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Originally posted by GQMr2 he means paul did not make a mistake at the moment such as: hitting the wrong key on his laptop, the power button, or closing the lid causing it to goto stand-by, the error came randomly from the software itself making it "not his fault". Choosing Ableton for his gigs is also not a fault of his, avoiding a type of equipment because of the error chance is just silly. cds skip, needles jump, lappys crash. As far as Ableton "doing the mixing for you", that is irrelevant. He is not mixing with Ableton. He is layering multiple tracks and samples to create music on the fly. Yes to the regular joe this all sounds the same because they have never heard the original track to begin with. However, from the DJ perspective, it gets boring mixing in and out of tracks after you have done it for over a decade: he's keeping himself from getting bored, and at the same time giving the hardcore fans [TA] something new to listen to. Hope that confused you silly.

First of all..

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Originally posted by djquick83 Mixing with ableton just sucks ass, not his fault, but thats just the way it is when the computer does it for u.

This is all the dude said. He didn't mention a specific error or what he was talking about. Hence, confusion about how the phrase "not his fault" applied to Ableton when Ableton is EASY STREET.

P.S. I know how Ableton works, dude. I can hear layering too, it's not only for your special little DJ ears. And it's led partially to the downfall of PVD (well, not only that, but just that the music PVD plays sucks in general ) and, what upset me more, Sasha!! And sorry, playing the same boring tracks PVD always plays, but now LAYERING THEM, is not gonna make it more exciting. Wake up!! Take an example from Zabiela!

It's not all the DJs' fault. Ableton is almost a necessity today so that DJ's can feed our little ADD minds and not bore us with simple track-to-track transitions. Soon people will be switching tracks every 30 secs.

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Originally posted by emc^2 Of course he was having a blast - he just got signed up for radio show on sat radio. A steady source of income, just in case this "ableton" thingie doesn't work out.

Yeah, probably not.... He's had a pretty steady, lucrative source of income for years now. I don't think the radio show had anything to do with his mood.

I'm baaaack where WAS everybody?

Anyway, all I have to say is:

THE FREAK PRESENTS EXO-ABOVE THE CLOUDS!!!!!!!! I screamed like a little bitch. That was amazing. P.S. - That was 1 or 2 songs before For an Angel/Time of Our Lives finish. Don't know if it was Mark Norman remix, or extended, or he just fucked with it, but I was freaking.

People DID look like freaking noobs, passing out at 8 o'clock-pussies. And what was that U2-With or Without You mix?

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Originally posted by emc^2 Anyone wants to wager that PvD won't be #1 DJ this year? It definitely has been year of The Armin. AvB for President in 2008! We need another Van Buuren in the White House. I'll definitely attend his inaguration set.

part of me almost doesnt want that to happen because of this strange curse that being voted #1 has on dj's that i like (aka tiesto and now pvd).

maybe it is just me but i see people in this threads and in other pvd review threads talking about him playing "hard" tracks. i just dont get it. when i think of hard tracks i think of the stuff he used to play like:

dreamland
club attack
desire (4 strings mix)
M (above and byond mix)
sun decade - i'm alone
modulation - spirits
st john vs locust - mind circles

(this is only a few tracks that i looked up from the rips of his livesets that i have collected over the years)

this stuff he spins now just isnt hard. the buildups suck, the melodies are just meeh. he sounds nothing like he used to. you could say "he just changed his style, it evolved and maybe you should to." I'm sorry i just dont feel that way. i know that trance doesnt sound like it did 4 or so years ago, or even further back then but there is still good stuff out there. i mean look at the last 2 1/2 hours of armin's brooklyn set. awesome energy and songs that werent as slow as 100 bpm. i would have killed to hear a song like lift, exactly, or even arisen last night.

i just cant believe that i used to love pvd so much when i first started going to see him live back in 02 and he plays like this now. last night was the final straw, i'm done paying $30 and up to see him when he comes here.

i can understand the first 45 minutes of last night being a more mellow tempo begining because a: it's daylight and b: cause of that drummer playing along to the music. by about 7 or so he had lost me. i kept saying that all i wanted was for pvd to give the drummer a nice 5 minute solo and then get him the fuck off the stage. ok a interesting gimmick having him play live, yes but not the whole night.

pvd may not consider himself a trance dj, but that is what made him famous. he needs to go back to that. i just dont consider what he plays trance anymore. very little of what he played last night had that "trancy feel" to it that you would get when he used to play NY. i have talked to people that have seen him recently in berlin and elsewhere besides here and say he plays completely different. why did he stop playing that way in NY?

overall if i had wanted to hear the tempo of the set that was going to be played last night, i would want to hear that stuff sitting at home, not when i am out trying to dance.

i'm glad that some of you had a good time. i wish i did. seems like i have said that too much the past few pvd gigs that i have gone to.

i screamed like a little bitch for starry skies v
it was my fsist time hearing it and it made me excited lol

i didnt relaly see anyone passing out, i was up front about 95% of the tme he playd.. the other tmie was to get a drink or sit on a bleacher for a min cuz my knee started acting up

