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Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-06-2006 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
there's a difference between getting close for study and observation (like most documentarians) and manhandling dangerous animals like irwin.
yes, documentaries are an incredible source of information, but you don't need to jump on a crocodile, stick your head in its mouth, and poke it in the eye with a stick to learn that its teeth are sharp.

respect to the guy for loving animals and being truly committed to the environment (though he chose conservation over preservation), but he took uneccessary and foolhardy risks.

anyone who works with feral animals is in some degree of danger, but certain people, for reasons ranging from over-the-top exhuberance (irwin) to their own pathologies (timothy treadwell), increase the danger exponentially. [go watch "grizzly man" the documentary about the bear-loving treadwell who was mauled to death, along with his girlfriend, by the subjects he so admired]



Thanks Nick....you always have the right words and ways of saying things....what you said is EXACTLEY what i wanted to convey....maybe you posted to help me along...lol...thanks either or brother.
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quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
and as for roy who was attacked by the tiger in vegas: you force a tiger to ride tricycles in a funny hat around a casino and sooner or later you're gonna have probs...



LOL LMAO...so friggen true!!


Posted by dj tek on Sep-06-2006 19:01:

how bout samuel l jackson ? he got eaten by a shark !


Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-07-2006 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
there's a difference between getting close for study and observation (like most documentarians) and manhandling dangerous animals like irwin.
yes, documentaries are an incredible source of information, but you don't need to jump on a crocodile, stick your head in its mouth, and poke it in the eye with a stick to learn that its teeth are sharp.




Well when you come up with a better way to move crocs away from humans and back into their natural habitat I'm sure they would like to hear about it......


Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-07-2006 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by ludawg23
Your comparison here has no reference to stingrays and is completely retarded. Stingsrays are considered non-lethal animals and to reference them against deadly fires and firearms is irrelevant.

There's a reason why stingrays are in the petting areas of aquariums and what not. If you saw a stingray in the ocean, would you naturally be afraid of it in comparison to that of a...shark? I don't think so.


That's because I was not referring them to Sting Rays or any other animal for that matter. My comments were directed torwards what he was saying about..."Animals are dangerous so leave them alone." Sorry but that's not a good enough reason.


Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-07-2006 00:30:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
That's because I was not referring them to Sting Rays or any other animal for that matter. My comments were directed torwards what he was saying about..."Animals are dangerous so leave them alone." Sorry but that's not a good enough reason.



when i said leave them alone i meant how would you like it if some greater species came into your house and started poking you in the head to evoke some sort of reaction from you...which is what irwin did.


Posted by vtec junkie on Sep-07-2006 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
when i said leave them alone i meant how would you like it if some greater species came into your house and started poking you in the head to evoke some sort of reaction from you...which is was irwin did.


Poked him in the head huh? Right....


Posted by tiesto14 on Sep-07-2006 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
Poked him in the head huh? Right....



ok fine break into your house and lift you up, move you around, etc etc which is what he did to snakes and many other creatures.


Posted by kadomony on Sep-07-2006 00:47:

but seriously, you think those animals gave a shit after he put them back?
they wouldnt be like "damn that ****** just picked me up. i didnt like that. im going to remeber this guy for next time and make sure i get out of his way"

more like:
"unusual situation. fight/flight. ok back on ground. where's food?"


Posted by colibri on Sep-07-2006 00:52:

hunters have a complex

and lack the most basic sense of human sensitivity...


Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-07-2006 04:41:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
ok fine break into your house and lift you up, move you around, etc etc which is what he did to snakes and many other creatures.

Damn that Steven Irwin for picking up the kangaroo that got itself all tangled up in a fence and would have died if left there. Damn him again for jumping up on that croc and relocating it back into the wild instead of leaving him in that persons back yard where it probably would have killed someone or gotten hit by a car. Damn him for doing the same thing to a snake that could have been in the same situation as that croc.

Honestly, did you ever watch the damn show and see what he does and why he does it?


Posted by Shamez214 on Sep-07-2006 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
but seriously, you think those animals gave a shit after he put them back?
they wouldnt be like "damn that ****** just picked me up. i didnt like that. im going to remeber this guy for next time and make sure i get out of his way"

more like:
"unusual situation. fight/flight. ok back on ground. where's food?"


Yup.


Posted by euphoria on Sep-07-2006 13:34:

quote:
Originally posted by ludawg23
If you saw a stingray in the ocean, would you naturally be afraid of it in comparison to that of a...shark? I don't think so.


