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Originally posted by tiesto14 oh man...when will i ever get to meet one of you puss's in person.

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Originally posted by verndogs proves that the liberals pretty much dominate the media

wrong bro


When Moore wanted to release that film it took him months to find support in the theater industry.

Also only a handfull of cable channels would show his film.

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Originally posted by pyro264jb that ABC was forced to change that bull shit television drama about 9 11 they concocted.

Actually the Post and today's Limbaugh show reported that out of almost 5 hours the movie only one single minute was edited out of the final cut...80% of which referenced Monica Lewinsky.

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Originally posted by pyro264jb wrong bro When Moore wanted to release that film it took him months to find support in the theater industry. Also only a handfull of cable channels would show his film.

Because Moore is a paranoid intellect....smart guy...but seriously misguided...i store my copy of F9.11 next to my favorite Charlie Sheen movies.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Because Moore is a paranoid intellect....smart guy...but seriously misguided...i store my copy of F9.11 next to my favorite Charlie Sheen movies.

I would of trashed it Brooks. That movie doesnt deserve to be store, waste of space.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I would of trashed it Brooks. That movie doesnt deserve to be store, waste of space.

Nah i find it humorous.....sort of like when Charlie Sheen talks about structural engineering

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Nah i find it humorous.....sort of like when Charlie Sheen talks about structural engineering

Liberal pricks.

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Originally posted by Kapedan Liberal pricks.

LOL...ya basically.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Actually the Post and today's Limbaugh show reported that out of almost 5 hours the movie only one single minute was edited out of the final cut...80% of which referenced Monica Lewinsky.

Ok well if you read the post when they broke the story last thursday you would of seen that they caught the movie in a lie on two major counts


1. That Clinton was to busy with monika that he let bin laden slip through his hands ( In other words Clinton was afraid )

FACT - Clinton;s men gave the ok to our operatives to take out bin laden if the chance was there

2. Madalin Albright Tipped Bin laden that we were going to bomb them/

FACT - A high ranking genral ( baffoon ) told them that the bombs didnt come from india



The movie was directed by David Cunningham whos father is Loren unningham founder of the right-wing evangelical group Youth With A Mission (YWAM). A big right wing propagandist in the hollywood industry.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-b...ht_b_29015.html

a day like this they love using


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLG9TmRt0NM

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Originally posted by DeRangedMind There whole thing started in the 80's but anyways I found a video that was disturbing

THANK YOU

they glorfy this day and use it as a corner stone in any and all political attacks against other parties

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Originally posted by pyro264jb 1. That Clinton was to busy with monika that he let bin laden slip through his hands ( In other words Clinton was afraid ) FACT - Clinton;s men gave the ok to our operatives to take out bin laden if the chance was there

That is not a fact...if that was a fact Clinton would of taken him when Sudan offered him.

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Originally posted by pyro264jb 2. Madalin Albright Tipped Bin laden that we were going to bomb them/ FACT - A high ranking genral ( baffoon ) told them that the bombs didnt come from india

I dont know about that...but to be honest they had to inform Pakistan otherwise it could of triggered a nuke war with India.

Clinton should of taken him when Sudan offered him or killed every living creature in his camps when he was there.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 but decided to hand out meaningless indictments and get blow jobs

why is this even an issue? Why was it ever an issue? Every president loves a blowjobs.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 I dont know about that...but to be honest they had to inform Pakistan otherwise it could of triggered a nuke war with India. Clinton should of taken him when Sudan offered him or killed every living creature in his camps when he was there.

FACT -

Sudan offered to extradite Bin Laden to Saudi Arabia, an offer which was turned down by the Saudis because he was a political hot potato.

Any misconceptions of Hannity�s were corrected by Lanny Davis during a 6/22/04 broadcast of Hannity & Colmes. Davis told Hannity, �That�s a lie� (Clinton) never refused, never refused to take Osama bin Laden.�READ Also ignored by Hannity was Clinton�s 6/20/04 statement on 60 Minutes, �There was a story which is factually inaccurate that the Sudanese offered bin Laden to us. ... As far as I know, there is not a shred of evidence of that."