Wait, I forgot to mention: Dogzilla-Without You always a crowd-pleaser, except...I was the ONLY person singing along. Oh, and just from a drummer's perspective, that fucking ROCKED! I wish that was ME on-stage! But, I'd kick more ass

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Originally posted by pvd420 when i think of hard tracks i think of the stuff he used to play like: dreamland club attack desire (4 strings mix) M (above and byond mix) sun decade - i'm alone modulation - spirits st john vs locust - mind circles

none of those are hard at all. as for pvd not playing a lot of trance, i feel like thats almost ALWAYS been his style. especially in nyc. whenever i've seen him spin, he'll play mostly techy, tribal stuff, and throw in the trance tracks in between all that. sometimes he'll go on a lil trance run and spin 4 or 5 together, but he usually doesn't go trancy much longer than that, ever. i agree yesterday didn't have too many uplifting tracks though.

re-reading your review, i think you have a misunderstanding of what a "hard" track is. lotta people seem to be stuck on the idea that pvd only spins trance. sure if you listen to his politics of dancing cds, and even his own productions, all are very trancy. i've never found his livesets to have that very trancy feel imo.

disappointed in the entire experience. i got there at 4:30 to wait in some long line got transfered to another line then back to the first then another line then another line. The beginning of PvD's set wasn't aweful, but I spent a majority of my time talking because the music did nothing for me. Forced myself to go out on the dance floor a couple times and that didn't work(at one point got all the way to the front and got beer spilled on me :mad. I found myself yawning and towards the end of my time there sat on a bench talking on the phone. The lazers were good but my so-so wine spritzer was the highlight of the evening. I left at 9:00 and I really should have left ~7:30.

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Originally posted by Stunade Wait, I forgot to mention: Dogzilla-Without You always a crowd-pleaser, except...I was the ONLY person singing along. Oh, and just from a drummer's perspective, that fucking ROCKED! I wish that was ME on-stage! But, I'd kick more ass

i was waiting on the 45 minute br line when he dropped it. couldn't leave the line though... fluids must be drained!

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Originally posted by trancinchink none of those are hard at all. as for pvd not playing a lot of trance, i feel like thats almost ALWAYS been his style. especially in nyc. whenever i've seen him spin, he'll play mostly techy, tribal stuff, and throw in the trance tracks in between all that. sometimes he'll go on a lil trance run and spin 4 or 5 together, but he usually doesn't go trancy much longer than that, ever. i agree yesterday didn't have too many uplifting tracks though. re-reading your review, i think you have a misunderstanding of what a "hard" track is. lotta people seem to be stuck on the idea that pvd only spins trance. sure if you listen to his politics of dancing cds, and even his own productions, all are very trancy. i've never found his livesets to have that very trancy feel imo.

so what would be a good word to describe those types of tracks? i guess hard comes to mind for me because the bpm is up there and they are uplifting.

and as for him not playing trancy, his gigs at soundfactory, exit, and roxy in 02 felt very trancy to me. i felt that a good part of his sets then would be trancy and then for an hour (or two depending on how long his set was) would be tribal and breaks type stuff. if you listen to the set that was recorded at roxy back in nov of 03 (i think), he starts out with a lot of uplifting stuff and then from 4-6 he went with more down tempo stuff before banging it out again from 6-8.

for the record the original tpod is a great pair of discs (as already everyone knows), but i wouldnt want to hear a lot of the stuff from the first disc when i am out at a club because it is too slow. that tempo is for sitting at home or in the car. the second one is more of a liveset feel.

so i might be wrong about what a hard track is. give me an example or two of what a "hard" track is so i can clarify what exactly i like.

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Originally posted by Stunade Wait, I forgot to mention: Dogzilla-Without You always a crowd-pleaser, except...I was the ONLY person singing along. Oh, and just from a drummer's perspective, that fucking ROCKED! I wish that was ME on-stage! But, I'd kick more ass

trust me you werent the ONLY one
i pretty much sang all the vocal songs that he played that ive heard before and knew the lyrics to

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Originally posted by stan229 trust me you werent the ONLY one i pretty much sang all the vocal songs that he played that ive heard before and knew the lyrics to

+1

What a waste of $40 dollars. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I really can't understand why anyone would think PvD's set last night was amazing or mind blowing. It was boring, his mixing was shit, the drummer in the background just ruined it even more, and I was almost falling asleep. I left at about 9:30 when I heard him play another mix of The Other Side. The last time I saw PvD and truely enjoyed it was probably in 2002 or 2003. Last night reminded me why I never go to PvD's shows anymore. Bad.

meh..i told my friends that when PVD became number 1 that he wasnt gonna be there long. His performance last night pretty much verified my statement. the first 2 and a half hours were unbelievably booooring. i mean c'mon...your the number 1 dj in the world and u let tracks drag out beginning to end and even loop it to last longer.