I would now


Posted by AY STAR on Sep-07-2006 15:44:

i was readin in the paper yesterday
and irwins lawyer was asked if he seen the tape and he said he did and he said that steve dident seem to be too close to the sting ray when he attacked him
like he wassent touching it or on top of it like he is usually doing with animals
the sting ray just felt his space was being violated i guess and attacked him
who knows tho


Posted by BiG MiKE on Sep-07-2006 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
i was readin in the paper yesterday
and irwins lawyer was asked if he seen the tape and he said he did and he said that steve dident seem to be too close to the sting ray when he attacked him
like he wassent touching it or on top of it like he is usually doing with animals
the sting ray just felt his space was being violated i guess and attacked him
who knows tho


CNN has some videos based on stingrays.. Talking about their characteristics and such.. Check it out if u can.


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-07-2006 19:56:

Anti-hunters have a complex

quote:
Originally posted by colibri
and lack the most basic sense of human intelligence...

Fixed


Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Sep-07-2006 20:46:

Rest in Peace Steve Irwin.... he really was a great character that guy, its a shame that he had to die


Posted by colibri on Sep-07-2006 23:18:

l i f e n e r g y

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
fixed



hunters are 1st class cowards it is pitiful how someone
can enjoy such activity instead of contemplating nature
creating art or helping others i would never associate with
a person who hunts for entertainment i find it to be the
most distasteful endeavor taking a life



Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-08-2006 00:21:

Re: l i f e n e r g y

quote:
Originally posted by colibri
hunters are 1st class cowards it is pitiful how someone
can enjoy such activity instead of contemplating nature
creating art or helping others i would never associate with
a person who hunts for entertainment i find it to be the
most distasteful endeavor taking a life



I'm sure that elephant enjoyed having a camera stuck in it's eye for your art.

And by the way, hunting is helping people, not to mention the animal populations. Since we've already done this once, I'm not going to bother re-explaining, though. It's obvious that your feelings and sensitivities have gotten in the way of your logic and I'm not going to change that.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Sep-08-2006 02:56:

Re: Re: l i f e n e r g y

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I'm sure that elephant enjoyed having a camera stuck in it's eye for your art.

And by the way, hunting is helping people, not to mention the animal populations. Since we've already done this once, I'm not going to bother re-explaining, though. It's obvious that your feelings and sensitivities have gotten in the way of your logic and I'm not going to change that.

I think he means hunting for sport. Ya know, shooting the biggest deer in the forrest for a trophy and not even using it for the meat and eating it.

That's the only shit that pisses me off. But if you hunt to feed yourself, well that is a different story for me atleast.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Sep-08-2006 03:12:

i don't think this was much of a suprise

i'd relate it to people that climb mount everest etc...


Posted by colibri on Sep-15-2006 00:39:


groundhog

you know well you aren't into helping anyonexcept
your littlego complex as a coward per excellence such
"recreational" activity it is about having a lack of power
and influence in others of your same species...

hunting destroys the magic of creation not having
appretiation for nature and ecology is sad justifying
your "sport" doesn't have any merits instead do yoga
dance or go running your sentitivity and heart will
improve greatly and hopefully soon realize thenergy
and priceless value "de la vida misma"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namor_the_Sub-Mariner


Posted by fr0st on Sep-15-2006 01:00:

What does a marvel superhero have to do with anything?


Posted by colibri on Sep-15-2006 01:16:

^

all humans be superheros helping others and thearth


;)


Posted by Groundhog Boy on Sep-15-2006 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by colibri

groundhog

you know well you aren't into helping anyonexcept
your littlego complex as a coward per excellence such
"recreational" activity it is about having a lack of power
and influence in others of your same species...

hunting destroys the magic of creation not having
appretiation for nature and ecology is sad justifying
your "sport" doesn't have any merits instead do yoga
dance or go running your sentitivity and heart will
improve greatly and hopefully soon realize thenergy
and priceless value "de la vida misma"

OK, I'm glad you got that out of your system. Like I said, I'm not really into arguing with your emotion-filled, logic-void poems. Your mentality is one that ecologists world-wide would argue with, but like I said, go ahead and have your opinions.


Posted by colibri on Sep-15-2006 01:33:

^

the bottom line is you are a wimp and hunting is
your fantasy scape to an empty illusion of power


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