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Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Dec-13-2006 13:24:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VktQBj1Dm4

British SAS in action. American special forces fucked up at Mazar-e-Sharif fort where 1000's of Taliban prisoners ran amok after killing a CIA interrogator and raided the prisons armoury a lot of Taliban were put 6ft under that day.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Dec-13-2006 14:38:

the Canadian JTF2 are one of the worlds best.... longest range confirmed kill in afganistan was a JTF2 sniper..... they are based out of CFB petawawa and the JTF2 "secret" base which happens to be right beside the ottawa international airport lol.....


Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-13-2006 14:46:

Re: Re: A thread on special forces

quote:
Originally posted by star-traveller
You are idiot. Spetznas is not the best elite squad in Russia.

Tell us who are than? You are a Russian so you should know, rather than just insulting. Tell him which are best in Russia??


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-14-2006 11:43:

98-01 Former Member of my Marine Logistics Squadron's
Anti-Terrorism Force Protection Team (ATFP), used to
be called Terrorist Neutralization Team (TNT).
New rule at the time was Marine Infantry would not
be in the rear providing us with security anymore.
it was up to us to provide it.

==================================================

Rangers elite? they're light infantry... Just cause they're
in SOC doesn't mean they are special operations. They're infantry
who jump out of planes with light weapons. Not that hard to get
jump wings...

Delta, British SAS, Aus SAS, Spetnaz, Israeli's Spec Ops,
SEALs, And U.S. Marine Force Recon (who train SEALs) are
some of the best in the world.

Hard to say who is better, but they're all tough hard as
nails hombres.

Spetnaz surround a building with terrorists who had hostages,
they took a couple of them quietly then dropped their heads
into the place. The terrorists surrendered ASAP.

Both SASs and American Spec Ops were on the ground in Iraq
and Afganistan early on, kudos to them.

Israelis are no joke, they'll hide in the sand of the desert
forever, heat is killer for us. Jungle warfare, well every year
there was a competition in central America between the various
spec ops and the U.S. came too but they never won.

Just so many different combat conditions, terrain, and such that
it's impossible to say who better at what. They all deserve respect.

Just not crazy about rangers called special forces. Marine Infantry
are Heavy Infantry (carry tons of heavy weaponary into a fight) and
are considered 'shock troops'. That's why we're first in the fight &
why we defend our embassies and WMDs. Also have had dedicated
anti-terrorist battalions for over a decade like FAST, Fleet
Anti-Terrorist Security Team, and I believe the 4th Brigade (AT).
We all have MOUT, Military Operations in Urban Terrain, training
as well way before the Army.

Well whatever, we're all brothers and even enemies respect each
other after awhile. A week ago veterans from Pearl Harbor had
an emotional reunion with former Japaneese Pilots who were part
of the attack. Couldn't even think what that must be like...


Posted by star-traveller on Dec-14-2006 18:52:

Re: Re: Re: A thread on special forces

quote:
Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
Tell us who are than? You are a Russian so you should know, rather than just insulting. Tell him which are best in Russia??


Team Alpha. The best elite squad in Russia.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-15-2006 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
the Canadian JTF2 are one of the worlds best.... longest range confirmed kill in afganistan was a JTF2 sniper..... they are based out of CFB petawawa and the JTF2 "secret" base which happens to be right beside the ottawa international airport lol.....


I thought they were based out of Edmonton??

I know my personal trainer is ex-military, and took his sniper training there...
Maybe that's where they start and then go to Petawawa/Ottawa?

I'll have to ask him...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-15-2006 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC


great post


Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-15-2006 18:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC

Well what you said was nice. But I hate to tell you. We here, in Russia and the rest of the world, know that American's no matter what forces they join. Be it Seals or Marines. That doesn't stop them from being a bunch of pussies in battle. I watched the other day on TV a bunch of American soldiers crying just because of gunfire and artillery going off around them. Bunch of pussies. But yeah I give props to the SAS always hard and always strong.


Posted by star-traveller on Dec-15-2006 20:13:

Russian marines are not pussies, but they are a bunch of drunks.
They are ready to drink anything that contains alcohol of a certain level.

ps.
I hate to tell you that too.


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-15-2006 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
Well what you said was nice. But I hate to tell you. We here, in Russia and the rest of the world, know that American's no matter what forces they join. Be it Seals or Marines. That doesn't stop them from being a bunch of pussies in battle. I watched the other day on TV a bunch of American soldiers crying just because of gunfire and artillery going off around them. Bunch of pussies. But yeah I give props to the SAS always hard and always strong.