Then the set got energetic for like a half hour when he had multiple tracks playing together and was doin his 3 minute mix thing, then it died out for like another 45 mins and then at the end he dropped for an angel and time of our lives which are both solid tracks that are always fun hearing live.

But anyways, he was defintely disappointing, he didnt even have a good opener, a lot of times he is creative with his openings but yesterday was the exception. He also played some cool tracks, but overall i wasnt impressed with track selection and the way he built up his set.

and i disagree with those of u who said last year sucked, i had a waaay better time last year than i did this year, he started strong and ended strong, the energy didnt drop for 1 second. This year the crowd didnt even look into it for the most part, everyone was conversing more than they were enjoying the show, thats an obvious sign of things needing to change.

had a pretty great time last nite, thought he threw down a pretty nice set imo..wasn't there from the start but stepped in right as he dropped Rank 1 - Life Less Ordinary, went over and grabbed some beer..after spendin 35min for the bathroom i decided it was better to be somewhat sober and dancin then drunk and watchin paul from a line but on to the more important bits..

ive never seen a dj so active behind the decks! it seemed like everytime i looked up he was clappin, jumpin up and down, smilin from ear to ear and just havin a great time...mixing seemed decent, or at least from 7 - 8 he seemed to be in a groove, transitioning btwn tracks pretty quickly and keepin up the energy...he def slowed things down a bit and the last 40 min were a lil predictable but fun nonetheless..he dropped stormy skies which was just ok, and complicated i was not a fan of at all.. ..i did like his mashup of playmo/ATRC early on and there was a few min that was straight out of his set from this year's coloursfest..think it was a transition into Rob Van Gelderen - This Way (Rank 1 Remix)..lasers/light set up was awesome, def better effect without a tent over em

overall i had a great time, it was nice seein a lot of guys out again and at the afterparty too, ryan and vic's sets were def solid..got to hear mindcircus for the first time on a big system which made my night..left right around 4 so i could get some rest for Rd. 2...see ya'll there

pics
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...VD_CP_08182006/

His set was fine, the crowd was horrible, but ive become accustomed to that at his gigs recently.

As ive probably been going to see pvd spin for a lot longer than most people on this board i can say that this was not his best, nor his worst, but was just a solid pvd set. Hard beats, breaks, techno and trance....just like you would expect from him.

The one thing i REALLY disliked was the live drummer. While he was talented, i feel that live drummers just do not belong in edm sets. Not only can a live drummer not keep up with a computerized drum pattern but on top of that his high hats were falling on the beats of the tracks as well, making it sound like pvd was messing up his mixes.

gonna grab a bottle of wine with the old lady and go sit outside his show tonight and just listen and enjoy.

oh, and what is with all the pushing that goes on in the crowd? what the fuck?

the pushin and the people jumpin gnot knowing whats aronud them and stepping on your feet or practically fallling on oyu.. if it wasnt for the good tracks in teh last hour i dont know what i would do cuz it was like a moshpit there lol i had no room to even move my feet

totally agreed, i mean, i dont expect a summer of 97 show at twilo with 800 people there, i know its gonna be crowded, but still......... respect for people and for the music was totally lacking last night on the floor. if you left the floor on the outskirts seemed to be the most intelligent/chilled out folks

ill keep my review short despite the precedents the previous TAs have set..

1) this set was pathetic compared to last year's CP and roseland

2) the drummer was amazing & i'm surprised he kept up the whole night... PvD could learn a lot about music from him

3) what the hell was with the music in the beginning, you know, the Showtime softcore porn music they were playing... it was horrible and i never want to hear it again

ATTN PVD
Get your head out of your ass & make up for this travesty, this poor excuse for a trance event. Make up for it at Roseland or you & tiesto will be fighting for #50. Armin, Above & Beyond, Matthew Dekay, Serge Devant, and Jason Jollins are getting my votes.

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Originally posted by Hassassin this set was pathetic compared to last year's CP

WOW. That doesn't say a lot.

I don't know. I'm going to have to agree with Hog. his opening was great n a little after it...but I was fooled as the night progressed. around 8ish he was putting me to sleep. in all the times I've seen him, I never expected him to disappoint me but yesterday he did. he did play some nice new tunes but 'other side' twice?

the lights were great. nice job by made, had a better time looking at the trees lol. but let me point this out since nobody has....the sound just SUCKED BALLS!! why don't they put speakers in the back on stands or something. armin @ tobacco warehouse was perfect, that's exactly how they should of set it up. not just 1 on each side of the stage.

let me also point out that he came on too late. bringing the tent down, putting cardboard around the equipment, covering the decks...the staff was just confused. I would of had a better time listening to the caribbean music all night- sarcasm.

overall,

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Originally posted by stan229 trust me you werent the ONLY one i pretty much sang all the vocal songs that he played that ive heard before and knew the lyrics to

I guess he had a unfamiliar track selection.

Now i am very happy..

You folks are getting steamed over his playing one track 2 times?

Good thing most of you weren't there in '03 when he dropped ATRC 3 times.

i was dissapointed with his last night set also. it was worst set i've heard from him yet

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