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Posted by StanVoid on Sep-26-2006 14:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5

Hooligan - Hear You Now (Grand Chillas Mix) (more prog than trance, but very emotional)


hellllll yesssssss


Posted by Cloud on Sep-26-2006 14:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
actually i think trance is one of the least emotional genres... that's why it's so terrible. it tries too hard to be emotional, but it just comes off as stupid...


I fully agree but i have to add "nowdays" to that imo.


Posted by Bagarse on Sep-26-2006 15:06:

well trance music certainly helps me enforce my motions....


Posted by Arbalest on Sep-26-2006 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No it's not.


Oh sry i arrived late @ this thread so I make it short:


DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE



Posted by JasonThomas on Sep-26-2006 17:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
You have listened to a pitifully minute amount of electronic music in your lifetime.


and your assuming that because?...

What I said was pretty obvious. Whether or not you personally think trance music is emotional is irrelevant. It's the genre of EDM that is more concerned with tugging on the ol' heart strings. Sure there are house tracks that are emotional. Ok maybe a tech track or two can have an emotional impact. But those other genres just arent centered around it like trance is.

Of course everything that I'm saying can't really be proven. It's all very subjective. But that wasn't even the most controversial portion of my post. The real point I was trying to make was that EDM in general has a unique effect on the listener because it is more concerned with effecting the listener in a solitary way. It is not as much concerned with expressing a point of view, which other forms of music seems to do. It's more about playing with the aural playground in a way that causes a certain effect on the listener.

It's of course a generalization but I think it holds true for the majority of EDM. EDM is very unique in this way and it's one of the reasons I love it so.


Posted by Salegon on Sep-26-2006 17:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbalest
Oh sry i arrived late @ this thread so I make it short:


DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE




Warum hast du denn den Onkel Ishkur nicht lieb?


Posted by JasonThomas on Sep-26-2006 18:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Cloud
I fully agree but i have to add "nowdays" to that imo.


...this is also something that bothers me a bit while reading the forums.


Trance music has not changed since about 1997 or 98. I've listened to it heavily since that period and I think I can objectively say that trance has not dulled/gotten less emotional/become lower quality etc. The basic structure and effect of trance has remained the same. It's you that have changed. It's pretty simple. You just have moved on from getting the same effects that you once had from trance. There's nothing shameful about it. I know I'm assuming a lot about you personally, but I'm actually just speaking about the general attitude on the forums about how trance has "gone downhill", "it has died", "someone killed trance" and so on and so forth.

I cannot speak for before that period because I did not listen to it at all and it has not effected me really in any way. I think though that period, or mabey a bit before, is when trance became the genre it is today. The tracks today are all influence by tracks of that period and beyond. From what I've gathered on the forums and from what I've listened to, trance in the early 90s and earlier was something entirely different than what it is today and it was mostly in state of gestation. So if your talking about trance from that period you are justified in your claims about how trance has changed.


Posted by gizzymcg on Sep-26-2006 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
and your assuming that because?...

What I said was pretty obvious. Whether or not you personally think trance music is emotional is irrelevant. It's the genre of EDM that is more concerned with tugging on the ol' heart strings. Sure there are house tracks that are emotional. Ok maybe a tech track or two can have an emotional impact. But those other genres just arent centered around it like trance is.

Of course everything that I'm saying can't really be proven. It's all very subjective. But that wasn't even the most controversial portion of my post. The real point I was trying to make was that EDM in general has a unique effect on the listener because it is more concerned with effecting the listener in a solitary way. It is not as much concerned with expressing a point of view, which other forms of music seems to do. It's more about playing with the aural playground in a way that causes a certain effect on the listener.

It's of course a generalization but I think it holds true for the majority of EDM. EDM is very unique in this way and it's one of the reasons I love it so.


Honestly mate the likes of Ishkur arnt worth rising to on this board. Enjoy the music you enjoy and dont feel you need to justify yourself to anyone let alone a bitter twisted "dance music elitest" like Ishkur


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-26-2006 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
and your assuming that because?...

