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UCLA students are clearly pussies.
if that happened here with that many people watching, someone would have stepped in... instead of just standing around talking like a bunch of girls.

FUCKING PUSSIES! Not one of them tried to pull those officers away from him! I for one would've gotten a gang of people to rush them. So much for people fighting for what they believe in...

That sickens me to the tenth degree.

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Originally posted by Lomeli FUCKING PUSSIES! Not one of them tried to pull those officers away from him! I for one would've gotten a gang of people to rush them. So much for people fighting for what they believe in... That sickens me to the tenth degree.

Ok. Those 'officers'. Are they genuine peace officers? (Meaning same level as cops?)

If yes, to interfere in their duties, as wrong as it may seem at the time, is to ask for trouble. (and you're stuck with obstruction of justice or something like that)

If not, fucking bootfuck those shitpumps.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Ok. Those 'officers'. Are they genuine peace officers? (Meaning same level as cops?) If yes, to interfere in their duties, as wrong as it may seem at the time, is to ask for trouble. (and you're stuck with obstruction of justice or something like that) If not, fucking bootfuck those shitpumps.

they are most likely campus police, with != real cops

oops, they are real cops.

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Originally posted by echosystm UCLA students are clearly pussies. if that happened here with that many people watching, someone would have stepped in... instead of just standing around talking like a bunch of girls.

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Originally posted by Lomeli FUCKING PUSSIES! Not one of them tried to pull those officers away from him! I for one would've gotten a gang of people to rush them. So much for people fighting for what they believe in... That sickens me to the tenth degree.

let me stand infront of you with a tazer and a red laser dot on your forehead and you rush me and we see who wins

tough words from behind the keyboard

tazzer is not that bad. pepper spray at times isn't that bad either. If they were really on a moral trip they would have taken one for the team.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 tazzer is not that bad. pepper spray at times isn't that bad either. If they were really on a moral trip they would have taken one for the team.

you ever get hit by one?? and electrocuting your nutsack to help you bust a nut doesn't count.

i seen miami vice in action outside of Space dragging 3 huge juice heads out of a party next door, one caught a tazer in the chest and dropped to the floor like a pussy

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Originally posted by kid nyce you ever get hit by one?? and electrocuting your nutsack to help you bust a nut doesn't count. i seen miami vice in action outside of Space dragging 3 huge juice heads out of a party next door, one caught a tazer in the chest and dropped to the floor like a pussy

yes I have. Twice actually in college. You do drop to the floor, but you are fine within a few seconds after it is stopped. with pepper spray you are fine as long as you don't rub your eyes, but that means you can't see shit for a while.

wow... a shame

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His name: Mostafa Tabatabainejad [Source: http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10325914/detail.html] Does anyone even care anymore? Look at how awful authority treats us in 2006. This is an extraordinary abuse of power. I can't even express outrage, it's just... too much..

Its funny how everybody is a lawyer when they see something bad happen. So he got tazed, Its not like he paralyzed for years.. the effect wears off rather quickly...within seconds. Oh and the supreme court has ruled that refusing to so a peace officer ID is ground to bring a person in.


the video is not clear show it doesn't show that force was being abused. He could not follow simple orders of "Stand Up" I'm sure the cops were aware of the other students around, i'm sure they followed procedure. Now if students don't know what that procdeure is, well its not the cops job to tell them. If the students want to find out...the hard way. I'm sure the cops will be happy to do it.


I hate how people diss cops, just because of the "injustice" on youtube. If that footage was on "Coolest Cops Takedown EVER!!" (i made that up) then it will all GREAT!

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak You two make me wanna sing John Denver songs

Tht guy was full of shit.

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Originally posted by wizniz wtf CAN you do? that guy sticking up for him at the end, to whome the cop said "stand back or youre gonna get tasered too" to should have stood his ground. people need to confront. they shouldve rushed as a group and whisked the guy away through the crowd mexican style

rightfully so. Regardless of intentions, if a person gets close to a cop while attempting to do an arrest, the cop should have the right to taze the person. The cop should not have to worry about if this other guy is going to attack him.

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listen, forgetting your ID is common on campus. and usually if you tell the pretencious mini-authoritarian pricks to fuck off, they do. this occasion was an example of a common thing getting blown up to rediculous proportions. also, im not sure if youre aware (im not) but i imagine itd be very difficult to walk with all that electricity flowing through your body.

They are the police, not rent-a-cop. If you refuse to show ID, they can bring you in.

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Originally posted by Orbital32 the video is not clear show it doesn't show that force was being abused. He could not follow simple orders of "Stand Up" I'm sure the cops were aware of the other students around, i'm sure they followed procedure. Now if students don't know what that procdeure is, well its not the cops job to tell them. If the students want to find out...the hard way. I'm sure the cops will be happy to do it.

Have you ever tried to stand up immediately after being tazed? I thought the point of a tazer is to put someone on the ground.

yes. yes i have. it took a few seconds (literally) but i was able to get up.

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Originally posted by Orbital32 rightfully so. Regardless of intentions, if a person gets close to a cop while attempting to do an arrest, the cop should have the right to taze the person. The cop should not have to worry about if this other guy is going to attack him. They are the police, not rent-a-cop. If you refuse to show ID, they can bring you in.

