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Black coffee, 2 diet sugars... 3 sometimes 4 a day keeps me alive.

However it isn't as strong as drinking an espresso without no sugar, that's how they take it in Italy... totally insane.

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Originally posted by Spective Whatever coffee you fancy, always make sure you are using the proper preparation methods. All too often, I come across people who think good beans = good coffee. Think about your brewing equipment. I personally think that French Presses are the best way to drink coffee because there isn't a paper filter that will soak up a lot of the essential oils that hold the suttleties of coffee. Then theres water. Make sure you are using good clean filtered water (preferably bottled.) Then there's proportion. It is recommended that for every 3 oz of coffee you want brewed, you add 1 tbsp of ground coffee. Then there's grind itself. If you are going to use a French Press, always use the coarsest grind on your grinder. If you brew with an espresso machine, get it as fine as you can. Flat bottom paper filter machines should be at a medium grind. After you ensure all of this, then you can start thinking about what coffee beans you like. I am digging a few things from Starbucks right now. I love their Anniversary Blend which is extra bold with hints of spice. My all time Starbucks favorite is their Caffe Verona which has dark chocolate notes which makes it pair well with chocolate desserts.

lol verona's like their only blend i can't stand

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Originally posted by luisjb82 Black coffee, 2 diet sugars... 3 sometimes 4 a day keeps me alive. However it isn't as strong as drinking an espresso without no sugar, that's how they take it in Italy... totally insane.

....anyone adding sugar to espresso either has some god damn awful espresso or should be shot

Agree that French Press is hands down best method... Just bought a new one a few days back (Needed a bigger one)

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Originally posted by DJ RJT Those are all fine and well, but they aren't really good examples of enjoying "coffee." They're Americanized drinks that are uber sugary and really aren't all that "coffee-ish." Not sayin' they're bad, but there is a world of difference between those and what I'm talking about...

Cafe Latte isn't American it's Italian. Frappe is Greek. Those are ok for what they are. Just an easy drinking coffee beverage in the evening or on the beach in summer.

Ofcourse the esspresso shot is THE way to judge whether a place makes good coffee or not.

American coffee bastardisation takes it to the next level with shit like: orange-caramel-soya-mocha-frappe-cino in a jumbo cup, would you like fries with that?... absolutely disgusting, both from a taste perspective and a cultural perspective. If anyone mentions Starbucks or GloriaJeans, they have no idea about good coffee.

Now that that's out of the way... I usually order a machiato or an esspresso.

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Originally posted by mezzir ....anyone adding sugar to espresso either has some god damn awful espresso or should be shot

I still think espresso is the strongest out there... I had one like a year ago, I honestly think it ripped a hole in my stomach

Can't stand the stuff. Too harsh

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Originally posted by luisjb82 I still think espresso is the strongest out there... I had one like a year ago, I honestly think it ripped a hole in my stomach

lol....one....guy i used to work with got a stomach ulcer... at one point in his life he was havint like 15 or 16 shots a day
/worked at starbucks

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Originally posted by astroboy Cafe Latte isn't American it's Italian. Frappe is Greek. Those are ok for what they are. Just an easy drinking coffee beverage in the evening or on the beach in summer. Ofcourse the esspresso shot is THE way to judge whether a place makes good coffee or not. American coffee bastardisation takes it to the next level with shit like: orange-caramel-soya-mocha-frappe-cino in a jumbo cup, would you like fries with that?... absolutely disgusting, both from a taste perspective and a cultural perspective. If anyone mentions Starbucks or GloriaJeans, they have no idea about good coffee. Now that that's out of the way... I usually order a machiato or an esspresso.

A latte in America isn't even close to a latte you'd get in Italy.

Same with Frappe's.

My meaning wasn't that they were originally American bastardizations of coffee, but merely that in popular culture they have become horribly Americanized. Sad but true.

Also, Turkish coffee FTW!

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Originally posted by mezzir lol....one....guy i used to work with got a stomach ulcer... at one point in his life he was havint like 15 or 16 shots a day /worked at starbucks

lolz damn

I'm actually cutting it down to 2 and in extreme cases when I need to stay at the office till late night to 3 black coffees a day... and true that, I stay away from anything close to espresso, it's just crazy

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Originally posted by Spective Whatever coffee you fancy, always make sure you are using the proper preparation methods. All too often, I come across people who think good beans = good coffee. Think about your brewing equipment. I personally think that French Presses are the best way to drink coffee because there isn't a paper filter that will soak up a lot of the essential oils that hold the suttleties of coffee.

OK I agree with you that god beans does not equal good coffee. But what's the deal with comparing a plunger (french press) with a filter machine... Filtered coffee shouldn't be seen anywhere except 1950s style diners in backwater towns.

I would rank coffee preparation methods as follows (best to worst):

Esspresso machine
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Manual (Stove-top) esspresso pot
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Plunger (/french press/cafetiere)
Vacuum pot (just cos it's cool to watch)
Neapolitan
Al fresco (aka grounds in a saucepan)
Ibrik/briki (Greek/Turkish coffee)
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Filter machine coffee
Instant coffee

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Originally posted by DJ RJT A latte in America isn't even close to a latte you'd get in Italy. Same with Frappe's. My meaning wasn't that they were originally American bastardizations of coffee, but merely that in popular culture they have become horribly Americanized. Sad but true.

yeah ok I get what ur sayin. The thing that pisses me off most is that sturbucks et al are making their way down here now. Melbourne has had good coffee and a great Eurpoean-style cafe-culture for a long time because of all the Italian immigrants. It has always been possible to get a decent latte anywhere central for decades around here. There is no reason for Starbucks to be successful here, yet they survive and grow somehow.

anyone ever have a nice big cup of coffee on an empty stomach with a 2 or 3 caps of ephedrine? talk about legal speed, if you want to get up and get excited about your day this is the best way to do it.

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