OR $30 up until 3am if you contacted myself for guestlist.

i'm sorry you ended up paying more than what you felt was appropriate, but like any club in the city.... if you show up at the door late, with no guestlist - expect higher cover.

i understand what you're saying and its totally my fault for coming after 1 am but i was assuming that there would be no alcohol sold there, thats why i paid such a high cover and then later on i find out that it is being sold. I'm sorry but even guvernment does not charge more than 20bucks for a serious headliner and i see 30 or 40 dollar cover at sonic for the same price of decadence which btw had at least 4 serious headliners. I'm just trying to see the logic behind this.
My question is, why the cover is so high when alcohol is being sold?

Posted by DigDeep on Aug-01-2006 19:59:

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Originally posted by geroin
i understand what you're saying and its totally my fault for coming after 1 am but i was assuming that there would be no alcohol sold there, thats why i paid such a high cover and then later on i find out that it is being sold. I'm sorry but even guvernment does not charge more than 20bucks for a serious headliner and i see 30 or 40 dollar cover at sonic for the same price of decadence which btw had at least 4 serious headliners. I'm just trying to see the logic behind this.
My question is, why the cover is so high when alcohol is being sold?

Why was it this expensive at the Docks last year? They sold booze as well. They also have a higher capacity. So does the Guvernment. To compare a Guvernment all access event and a special event at Sonic is rediculous. What is the capacity of the entire Guv complex again... 6000? 7000? Sonic can hold roughly 15-20% of that amount of people.

So to answer your question, there are many factors that contribute to costs when running an event. We at Sonic choose to provide an environment that is safe, and comfortable for people who attend. We could realistically ram another couple hundred people in the building for these events, which in turn could lower the cost of cover $5 or $10 but quite frankly... dont want to be known for that.

And the general feedback of those who attend Sonic on a regular basis is that they would rather pay the extra cover to ensure that they aren't rubbing elbows with the person next to them.

Posted by The Highroller on Aug-01-2006 20:10:

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Originally posted by Floorwhore
And the general feedback of those who attend Sonic on a regular basis is that they would rather pay the extra cover to ensure that they aren't rubbing elbows with the person next to them.

Agreed.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Aug-01-2006 20:13:

I dont really see whats so ridiculous about the pricetag for this party.

If its so expensive then just go for some sub-par party at Guvernment.

"You get what you pay for"...no?

Posted by geroin on Aug-01-2006 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
Why was it this expensive at the Docks last year? They sold booze as well. They also have a higher capacity. So does the Guvernment. To compare a Guvernment all access event and a special event at Sonic is rediculous. What is the capacity of the entire Guv complex again... 6000? 7000? Sonic can hold roughly 15-20% of that amount of people.

So to answer your question, there are many factors that contribute to costs when running an event. We at Sonic choose to provide an environment that is safe, and comfortable for people who attend. We could realistically ram another couple hundred people in the building for these events, but quite frankly... dont want to be known for that.

what docks event are you referring to and how many djs were attending? Guvernment main rooms capacity is 1600 people, from what you just said Sonics capacity is roughly 1300 people yet the management charges twice as much for the cover.

Your second paragraph is completely irrelevant to my question because that does not answer why do you charge so much but i will reply anyway. What does safe and comfortable environment have to do with the high cover price? I go to many clubs for 10-20 bucks and i feel very safe. Realistically you could and you should fill up the club because last time i was there for Vibe it was not full at all BUT for C&C the club was packed to shit so you do ram it when necesarry so that makes your statement false. Maybe if you did charge a little less for the cover more people would attend these Sonic events. I for one love Sonic but im not ready to pay such a high cover price, especially when alcohol is going to be sold which is a big factor.

Posted by DigDeep on Aug-01-2006 20:20:

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Originally posted by geroin
I for one love Sonic but im not ready to pay such a high cover price

do you think that bitching about the cover is going to make management think twice about lowering it? if you can't justify the cover, simple..... dont come.

