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Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 15:53:

oh ffs, declawing is not as evil as people make it out to be. my last cat got fully declawed when he was a kitten and he's still as happy and playful as ever.

the whole reason it's an "American" thing is because the majority of cats in European countries are outside cats, so it would be inhumane to declaw a cat that spends time outdoors. they'd need their claws to defend themselves and climb around. keeping indoor pets is an American thing. i don't have a choice in that matter since i live in an apartment and i'm not just gonna let kitty run outside.

trust me guys, i've done a lot of research and read articles discussing both sides of the matter. there are plenty of people who are extremely against it and there are plenty of people who think it's just fine. there seems to be no "middle ground" on the subject.

i probably wouldn't do it if i lived in a house or if the cat was going to be an indoor/outdoor cat... BUT because i live in a 1-bedroom apartment i don't really have much choice in the matter. i want to be able to play with my kitty and let him sleep next to my head without getting scratched up. i've been trying to teach him with the spray bottle but he doesn't seem to care. he's young enough that he'll recover just fine, and i've made sure to choose a good vet that uses laser surgery instead of the old-school slicing method.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-27-2006 15:59:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
i probably wouldn't do it if i lived in a house or if the cat was going to be an indoor/outdoor cat... BUT because i live in a 1-bedroom apartment i don't really have much choice in the matter. i want to be able to play with my kitty and let him sleep next to my head without getting scratched up. i've been trying to teach him with the spray bottle but he doesn't seem to care. he's young enough that he'll recover just fine, and i've made sure to choose a good vet that uses laser surgery instead of the old-school slicing method.



Fair enough...as long as you're 100% positive!


The only reason I said anything is because other people I know that have done it, regret it. Just looking out for kitty AND you.


Posted by Ozoned12 on Oct-27-2006 16:00:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
oh ffs, declawing is not as evil as people make it out to be. my last cat got fully declawed when he was a kitten and he's still as happy and playful as ever.

the whole reason it's an "American" thing is because the majority of cats in European countries are outside cats, so it would be inhumane to declaw a cat that spends time outdoors. they'd need their claws to defend themselves and climb around. keeping indoor pets is an American thing. i don't have a choice in that matter since i live in an apartment and i'm not just gonna let kitty run outside.

trust me guys, i've done a lot of research and read articles discussing both sides of the matter. there are plenty of people who are extremely against it and there are plenty of people who think it's just fine. there seems to be no "middle ground" on the subject.

i probably wouldn't do it if i lived in a house or if the cat was going to be an indoor/outdoor cat... BUT because i live in a 1-bedroom apartment i don't really have much choice in the matter. i want to be able to play with my kitty and let him sleep next to my head without getting scratched up. i've been trying to teach him with the spray bottle but he doesn't seem to care. he's young enough that he'll recover just fine, and i've made sure to choose a good vet that uses laser surgery instead of the old-school slicing method.


I wouldn't want a cat sleeping near my face with claws (atleast when there young for sure) because they will think your eye is a play toy. I like being able to see lol. I have also woke up with a cat on my face they like to sit on warm things. I had a bigger hair ball in my mouth than the cat did


Posted by asfdz on Oct-27-2006 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DjConfessions
THATS A ANICE LIOOKING PUSSY. CNAN I EA T IT?


you're chinese?


Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Fair enough...as long as you're 100% positive!


The only reason I said anything is because other people I know that have done it, regret it. Just looking out for kitty AND you.

yeah, believe me... i'm scared for the lil bugger (i'm a paranoid and overprotective mommy - god help me if i ever have REAL kids, lol), but i think he'll be okay, and i'm gonna take extra good care of him after the surgery! depending on what the vet tells me about the after-surgery care, i'm considering taking the next day off work just so i can be around to love him and make sure he's recovering ok.


Posted by biznology on Oct-27-2006 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
oh ffs, declawing is not as evil as people make it out to be. my last cat got fully declawed when he was a kitten and he's still as happy and playful as ever.

the whole reason it's an "American" thing is because the majority of cats in European countries are outside cats, so it would be inhumane to declaw a cat that spends time outdoors. they'd need their claws to defend themselves and climb around. keeping indoor pets is an American thing. i don't have a choice in that matter since i live in an apartment and i'm not just gonna let kitty run outside.

trust me guys, i've done a lot of research and read articles discussing both sides of the matter. there are plenty of people who are extremely against it and there are plenty of people who think it's just fine. there seems to be no "middle ground" on the subject.

i probably wouldn't do it if i lived in a house or if the cat was going to be an indoor/outdoor cat... BUT because i live in a 1-bedroom apartment i don't really have much choice in the matter. i want to be able to play with my kitty and let him sleep next to my head without getting scratched up. i've been trying to teach him with the spray bottle but he doesn't seem to care. he's young enough that he'll recover just fine, and i've made sure to choose a good vet that uses laser surgery instead of the old-school slicing method.


yeah oscar(above left) lives in a 1 bedroom apt and were completely accepting of not declawing. its pretty selfish of you, the cat *will* get older and mellow out. you just seek the easy solution, after you weren't sure you wanted the kitten to begin with. 'good vets' would help you otherwise|

btw, catching the cat when it wakes up with some usual toenail clippers and clipping below the vein works wonders, if you practice it regularly. nails are used less and the cat trusts more.


Posted by AndreaCKY772 on Oct-27-2006 16:41:

i like the lighting and your laptop.