Also ready the 911 report page 3 that should clear up this misinformation youve been getting from fox 911 report page 3 Read the last line on the bottom of page 3 >>> �We have not found any reliable evidence to support the Sudanese claim.�

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Originally posted by pyro264jb FACT - Sudan offered to extradite Bin Laden to Saudi Arabia, an offer which was turned down by the Saudis because he was a political hot potato. Any misconceptions of Hannity�s were corrected by Lanny Davis during a 6/22/04 broadcast of Hannity & Colmes. Davis told Hannity, �That�s a lie� (Clinton) never refused, never refused to take Osama bin Laden.�READ Also ignored by Hannity was Clinton�s 6/20/04 statement on 60 Minutes, �There was a story which is factually inaccurate that the Sudanese offered bin Laden to us. ... As far as I know, there is not a shred of evidence of that." Also ready the 911 report page 3 that should clear up this misinformation youve been getting from fox 911 report page 3 �We have not found any reliable evidence to support the Sudanese claim.�

Taken from Rush Limbaugh's site

"It's sort of bad quality, Internet quality (lousy audio, actually). He's making a speech to a group of people somewhere. I forget where this was taking place. But this is what he said.

CLINTON: ...Mr. Bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with him again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan. "

Go to Rushs site to HEAR Clinton say he was offered him!!!!...he saiys right there he did not bring Bin laden HERE!!!

Also Saddam was after the leader of Al Queda to arrest him but of course we ruined everything when we went to war with Iraq

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Originally posted by DeRangedMind Also Saddam was after the leader of Al Queda to arrest him but of course we ruined everything when we went to war with Iraq

How does that make sense? Hussein was after Bin Laden (the leader of AL Queda) to get the leader of Al Queda (which is Bin Laden)?

LOL

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Originally posted by tiesto14 How does that make sense? Hussein was after Bin Laden (the leader of AL Queda) to get the leader of Al Queda (which is Bin Laden)? LOL

think there was someon e else blah its too late and I am tired will post about this more tomorrow sorrie

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Taken from Rush Limbaugh's site "It's sort of bad quality, Internet quality (lousy audio, actually). He's making a speech to a group of people somewhere. I forget where this was taking place. But this is what he said. CLINTON: ...Mr. Bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with him again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan. " Go to Rushs site to HEAR Clinton say he was offered him!!!!...he saiys right there he did not bring Bin laden HERE!!!

one word



BIASED!!!!!!!!!!!


To the maximums please man introduce some real media or documented proof. Not some second hand "It's sort of bad quality, I FORGET WHERE THIS WAS TAKEN PLACE� how convenient. So there would be no real document of what he said. My friend is a writer for Clinton and works in his Harlem offices. He states that anything that comes out of the mans mouth in a public area is recorded in case others want to misconstrue his words or make up lies about what the man said.

I present the 911 commission report and you give me Limbaugh?

I'll pass.....




Your claims are baseless. Republicans need to show some character and take blaim for there the wrong doings instead of passing the ball to others.

Rush Limbaugh hahaha

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Originally posted by pyro264jb one word BIASED!!!!!!!!!!! To the maximums please man introduce some real media or documented proof. Not some second hand "It's sort of bad quality, I FORGET WHERE THIS WAS TAKEN PLACE� how convenient. So there would be no real document of what he said. My friend is a writer for Clinton and works in his Harlem offices. He states that anything that comes out of the mans mouth in a public area is recorded in case others want to misconstrue his words or make up lies about what the man said. I present the 911 commission report and you give me Limbaugh? I'll pass..... Your claims are baseless. Republicans need to show some character and take blaim for there the wrong doings instead of passing the ball to others.

John the tape is legit...it was at a Univercity...listen to the tape and you hear Clinton saying the FULL quote that you used a partial of...you used part of his speach in responce to me...why are YOU picking and choosing part of Clintons speech from that night to fit your arguement and dismissing the rest?

The "hot potato" part of your quote that u threw at me was a direct quote from this speech....get real bro.

Clinton can clearly be heard...dont take things out of context and listen to the ENTIRE speech...

dont sift...facts are facts,

I am still laughing how you used part of the speech quote at me but when i present the FULL speech you says its false...thats handy.
LOL

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Originally posted by tiesto14 John the tape is legit...it was at a Univercity...listen to the tape and you hear Clinton saying the FULL quote that you used a partial of...you used part of his speach in responce to me...why are YOU picking and choosing part of Clintons speech from that night to fit your arguement and dismissing the rest? The "hot potato" part of your quote that u threw at me was a direct quote from this speech....get real bro. Clinton can clearly be heard...dont take things out of context and listen to the ENTIRE speech... dont sift...facts are facts, I am still laughing how you used part of the speech quote at me but when i present the FULL speech you says its false...thats handy. LOL

I did not listen to the speech I didnt have to. I quoted what Rush said, that he did not know where clinton spoke about the speech and also that it was bad quality. If you presented this evidence against mine in a court of law yours would be dismissed quickly.


Listen if you can tell me where and when the speech was made I can probably get the full official speech from my friends at his office. Then were talking.


Ps give me a link to the speech I dont want to sift through his site.