Posted by The Highroller on Aug-01-2006 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
what docks event are you referring to and how many djs were attending? Guvernment main rooms capacity is 1600 people, from what you just said Sonics capacity is roughly 1300 people yet the management charges twice as much for the cover.

Your second paragraph is completely irrelevant to my question because that does not answer why do you charge so much but i will reply anyway. What does safe and comfortable environment have to do with the high cover price? I go to many clubs for 10-20 bucks and i feel very safe. Realistically you could and you should fill up the club because last time i was there for Vibe it was not full at all BUT for C&C the club was packed to shit so you do ram it when necesarry so that makes your statement false. Maybe if you did charge a little less for the cover more people would attend these Sonic events. I for one love Sonic but im not ready to pay such a high cover price, especially when alcohol is going to be sold which is a big factor.

What?

Posted by DigDeep on Aug-01-2006 20:25:

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Originally posted by geroin
Guvernment main rooms capacity is 1600 people

You compared this event to an all access Guvernment event which would include every room in the complex. Dont change the comparison to simply favor your argument.

Posted by geroin on Aug-01-2006 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorwhore
do you think that bitching about the cover is going to make management think twice about lowering it? if you can't justify the cover, simple..... dont come.

thank you for answering my question.

Posted by DigDeep on Aug-01-2006 20:32:

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Originally posted by geroin
thank you for answering my question.

what did you expect, me to roll out all the costs that factor into the night? dj's wage, security, rent, promoters, maintenence, etc? dude you're asking a question that quite frankly is none of your business. here is what applies to you....

Cover: $30 in advance, $40 at the door.

now ask yourself a question.... to go, or not to go?

if the answer is 'to go' - you know your options.

if the answer is 'not to go' - then slowly back out of the roll call which now doesn't apply to you anyway, and find a party better suited for your own personal enjoyment and which offers you better value.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Aug-01-2006 20:32:

Here's how I think management justified the price:

Because that's what they want to charge.

Obviously there's a lot of factors that went into deciding the final price, from how much they have to pay the DJ, to how much profit they want to pull in, to overhead costs, and FINALLY (and most importantly imo) what number isn't too low to attract a bunch of fucktards, but not too high to alienate their target market (which isn't the regular club crowd that goes to Guvernment with whistles and glowsticks). I'm 100% sure that the club will be packed and that people will have a good time.

Posted by geroin on Aug-01-2006 20:37:

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Originally posted by Floorwhore
You compared this event to an all access Guvernment event which would include every room in the complex. Dont change the comparison to simply favor your argument.

It was both, I compared Your event to a similar GUV main room event which has a close capacity to Sonic

quote:
there are many factors that contribute to costs when running an event.

what about guv events? you think they dont? i bet they cost twice as much with all the staff working there but again, the most they charge is 20bucks.

Posted by geroin on Aug-01-2006 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Here's how I think management justified the price:

Because that's what they want to charge.

Obviously there's a lot of factors that went into deciding the final price, from how much they have to pay the DJ, to how much profit they want to pull in, to overhead costs, and FINALLY (and most importantly imo) what number isn't too low to attract a bunch of fucktards, but not too high to alienate their target market (which isn't the regular club crowd that goes to Guvernment with whistles and glowsticks). I'm 100% sure that the club will be packed and that people will have a good time.

Thank you, i think this answered my question pretty nicely.

Posted by StereoPrincess on Aug-01-2006 20:43:

no fucktards please.

Posted by infinity HiGH on Aug-01-2006 20:48:

Heheh, the way I see it is this:

Sonic = Steak Dinner with garlic mashed, and greens. Costs a little more, but you are getting a quality meal in the end.

Guvernment = Supersized McDeal Meal. You're getting a big meal at a fantastic price, but it's a little greasy around the edges, and it may cause you to vomit.

That doesn't mean that one is better than the other; just one caters to different needs. Sonic, or the 270 space more specifically, has always been about QUALITY, no matter what the cost. That's not to say that Guv can't give you a good meal; just that it's a little more hit and miss