Posted by biznology on Oct-27-2006 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
yeah oscar(above left) lives in a 1 bedroom apt and were completely accepting of not declawing. its pretty selfish of you, the cat *will* get older and mellow out. you just seek the easy solution, after you weren't sure you wanted the kitten to begin with. 'good vets' would help you otherwise|

btw, catching the cat when it wakes up with some usual toenail clippers and clipping below the vein works wonders, if you practice it regularly. nails are used less and the cat trusts more.



myra, seriously, dont do it.

i know the kitten is a handful - but they calm down. dont declaw. i dislike peta and am often not adamant on issues, but declawing is not necessary. i just worry since you said you werent sure you could have a cat- that youre taking the shitty way out.

prove me wrong. oscar is a handful but i couldnt stand hurting him|


oscar says happy bday!


Posted by chucho on Oct-27-2006 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT

Man I can't wait to fcuk the pussy tomorrow! w00t!


fixed


Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 17:34:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
myra, seriously, dont do it.

i know the kitten is a handful - but they calm down. dont declaw. i dislike peta and am often not adamant on issues, but declawing is not necessary. i just worry since you said you werent sure you could have a cat- that youre taking the shitty way out.

prove me wrong. oscar is a handful but i couldnt stand hurting him|


oscar says happy bday!

now you're just making me feel bad.

i don't think i'm being selfish or "taking the shitty way out" at all... like i said i've had cats declawed before and it didn't affect them negatively at all. my last cat Xander (the one who lives with my ex) is still crazy and playful and functions just fine without his claws, and it was a hell of a lot easier for him to play with me and sleep next to me after that.

i seriously wouldn't do it if i thought it was a terrible & inhumane thing to do.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Oct-27-2006 17:36:

in college my roommate use to have a cat who would always sleep at the foot of my bed for some reason, sometimes in the middle of the night he'd start clawing at my leg like no tomorrow, one time so much so i had to kick him (literally) off the bed. bastid!!!

then he use to be a real bitch and sleep on my pillow on my head. i push him away then like 5mins later he slowly crawls back ontop of my head so i got pissed and grabbed him and picked my head up and rested it right on him...needless to say he stayed there all night but i woke up with cat hair all over the place...


Posted by biznology on Oct-27-2006 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
now you're just making me feel bad.

i don't think i'm being selfish or "taking the shitty way out" at all... like i said i've had cats declawed before and it didn't affect them negatively at all. my last cat Xander (the one who lives with my ex) is still crazy and playful and functions just fine without his claws, and it was a hell of a lot easier for him to play with me and sleep next to me after that.

i seriously wouldn't do it if i thought it was a terrible & inhumane thing to do.


im not guilting you...please dont!

who cares if another cat is ok, it is not necessary!

it feels like a substance lecture, dont let it be! the cat is fine, just young. im not trying to make you feel bad. sasha will be alright, sans declaw. why you think a major surgery will make him 'alright' when he is 'alright' without it is beyond me|


Posted by UWM on Oct-27-2006 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid

i don't think i'm being selfish or "taking the shitty way out" at all...


You're not. And you shouldn't feel bad about the decision you've made. You're doing it when the cat is young enough to fully recover and you live in an environment that isn't conducive to having a cat around with claws. It's a responsible decision and, in my opinion, the right one.


Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 18:35:

maybe i should just post some pics of the scratches on my back/neck/shoulders.


Posted by UWM on Oct-27-2006 18:38:

quote:
Originally posted by l�cid
maybe i should just post some pics of the scratches on my back/neck/shoulders.


The c0r doesn't want to see RJT's love marks.


Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
The c0r doesn't want to see RJT's love marks.

i've been cheating on RJT... with Sasha...



it's not beastiality it's inter-species erotica!


Posted by UWM on Oct-27-2006 18:48:

The gorillas inspired you?



Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
The gorillas inspired you?



lol whenever i think of that movie all i can think about is men in gorilla suits wearing athletic sneakers running through the woods.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-27-2006 18:52:

wait a sexond, u gave it away?!?!?


what happened??


Posted by l�cid on Oct-27-2006 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
wait a sexond, u gave it away?!?!?


what happened??

what are you talking about?


Posted by Slylee on Oct-27-2006 19:15:

ok first of all, lmao@"sexond". clearly i meant "second"...


and sexondly... lol i thought from bobby's post, u had given it away or something and i didn't feel like reading back.


Posted by bas on Oct-27-2006 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
ok first of all, lmao@"sexond". clearly i meant "second"...


and sexondly... lol i thought from bobby's post, u had given it away or something and i didn't feel like reading back.

I thought you were typing "sexond" to be funny. Turns out your just a bit randy


Posted by Slylee on Oct-27-2006 19:17:

i'm an idiot.


ok so ur declawing it?


that's a bad idea because what if (god forbid) something were to happen and he got out of the apt? he wouldn't last a day on his own without them. also, i've heard stories about cats' personalities changing after u get them declawed.

they have this thing where they put these dull, rubber things over the claws instead of actually declawing them. you should ask about that.


also, he's a kitten...he's gonna claw for a while. just make sure u cut his nails regularly and get him a scratching post. he'll start using it and stop clawing other things, u just have to have patience.


Posted by Slylee on Oct-27-2006 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
I thought you were typing "sexond" to be funny. Turns out your just a bit randy


no it was an honest typo. haha

i dont like being on TA that much at my new job, and when i do post, i'm really in a hurry...i dont proofread that much any more.


Posted by UWM on Oct-27-2006 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
i'm an idiot.


ok so ur declawing it?


that's a bad idea because what if (god forbid) something were to happen and he got out of the apt? he wouldn't last a day on his own without them. also, i've heard stories about cats' personalities changing after u get them declawed.

they have this thing where they put these dull, rubber things over the claws instead of actually declawing them. you should ask about that.


also, he's a kitten...he's gonna claw for a while. just make sure u cut his nails regularly and get him a scratching post. he'll start using it and stop clawing other things, u just have to have patience.



w00t new sig!


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