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I think my post got lost in the melee, so Ill repost....

Ok I have a question for you guys (especially the ones that say they dont have a set eq pattern).

Now before you actually start to mess with the eqs, do you have a plan on what you are going to do? For example...its understood that each song is going to be somewhat different, so do you know or have a plan on how you are going to mess with the eqs even before you bring the song in...or...do you bring the song in and work from there, taking out what you think needs taking out and putting in what you think it sounds like it needs to go in.

Well after typing this Ive realized most peoples answers are going to be the same...How I do it, is I have a basic idea before going in, by listening to the song in my headphones, but a lot of it is improvising while both records are playing.

Im interested in seeing if anyone has it all layed out before they start to mix in the new song (just by listening in your headphones).

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Originally posted by D-Syde I think my post got lost in the melee, so Ill repost.... Ok I have a question for you guys (especially the ones that say they dont have a set eq pattern). Now before you actually start to mess with the eqs, do you have a plan on what you are going to do? For example...its understood that each song is going to be somewhat different, so do you know or have a plan on how you are going to mess with the eqs even before you bring the song in...or...do you bring the song in and work from there, taking out what you think needs taking out and putting in what you think it sounds like it needs to go in. Well after typing this Ive realized most peoples answers are going to be the same...How I do it, is I have a basic idea before going in, by listening to the song in my headphones, but a lot of it is improvising while both records are playing. Im interested in seeing if anyone has it all layed out before they start to mix in the new song (just by listening in your headphones).

I have a laid-out plan what I'm gonna do before I start mixing.

Generally I cut the bass of the incoming song and gradually introduce it.

Sometimes, I introduce the mid-frequencies rather than the bass, because that just sounds better for that particular song.

Thats a really great compliment DJ LIQUID
I'm a starter myself and listening to someone thats been mixing with Technics and a Pioneer DJM-600 saying that I know what Im talking about makes me feel really good
Like I say : Always a pleasure

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Originally posted by D-Syde I think my post got lost in the melee, so Ill repost.... Ok I have a question for you guys (especially the ones that say they dont have a set eq pattern). Now before you actually start to mess with the eqs, do you have a plan on what you are going to do? For example...its understood that each song is going to be somewhat different, so do you know or have a plan on how you are going to mess with the eqs even before you bring the song in...or...do you bring the song in and work from there, taking out what you think needs taking out and putting in what you think it sounds like it needs to go in. Well after typing this Ive realized most peoples answers are going to be the same...How I do it, is I have a basic idea before going in, by listening to the song in my headphones, but a lot of it is improvising while both records are playing. Im interested in seeing if anyone has it all layed out before they start to mix in the new song (just by listening in your headphones).

Well, I dont agree with what you are saying.
A DJ needs to be original and innovative, I Dont agree with laying out a pattern for the mix, I try to create my own style, and I change the way I mix every time.
I Could raise the volium graduatly with a bass, or raise it with no bass at all in one sharp movement.
It all depends on the tracks you are mixing, they way they fit together and they way you feel like mixing them.
Following the same pattern over and over again will not be ideal.

I wasnt saying have a set pattern, I was saying before you mix have an idea of how you are going to mix it, but a lot of it is improvising (listening to what is too loud or not loud enough and working from there). What I was wondering is if anyone can do a mix between songs with little or no improvising....meaning they already know how the songs are going to fit before they mix em...either by listening through thier headphones or just knowing thier tunes.

I Think you need to know your tunes for that.
For example I can create the exact same mix every time between these 3 tracks
1.Rank 1 - Awakening
2.Flutlicht - Icarus [Deadalus Mix]
3.Yoda - Definitley [Original Mix]

I've worked with these 3 tracks allot and I always mix them the same.
And every time I hit it off.
You just got to know your tracks.

There is nothing wrong with preparing all your mixes in advance.
Especially if you're creating an artistic CD.

"Banging it in" vs. Fading

Here's another tip: this one on "banging it in" vs. "fading."

"First off, songs that fade in or out is the easiest way to segue from one song to another but it is also unnatural. Beats DO NOT fade in and out of songs (Other than the endings and special effects) so why should they in your mix. It just makes it more noticeable that you are mixing. The object is to make it sound like one constant song.