Sure, fine, they are just doing their job after all, no need to actually hold anyone responsible for their actions, they are just arms of the "justice" system, not the minds. Something like that?

But when it comes to threatening otherwise innocent bystanders who want to intervene because what they see is injustice, who do you side with?

WHY can they "bring you in" for not showing your Identification?

Is it that important for every human being in our country to be registered and numbered and hold with them proof of this at all times?

Since when is it ok to meet passive refusal with violence? Since when is it ok to bring violence to a place of learning? Kent State?

Police men and women are people too, I understand that. They have a right to defend themselves when they see fit as individuals. This, however, is very wrong.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Tht guy was full of shit.

Fuck you man.
He did 2 albums with the muppets and tried to destroy a mountain single handedly.Where I come from that makes you better than Chuck Norris.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On WHY can they "bring you in" for not showing your Identification?

Good question. Why don't you ask the supreme court when they said the police had the authority to do that.

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Originally posted by Akridrot His name: Mostafa Tabatabainejad [Source: http://www.nbc4.tv/news/10325914/detail.html] Does anyone even care anymore? Look at how awful authority treats us in 2006. This is an extraordinary abuse of power. I can't even express outrage, it's just... too much..

Pussy, tasers don't hurt.

lol

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Originally posted by Orbital32 Good question. Why don't you ask the supreme court when they said the police had the authority to do that.

When did they say that?

when i don't shave for 2 weeks, i look arab and while i try and abuse that with the arab food places around here to getting me free food and arab prostitutes in giving me free sex, i don't really get punched in the face by authoritorian powers just because i refuse to give into small requests like, i dunno, "where's your ID you dirty arab cocksucker? you SPLLANING TO BLOW UP THIS CAMPUS? I'LL CUT YOUR HEAD OFF! AHHAHA I AM ABUSING MY PATRIOT ACT LOLOLOL. JUSTICE BURNNNNNN"

i've been questioned by cops like twice in my life and both times i did their basic routine without piss or moan. Dude's got a fucking gun and i'll respect that, just as long as he isn't grabbing my cock or something BLATANTLY out of his powers.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak Fuck you man. He did 2 albums with the muppets and tried to destroy a mountain single handedly.Where I come from that makes you better than Chuck Norris.

Lloyd: I expected the Rocky Mountains to be a little rockier than this.
Harry: I was thinking the same thing. That John Denver is full of shit, man.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On When did they say that?

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-5554.ZO.html

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Hiibel argues that his conviction cannot stand because the officer�s conduct violated his Fourth Amendment rights. We disagree. Asking questions is an essential part of police investigations. In the ordinary course a police officer is free to ask a person for identification without implicating the Fourth Amendment. �[I]nterrogation relating to one�s identity or a request for identification by the police does not, by itself, constitute a Fourth Amendment seizure.� INS v. Delgado, 466 U.S. 210, 216 (1984). Beginning with Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), the Court has recognized that a law enforcement officer�s reasonable suspicion that a person may be involved in criminal activity permits the officer to stop the person for a brief time and take additional steps to investigate further. Delgado, supra, at 216; United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873, 881 (1975). To ensure that the resulting seizure is constitutionally reasonable, a Terry stop must be limited. The officer�s action must be � �justified at its inception, and � reasonably related in scope to the circumstances which justified the interference in the first place.� � United States v. Sharpe, 470 U.S. 675, 682 (1985) (quoting Terry, supra, at 20). For example, the seizure cannot continue for an excessive period of time, see United States v. Place, 462 U.S. 696, 709 (1983), or resemble a traditional arrest, see Dunaway v. New York, 442 U.S. 200, 212 (1979). Our decisions make clear that questions concerning a suspect�s identity are a routine and accepted part of many Terry stops. See United States v. Hensley, 469 U.S. 221, 229 (1985) (�[T]he ability to briefly stop [a suspect], ask questions, or check identification in the absence of probable cause promotes the strong government interest in solving crimes and bringing offenders to justice�); Hayes v. Florida, 470 U.S. 811, 816 (1985) (�[I]f there are articulable facts supporting a reasonable suspicion that a person has committed a criminal offense, that person may be stopped in order to identify him, to question him briefly, or to detain him briefly while attempting to obtain additional information�); Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143, 146 (1972) (�A brief stop of a suspicious individual, in order to determine his identity or to maintain the status quo momentarily while obtaining more information, may be most reasonable in light of the facts known to the officer at the time�). Obtaining a suspect�s name in the course of a Terry stop serves important government interests. Knowledge of identity may inform an officer that a suspect is wanted for another offense, or has a record of violence or mental disorder. On the other hand, knowing identity may help clear a suspect and allow the police to concentrate their efforts elsewhere. Identity may prove particularly important in cases such as this, where the police are investigating what appears to be a domestic assault. Officers called to investigate domestic disputes need to know whom they are dealing with in order to assess the situation, the threat to their own safety, and possible danger to the potential victim.

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Originally posted by Orbital32 http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-5554.ZO.html

Doesn't look like there were any documented cases in there where the police ended up seizing somebody in a school and electrocuting him into submission.

You're right though, the supreme court did say it's ok for police to stop somebody and ask for identification. "Additional steps to investigate further" means this though?

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