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start your own "netlabel", and put out your own work.

lol @ the trance producers gone legal experts on the matter

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Originally posted by Arksun There is no conspiracy here. Go ahead and waste the money on a lawyer he will point out the blidingly obivous, they're nowhere near close enough. I hear closer similarities between tracks every day, and those people don't sue. why? because this is what happens when there's only 12 different notes in a scale to play with, sometimes they sound similar. Really this has made me mad, for this guy to spam this many forums with this rubbish and have people actually believing it!.

Yeah, handle these things civilialized people. I understand if original poster is new to music business and feel that he is ripped off, you want to shout all it out. But this clearly looks now there were no truth behind the story. You should have emailed label and original artist first. Now only thing you did, was damage to your own name and UNNECESSARY damage to Leons.

Take a lesson.

And I don't know Leon personally so this isn't a friend defending him.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller well i'm not gonna look down at the guy for starting a thread because i'm sure if he'd had contacted you directly it woulda been the same response and brushed off. is it professional? not really, but doesn't seem like there are very many professional people in trance music these days to begin with as we've had a lot of similar threads by a lot of professional producers/djs to the same effect on here. the biggest issue here is this guy thinks you ripped him off. i'm no copyright expert...i'm just saying if he feels like he got cheated some way...then he should look into it and not let a bunch of producers that are your friends convince him not to. could just be a terrible coincidence who knows...not for me to say. but i can understand his frustration. they do sound pretty similar. if that's just because of the patch bank or whatever...who knows.

like i said. He shouldve contacted us, and not putting out this shit about me, cliff and intuition on the internet.

Really man, why should i even bother copying this kinda melody like this and get this shit poured out over me?

like i tried to explain on trance.nu, its kind of a joke, we just hit the keyboard and within 10 seconds we had this chord progression. Plain and simple, we wanted this to contrast with the techy beats and the oldschool feel of the track.

and i didnt hear his track anyway, menno/paul are a&r managers for intuition, but they wont bother to send me any tracks they turned down, why should they.

Take it to court if you want to

Some guy from here got rich by pursuing Madonna, because she (or her producers) used some samples of him in the track 'frozen'. That was 5 years after it's release.

Anything these producerfriends said until now is bull; and floorfiller has a point.

I'm not taking sides here, the choise is all up to the topicstarter

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Originally posted by Push2005 Take it to court if you want to Some guy from here got rich by pursuing Madonna, because she (or her producers) used some samples of him in the track 'frozen'. That was 5 years after it's release. Anything these producerfriends said until now is bull; and floorfiller has a point. I'm not taking sides here, the choise is all up to the topicstarter

is this bull?
pauls melody


leons melody

not quite similar is it?

and the fact that Leon is not an a&r at intuition, so he'd never heard the track before isn't bull either? come be logical here.

see now that is convincing. i'd like to see what the thread starter thinks of that because i think he might be oweing leon an apology...

sorry leon...i believe you...

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Originally posted by Push2005 Take it to court if you want to Anything these producerfriends said until now is bull; I'm not taking sides here

No not taking sides at all

Everything I've written has been based in simple logic and fact that anyone could understand, try reading and digesting the information on those posts before making such silly posts, than assuming the worst.

If you fail to understand all the reasons given then I feel sorry for you.

I'm doing Paul a favour here, if he takes it to court, not only will he lose (because he has no case), he'll be broke from the lawyers fees and on top of that, no label will touch him after that, not one.

lol this thread is great

I can say that it's not "massive publicity stunt" or "special kill of Leon's rating". Life is very interesting thing, isn't it? And sometimes it makes very dirty jokes. This night my friend sent me a letter with a 2 min rip from last ASOT and it was impossibly similar to my "Irony". Not only a sound is the same as some people said but first part of harmony also.
Let imagine yourself as begginer producer heard a melody too similar to yours, sounded similar. And imagine yourself writing a letter to person who you think got your melody. Just imagine that: "Hello big guy. You've stolen my track, isn't it?". Independently from he've stolen or not you would receive "No". And say that I'm wrong in this reasoning. I produced track using the same things long before this guys. I have all the proffs of it, including the CD sent to myself. And unfortunately I was not proffesional enough in 2005 to release it. And concretely the month I reworked the track and decided to sign it this situation occurs. I can't finally believe in so crazy coincidence...

Just let this thread die. Paul got all the attention he wanted, now let's go back to serious matters.

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Originally posted by Maor Levi i would say originally it might be sound simillar but its still different no matter what u say...Different Sound , Different octave , everything. Scooter ripped off Push - Strange World...and? nothing. not to mention there are 100000000000 trance tunes that sound simillar and some completely identical...i dont think u can do anything about it since there's always way to win here , u dont have any copyrights for this melody beacuse u havnt signed it im afraid...and even if u do leon can change a small note in the melody and it will turn into his own melody just beacuse of a 1 single note...

There your wrong Maor

Mike sued Scooter and they did and still have to pay a share ;-) just to let you know that things like this DO work!

Ok first now I got the chance to listen to the melodies.

Hahaha, first of all --> This is an incredible simple melody to produce so why on hell use a preset-arpeggio?!?!?! That just pisses me off. I've cooporated with many artists who uses presets and once I realise it, I stop the cooporation immediately. It's just too ejay-ish!!! Make your own melodies god dammit Second of all --> These melodies aren't similar. The first one (the original) has more chord-changes and different ones as well. And imo is far much better. I wouldn't mind remixing it actually, cuz the chord-changes are beautiful! Leon's melody isn't quite as complex. And the melody-pattern is similar, but not exact the same.

Yes, they sound similar. Mainly because they both has the same synth-sound.

Grow up people

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Originally posted by dj_palm u dont get it do you? its NOT the same melody if u can call any of them a melody.

Totally agree!!! Make your own melodies damnit!!! Don't ever again use preset-arpeggio's. Childish!

It's sad tha these threads attract most of the big producers. It would be great to see them posting and in other threads

Are you guys deaf? The two tunes are completely different. There's sweet nothing similar in the two patterns except what seems to be a similar plug-in.

And no, I'm not Leon's friend.

they sound verry different imo

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Originally posted by john2 It's sad tha these threads attract most of the big producers. It would be great to see them posting and in other threads

Some blame can directly go to peoples attitudes in here. If you make personal attacks, those artists surely will go away. Sometimes it even looks that people want them to go away. TA was really different when I joined, these days people seem to have no respect for the artists.

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Originally posted by breakaholic Some blame can directly go to peoples attitudes in here. If you make personal attacks, those artists surely will go away. Sometimes it even looks that people want them to go away. TA was really different when I joined, these days people seem to have no respect for the artists.

true mate. As for the music, i'd just let mulder & scully investigate, either way we'd get 45 minutes of compelling television

The real lesson of this thread? Presets are the lose. \o/

Paul, I think you're just bitter that you didn't get signed.

Not at all similar, similar sound, both inspired by Armin's Serenity ...

Wow, todays trance tracks sound alike. Someone call CNN.

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