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i really, really, really like how they have placed a list of active services into task manager... and also listed them along with the PID of the controlling lsass.exe or svchost.exe process. watch what happens when shitty malware tries to pretend it's a legit svchost.exe and everything connecting on the net can be tracked from a netstat -ano to the PID.

Windows Vista RC1 64 is running on my machine right now, and SURPRISINGLY well.

I was convinced running the 64 bit version would be enough to make me want to just take a peek, and then forget about it, but my machine was built for it and the only driver I have had to find was for my onboard audio card. HP service gave me beta drivers and they work.

Now, if only M-Audio would support my delta audiophile 2496, I would be a happy camper.

Also, Nero wont work, so I'm looking for a burning software if anyone knows of something I can try.

If I have a centrino duo processor, should I run the 64 or 32 bit? my mind says 32 to be safe, but if 64 runs better on it (since the centrino duo is 64 bit, right?) I should probably run that. Thanks

Before you do anything, make sure ALL your hardware, has 64 bit drivers. Collect them all, by either searching for them on the net, or by contacting your hardware manufacturers, and getting them that way.

Then once vista is running, go to control panel/ add hardware, then point the wizard to the folder with your new 64 bit drivers.

I had to search for my sound card driver, M-audio has a beta driver for 64 bit, but its still not working. Vista seemed to pick up my video card fine.

My webcam may not work for a while, and my drivers for my MIDI controller arent working either, but I think M-audio has them for 63 bit, havent searched yet. Still trying to tweek the little bugs out of this setup.

Over all, Im still impressed 64 bit conversion is going THIS smoothly. I was expecting chaos.

also, I installed firefox, made it the default browser, found out shockwave does not work in firefox, and uninstalled it. even though i set IE as my default browser, it keeps trying to find firefox whenever I click on an link from AIM or w/e. Whats the deal?

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Originally posted by bobonoho also, I installed firefox, made it the default browser, found out shockwave does not work in firefox, and uninstalled it. even though i set IE as my default browser, it keeps trying to find firefox whenever I click on an link from AIM or w/e. Whats the deal?

Welcome to the world of Beta

Few screen shots of RC1 64 bit running some what well on my machine. Still cant get the beta ATI drivers to work, but despite what Vertigo said, my video adaptor has absolutely NO issues with the windows areo, even with the windows driver which isnt the right one.

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Originally posted by devnull

That review there is the first i've read about Vista, but it is proving to be the complete disaster that i expected.

I've even rolled back from XP to Win 2k Pro because im sick of all the nonsense that comes with XP. 2k is fast, clean, and stable.

The memory requirement is pure comedy. im using 325mb currently with windows 2000, winamp, firefox, amsn, diskeeper, symantec antivirus, nvidia drivers and utorrent.

I think ive decided that XP will be the last windows i use at home. I dont intend on using this pile of garbage, or buying a new PC for the priviledge of running it either.

I hope MS does the decent thing and continues it's 2k support, as it's by far the best OS they've made.

Hopfully by next year i'll have learned enough on Linux to switch to Suse for 90% of my use and use 2k for the other 10%.

Goodbye Windows.

I will not even make the switch to Vista, I read a lot of stuff about it requiring that you have a video card and a monitor that supports HDCP. Its a very strict copy protection scheme thats hardware based, If the hardware isnt HDCP compliant, any HD video you download and try to watch will get downgraded to a lower quality.

Coup, any security problems with 2k? I mean, xp has been exploited by many worms and such, are there many exploits for 2k? Does Microsoft still provide regular updates for 2k?

Just a bit out of the loop and curious. I might get a job as some sort of computer technician next week, i'm supposed to know all this stuff.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 Coup, any security problems with 2k? I mean, xp has been exploited by many worms and such, are there many exploits for 2k? Does Microsoft still provide regular updates for 2k?

Compared to XP, 2k is forte knox. When MS released 2k it had flaws, but as they released a 2k server for business, they HAD to get it right to avoid corporations going nuts.

The end results is the most stable and secure OS windows have released. I used it back when it was the latest one out and it crashed and went wrong about twice a year.

If you install it from a clean install, you'll have about 350+ mb in updates, including service pack 4, service pack 4 roll up update, and all the trillions of security and software updates after - all available from the MS site.

MS do still release updates for 2k which is nice. They'll stop supporting it eventually, hopfully not for a long time tho. Win98 lasted 8 years of support, hopfully 2k will too.

That does look nice, thanks for the info. Are there any applications not compatible with it, or can you run absolutely everything?

these are the only problems i can think of:

compatability with old games. modern games all have support for win 2k but as it was designed as a business OS, support for games was not included. MS did release a compatability update which [theoretically] provided support for older games but i still didnt get many to work on 2k. That update is now included into the service packs.

XP does have nicer colour support. icons and things have better colour rendition in XP than 2k, but it's nothing u can't live with.

XP has UPnP, and 2k does't. UPnP is a system which basically lets things like MSN read your internet settings automatically and configure the program to work, sounds a big feature, but NONE of the connection related problems i had on XP are present now on 2k. I used to have issues sending and receiving files on mIRC and on MSN (yes, my router was all configured with correct port forwarding), and i had some funky problems with my contacts list on aMSN (i use aMSN, not microsoft MSN).

Since moving to 2k, as my router was already config'd with the correct ports, ALL files in, out, and my contacts list in aMSN work 100%. so much for UPnP.

All in all, if u can live with slightly less colour vividness, make the switch. I can't think of anything other than colour that XP beats 2k in.

Maybe someone can help with this, as I'm still experiencing this problem. Whenever I try to install vista, it just stops working towards the end. The drive formats fine, everything installs, restarts, hits another install step, then restarts to finalize the install. But whenever it does this, sometime after the post, the video output shuts off, and my monitor goes into standby, with the computer still running.

I know vista has problems with video drivers for ATI cards, but I was able to get Beta 2 running just fine on the second install of that. None of my hardware has changed, I'm installing it on the same partition, formatted because I didn't leave enough space to do an upgrade.

Any ideas what might be going on that RC1 isn't working where Beta 2 did?

I downloaded this from microsoft. Did the upgrade advisor and all. My PC is about 2 months old, and has the vista compatible sticker on it. The only problem is that it hangs on the final stage of the install. I've tried it twice, with no luck. Any suggestions?

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