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Originally posted by RickyM What I mean is, from what I've heard, I think minimal is crap, although obviously there is the odd exception...surely there are genres that you think are mainly crap, but yet there is the odd track in that particular genre that you like?

Okay - then I think it was just a case of poor choice of words on your part. You're right, I can't think of a single hardcore track that I like, and only a very few drum n bass tracks that I like manage to spring to my mind - but I can still appreciate it for what it is without actually liking it, and would never dismiss the entire genre as "shit" or "crap."

Not my genre of choice i have to say, and i hardly know fuck all about it. Though i loved,
Loco Dice - Seeing Through Shadows, that was a nice slice of minimal tech-house.

If you dont like it, then dont bloody listen to it, and stop moaning.....simple as.

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Originally posted by Az lauschgoldengel is fucking trance

here you go:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G=Google+Search

search google for any place that sells it online, its labeled under either minimal or techno. when minimal tracks are not so minimal, they're called the next closest sounding thing, techno.

If you don't like minimal, you obviously aren't going to any minimal parties. They are the BOMB.COM!


Montreal Minimal parties PWN. Julien knows what I'm talkin about!

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Originally posted by Allied Nations If you don't like minimal, you obviously aren't going to any minimal parties. They are the BOMB.COM! Montreal Minimal parties PWN. Julien knows what I'm talkin about!

Pfffft... I think someone just likes his K a bit much...

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Originally posted by stev�sto when minimal tracks are not so minimal, they're called the next closest sounding thing, techno.

No.

Well, they shouldn't be.

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Originally posted by RJT Pfffft... I think someone just likes his K a bit much...

Not at Steve Bug and John Dahlback...

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Not at Steve Bug and John Dahlback...

I need a bit of minimal after a night clubbing.

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Originally posted by UWM No. Well, they shouldn't be.

you really just cant make every music snob in here happy in regards to genre labels. if you call your typical 2006 minimal track minimal, you get scoffed at by minimal purists saying "that's not minimal! its a disgrace how everything is called minimal now!". if you call a minimal style sounding techno track techno, you get yelled at for calling it techno.

what i meant by that earlier statement is how online stores categorize their music. everywhere i looked (briefly), lauschgoldengel was under either minimal or techno. over the past year of shopping, ive noticed when minimal tracks are not so minimal, (i.e. have more elements or layers - not so simplistic), they tend to get filed under techno. i think its because techno is the next closest cousin in terms that they are both very percussion oriented and the samples used are similiar (but not used in the same way).

btw i bought the one sided vinyl of lauschgoldengel and love it. play it on 33 speed for a really weird cool effect.

Re: Tired of minimal

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Originally posted by Akazi anyone else tired of minimal and all that clicky, deep and wannabe meaningfull, "intellegint", pretentious music? i know i am...

i cant get over reading this.. the effort. Are you just being cool now by being tired of it, cause everyone is on the bandwagon now? just enjoy something else man...

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quote: Originally posted by julien2 bpm has nothing to do with minimalism. if you read half carefully you'll see that's exactly the point i'm making..

i was simply restating it !

I like minimal with deep house elements. Slightly melodic, housey beats with techy sounds. And of course minimal dub techno of 90s like Basic Channel stuff. That Villalobos plip plop minimal (which is the bandwagon I think) is mostly shit.

People have a misconception that minimal is slow and the opposite of hard music

MINIMAL IS NOT AMBIENT !

Minimal can be fast, hard and rich in sounds.

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Originally posted by Akazi why?

lol, so adorable haha

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Originally posted by julien2 i was simply restating it !

My apoligies, i've picked you up wrongly.

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Originally posted by chesco My apoligies, i've picked you up wrongly.

i dont see you @ +/- anymore..


-harold

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Originally posted by humilis I like minimal with deep house elements. Slightly melodic, housey beats with techy sounds. And of course minimal dub techno of 90s like Basic Channel stuff. That Villalobos plip plop minimal (which is the bandwagon I think) is mostly shit.

i love Villalobos' sets, for quite some time now..

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Originally posted by stev�sto here you go: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G=Google+Search search google for any place that sells it online, its labeled under either minimal or techno. when minimal tracks are not so minimal, they're called the next closest sounding thing, techno.

I don't need a fucking google search to tell me what it is dipshit, saying it was trance was a tongue in cheek comment due to it's massive breakdown, insane build up and melodic nature, it's trance in the true sense of the word, and 3 beat records saying it's minimal isn't going to convince me otherwise.
In other news 90% of the people posting in this thread have no fucking idea about anything, let alone what minimal is.

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Originally posted by Az I don't need a fucking google search to tell me what it is dipshit, saying it was trance was a tongue in cheek comment due to it's massive breakdown, insane build up and melodic nature, it's trance in the true sense of the word, and 3 beat records saying it's minimal isn't going to convince me otherwise. In other news 90% of the people posting in this thread have no fucking idea about anything, let alone what minimal is.

and you - the person who's basically saying that trance in the true sense of the word translates into tracks that have insane build ups & breakdowns - are supposed to be the one who has a clue?

laughable.

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Originally posted by bobba lou i cant get over reading this.. the effort. Are you just being cool now by being tired of it, cause everyone is on the bandwagon now? just enjoy something else man...

no no no, you got me wrong there, im not trying to be cool or anything.

i mentioned in a post before that i was heavily influenced by that music and now i realised it and am starting to get over it.

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Originally posted by Psy-T and you - the person who's basically saying that trance in the true sense of the word translates into tracks that have insane build ups & breakdowns - are supposed to be the one who has a clue? laughable.

give it a rest sweetheart, I was playing devils advocate. Have you even heard the track? it's trance in it's purest, stripped down most repetitive form. I heard it in fabric a few months back and though I'd walked into the main room at gatecrasher

I love that pling plong shit, it's groovy as fuck. Don't think I'll ever get tired of minimal though. It's got such a direct feed to it and puts you in a very weird state of mind; kind of like a musical hypnosis cause the sounds are so pulsating and wide especially stuff from Luciano. He takes shit you'd usually use as percussion and create an abyss of multi-dimensional melodies and sounds.

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Originally posted by bobba lou i dont see you @ +/- anymore.. -harold

I'm still there mate. See my recent "sven vath sound of" post of disgust at the price of it

It's just a bit quite just now since it went down, not really a great deal of topics where I can add input on.

is the price that much?? i have not bought it yet. Ramon mentioned about getting. I guess i will check it out then. Got my bday coming up next week, miguel will be in town so i will be locked in the studio with him and michael, and then rave it up with dice perhaps..should be fun.

-Harold

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