What I said was pretty obvious. Whether or not you personally think trance music is emotional is irrelevant. It's the genre of EDM that is more concerned with tugging on the ol' heart strings.


i think what he meant was that's a pretty narrow view of EDM genres. personally i think downtempo and other similar genres are a lot more emotional than trance. i think he just meant that EDM consists of a lot more than trance, house and techno...

besides all music is emotional...


Posted by DJ Intrigue on Sep-26-2006 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
besides all music is emotional...


Bingo... and that's pretty much all that needs to be said here.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-26-2006 22:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
Bingo... and that's pretty much all that needs to be said here.



Which I already said earlier, so why are we still talking?


Posted by Zombie0915 on Sep-27-2006 00:25:

cuz we like to see ourselves talk, duh

that and there is a dick measuring contest going on as usual people feel the need to have the last word

The usual reasons threads extend pretty much every time somebody brings up something subjective or every time somebody tries to make one of these silly generalizations.

Strangely enough I got into trance because it made me feel "pumped up" it seemed the most energetic and exciting sound to me at the time that I had found it, perhaps that is why I find myself enjoying it less these days, because the prog influence is really mellowing things out. I want to flail like a wild idiot, If I could stand the obnoxious roaring I'd get into DnB. But what stuck out with trance to me, was how it seemed really energetic, yet peaceful and calm at other times, it would just drone for a while, then explode into wildness, then relax again. Yeah I know other genres do it too, but trance seemed to have a wider range than the others, though it seems the ancient trance wasn't like that, but rather it was consistently at a single unchanging level. I guess I like that bipolar wildness, that and the repeating high pitched synthies that you could fixate on.

Im not sure if that is emotional, but I feel as if alot of those tracks have sentimental value to me, and I tend to hear different tunes in my head depending on my mood.

ymmv


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-27-2006 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Which I already said earlier, so why are we still talking?

I said it first though. Nyah nyah.


Posted by DJ Intrigue on Sep-27-2006 00:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Which I already said earlier, so why are we still talking?


Considering that was my only post in here, what the hell are you on about? If anyone is still talking, it's Spirit5 and djmetatron. I was simply re-iterating the point because there are still those in this thread who don't quite seem to grasp it yet.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-27-2006 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I said it first though. Nyah nyah.



*Runs away crying*


Posted by Spirit5 on Sep-27-2006 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
Considering that was my only post in here, what the hell are you on about? If anyone is still talking, it's Spirit5 and djmetatron. I was simply re-iterating the point because there are still those in this thread who don't quite seem to grasp it yet.


Un no I'm not, I dropped this thread after DJMegatron's post that I agreed with because he basically said what I was meaning to say but a lot more concise...I have trouble getting to my points I concede. That was yesterday, this is the only post in this thread from me today and it's not about the topic at hand, so I am not in the dicussion aymore.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-27-2006 00:43:

You lot can chill out, I meant it as a joke


Posted by DJ Intrigue on Sep-27-2006 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
You lot can chill out, I meant it as a joke


Well it's hard to tell at times, I suppose.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-27-2006 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
Well it's hard to tell at times, I suppose.



I gotta use more smileys I guess.


Posted by Ishkur on Sep-27-2006 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
and your assuming that because?...


Well, for one thing, no one calls EDM "EDM" except trance crackers.


Posted by Clovis on Sep-27-2006 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Well, for one thing, no one calls EDM "EDM" except trance crackers.


I'm not a trance cracker.


Posted by Sushipunk on Sep-27-2006 04:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Well, for one thing, no one calls EDM "EDM" except trance crackers.



Posted by risoriso on Sep-27-2006 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
I'm not a trance cracker.


Favorite DJ or Producer
Sasha, Holden, Lawler, Digweed, Ewan Pearson


Posted by Clovis on Sep-27-2006 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by risoriso
Favorite DJ or Producer
Sasha, Holden, Lawler, Digweed, Ewan Pearson


Alot of trance in there.


Posted by Zombie0915 on Sep-27-2006 06:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Well, for one thing, no one calls EDM "EDM" except trance crackers.


first time I ever heard the acronym was at a DnB event, i dont really notice that pattern at all, trance crackers are nearly extinct in this state and I hear ppl say "EDM" all the damn time.


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