Soldiers... Prob 18yr old nvr been in combat... And you
watched it on TV? I guess you believe everything on TV
and youtube. Ever serve in the military? Ever serve with
Americans? There are plenty that are hard mofos that will
fuck you up and on par with whatever you have.

If the cold war turned into a shooting war without nukes
we all know that russia wouldn't have been able to sustain
a war and would have collapsed. Your current military can
barely eat 3 meals aday lol. USA > Russia and would beat
you in a war even if you had China to back you up.

So yeah, you're saying some soldiers on some 1 min segment
on tv are pussies, yet you must know zip about real life
spec ops personnel even russians to make an ignorant statement
like that. Don't let pride in your country make you an asshole.

EDIT: Artillery is nothing to sneeze at... Unless you've
been under a barrage don't judge others...


Posted by Shakka on Dec-15-2006 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC
Soldiers... Prob 18yr old nvr been in combat... And you
watched it on TV? I guess you believe everything on TV
and youtube. Ever serve in the military? Ever serve with
Americans? There are plenty that are hard mofos that will
fuck you up and on par with whatever you have.

If the cold war turned into a shooting war without nukes
we all know that russia wouldn't have been able to sustain
a war and would have collapsed. Your current military can
barely eat 3 meals aday lol. USA > Russia and would beat
you in a war even if you had China to back you up.

So yeah, you're saying some soldiers on some 1 min segment
on tv are pussies, yet you must know zip about real life
spec ops personnel even russians to make an ignorant statement
like that. Don't let pride in your country make you an asshole.


Woohoo! We finally got a real one! Semper Fi!


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-15-2006 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Woohoo! We finally got a real one! Semper Fi!


Yes Sir, Semper Fidelis.


Posted by star-traveller on Dec-15-2006 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC
Soldiers... Prob 18yr old nvr been in combat... And you
watched it on TV? I guess you believe everything on TV
and youtube. Ever serve in the military? Ever serve with
Americans? There are plenty that are hard mofos that will
fuck you up and on par with whatever you have.

If the cold war turned into a shooting war without nukes
we all know that russia wouldn't have been able to sustain
a war and would have collapsed. Your current military can
barely eat 3 meals aday lol. USA > Russia and would beat
you in a war even if you had China to back you up.

So yeah, you're saying some soldiers on some 1 min segment
on tv are pussies, yet you must know zip about real life
spec ops personnel even russians to make an ignorant statement
like that. Don't let pride in your country make you an asshole.

EDIT: Artillery is nothing to sneeze at... Unless you've
been under a barrage don't judge others...


Just Another Idiot.


Posted by Gertrude on Dec-15-2006 23:24:

I'm just curious to know is anyone in the military.


Posted by star-traveller on Dec-15-2006 23:42:

I was passing a short term military service.


Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Dec-15-2006 23:47:

quote:
Originally posted by star-traveller
I was passing a short term military service.

I was in the military and served in Afghanistan. I do have friends who are in SF. I never joined because I wanted to get a college education and I did.


Posted by jrbuddha on Dec-16-2006 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by BiG-_BoSS
I was in the military and served in Afghanistan. I do have friends who are in SF. I never joined because I was too big of a pussy.


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-16-2006 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Gertrude
I'm just curious to know is anyone in the military.


*points to avatar*


Posted by Q5echo on Dec-16-2006 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by star-traveller
Just Another Idiot.


Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, star-traveller? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for DevildogUSMC, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Devildog's poop, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you dont talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!


Posted by Fir3start3r on Dec-16-2006 06:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, star-traveller? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for DevildogUSMC, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Devildog's poop, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you dont talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!


+1!

In short star-traveller, stop being a hypocrite and walk the talk; any chump can talk the talk.


Posted by Alex on Dec-16-2006 07:40:

JTF2


Posted by star-traveller on Dec-16-2006 09:10:

I don't even want bothering me to answer to that absolute bullshit he wrote.


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-16-2006 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, star-traveller? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for DevildogUSMC, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Devildog's poop, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you dont talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!


Nicely put man.


Posted by Q5echo on Dec-16-2006 13:30:

thanks. i wrote it myself.

9yrs 9mos 28days U.S. Navy. DON'T LAUGH


Posted by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-16-2006 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
thanks. i wrote it myself.

9yrs 9mos 28days U.S. Navy. DON'T LAUGH


We're all shipmates, Squid just kidding


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