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Originally posted by pyro264jb I did not listen to the speech I didnt have to. I quoted what Rush said, that he did not know where clinton spoke about the speech and also that it was bad quality. If you presented this evidence against mine in a court of law yours would be dismissed very quickly. Listen if you can tell me where and when the speech was made I can probably get the full official speech from my friends at his office. Then were talking. Ps give me a link to the speech I dont want to sift through his site.

I understand...but you do realize that the "hot potato" part of your quote about the Saudis was what Clinton was saying in this speech...so i am saying how can you use only half of the speech and not the rest which clearly shows Clinton was offered him by Sudan and turned him down...from Clintons mouth!!!

Here is the link

CLICK HERE

listen with volume low otherwise u get distortion

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Originally posted by tiesto14 I understand...but you do realize that the "hot potato" part of your quote about the Saudis was what Clinton was saying in this speech...so i am saying how can you use only half of the speech and not the rest which clearly shows Clinton was offered him by Sudan and turned him down...from Clintons mouth!!! Here is the link CLICK HERE listen with volume low otherwise u get distortion

The place your getting this information lies through there teeth at no cost. This is a fact. I dont know who is speaking on this tape or when it was made.

Yes I know that I quoted something of saying Hot patato. This is where I got that information http://www.newshounds.us/2006/05/03...inton_again.php



Also who knows if this tape was altered. Look at what they did with Katie Corics body. Some staffer photochopped a pic of her to make her look 15 pounds lighter for fun. This is readily availible technology. If you can tell me When and Where this speech went down I will look into it with my people.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 StanVoid told me there were conspiracy theorists down at ground zero today (and now) yelling at families who lost loved ones, teling them to question their government for the truth and all that bla bla crap.

That is a waste of time - the events we see today were spawned by wheels that were set in motion long ago and I feel the situation has only been exacerbated in the last few years. Money spent fighting the 'war on terror' would've been better directed towards spending money within the USA - for starters maybe better intelligence or proper people heading up FEMA. The downing of the towers was a small victory for the terrorists - everything that followed after Afghanistan was their big victory - the 'fear' and uncertainty that were spread like a cancer through media outlets is still perpetrated today - the fact ultimately hit home that the "nothing can harm us here" attitude was no longer a reality. As US currency loses it value globally combined with the debt as a % of GDP once again approaching record levels, things are not looking too healthy in the long term - that's besides all the increasing amount of foreign investment/ownership - ports, roads and bridges or the memorable failed bid by a state-owned Chinese oil company to grab a hold of Chevron. Of course, this is all pointless, since it's more newsworthy for CNN to talk about Mel Gibson for 3 days or put together news segments suggesting potential places for terrorist attacks - you know - Power generating plants, subways,buses, railroad lines, cruise ships, ferrys, airports, shopping centres (Forward to 1:53 into the clip to see for yourself)

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Originally posted by SebG It really doesnt matter now if Osama Bin Laden is caught now or not. What matters is destroying the little cells that keep poping up. Destroying everything that has to do with jihad, terrorists and other fucked up things.

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Originally posted by koky69 Once their master is gone , Trust me it will slow down . It will unfortunately never be gone completely . But it would be slowed down if their main leader is destroyed.

The targetting of leaders only serves to further their terrorist reach - as those that have fallen become martyrs to their cause. You can't view killing them all off one by one as a solution since the true extremists do not see death as something to avoid, but rather, as a valiant way to go out serving their twisted beliefs. When you fight an ideology with another you can never win unless everyone succumbs to yours -- and we see how well that has worked with communism (sarcasm). A recent example is what happened in Lebanon -- did Israel gain any ground by bombing Lebanon or did they just make things worse by drumming up support for Hezbollah by those that were once indifferent?

It is in human nature to side with that which you are familiar - the conspiracy theorists believe their side of the story, others believe the official/mainstream media story - a divide exists that is not easily crossed with either side refusing to see any merit in the other. In much the same way, the stigma some Americans attach to all those that appear Muslim and/or of Middle Eastern descent can largely be blamed on the media and the scare tactics in the weeks/months following 9/11.

For many the USA was increasingly gaining ground in the past decades as a leader in freedom, human rights, etc. amongst its citizens and in foreign policy efforts. However, things like the Patriot Act and imprisoning people without charging them with anything seems like fiction - "it couldn't happen here." Now when everyday citizens question the government, raise questions regarding 9/11 or debate the purpose of the Iraq War they're seen as lacking patriotism or not supporting the troops.

R.I.P. to all the people who died 5 years ago and to those that have died since then abroad - as well as to the others who lost some of the freedoms they once enjoyed solely to protect them from an event that may never happen.

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