"If songs do not have good drop in or drop-out points then by all means fade it. Even the best of us do it. It is a very common mixing technique. You should have no trouble "Banging it in" as opposed to fading out though. Most songs start with just a beat which will mix with anything in its B.P.M. range and therefore can be "banged in" (instantly turned on with it's maximum volume (That sounds good) with no fade). There are two ways to do this. The first is by throwing it in with the volume already up. If you are good at this then this is the best way. Don't do it if you can't do it in time with the record playing. If you throw it in wrong, you will have to make some quick pitch adjustments to make up for your inaccuracy and the crowd will hear the horse galloping sound of your mess up. The other way is by simply listening to the cued record in your head phone and when it is on beat, turn up the volume."

Re: "Banging it in" vs. Fading

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Originally posted by Eugene "banging it in"

Yep, thats what I do. I hate that fading in/out sound!

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Originally posted by Eugene About EQ'ing with your headphones, is it just me or does playing with EQ's have absolutely no effect on what's heard in your headphones? Or am I wrong, I just can't hear it?

i can hear it in my mixer..........

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I have a laid-out plan what I'm gonna do before I start mixing. Generally I cut the bass of the incoming song and gradually introduce it. Sometimes, I introduce the mid-frequencies rather than the bass, because that just sounds better for that particular song.

Gradually sounds fucked up to me......there are some songs where u can do that, there are some songs where u don't even need to cut the bass and there are some songs where u just gotta switch the bassline and fuck gradual approach.....

Hmmm, interesting discussion.
I must say that I'm an advocate of "banging it in". I mean, all dance tracks have layers to them, so when mixing in something, we should just introduce layers from the incoming track as we cut off the same layer from the outgoing track. I agree that for most cases, fading in/out gradually sounds akward.
Having said that, my beatmatching has gone downhill ever since I peaked a few weeks ago; I wonder if DJs do go through rough patches..

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Originally posted by Great Outdoors Having said that, my beatmatching has gone downhill ever since I peaked a few weeks ago; I wonder if DJs do go through rough patches..

Hell, tell me about it!
I was able to pull off some great mixes a few days ago, and now, every time I practice, I screw up big-time!

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Originally posted by Great Outdoors Having said that, my beatmatching has gone downhill ever since I peaked a few weeks ago; I wonder if DJs do go through rough patches..

.....its all good dood, everyone has ups and downs......during the fall i was too busy to spin, so i haven't spun for about 3 month then had to make a mix for 1st TA MIXIING COMPETITION and the mix came out pretty good....so maybe u are just having a stressed week or shit like that....

Its all a matter of good days and bad days...

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Originally posted by Scorchio Thats a really great compliment DJ LIQUID I'm a starter myself and listening to someone thats been mixing with Technics and a Pioneer DJM-600 saying that I know what Im talking about makes me feel really good Like I say : Always a pleasure

no shit guys, i learned more in the 20 minutes reading this then 2 weeks of spinning and fooling around. thanks for the help and tips.

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Originally posted by mikefasssy no shit guys, i learned more in the 20 minutes reading this then 2 weeks of spinning and fooling around. thanks for the help and tips.

Wow that's a nice compliment I can't say I learn more from reading than practising, but I thank God there's a forum I can turn to when things go wrong, knowing for sure I'm not alone..

Awww... I think we need a group hug now.

LET THIS THREAD BE A LESSON TO US.....BPM COUNTERS SUCK........

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Originally posted by DJ Teknique LET THIS THREAD BE A LESSON TO US.....BPM COUNTERS SUCK........

HAAHAA

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Tell me what reasonable club doesnt have a good mixer with a double cue? I Think every club which respects itself should have one.

Probably almost any large night club in NYC or Boston. Almost every club I've been to has a Urei rotary mixer which has no split cueing (or much else actually). They are no longer made and are supposedly hard to come by, but are considered the best.

I found this out the hard way when I had my first nightclub gig 2 years ago. Good thing I had time to practice on it before I played.

Not quite true... Urei mixers are still made, as long as you're handy with a soldering iron. They are available in kit form from some company in Japan, I believe.

They are a bastard to mix with though - no eq's! You have to have a separate eq module next to it. I do like rotary mixers though - I'm a big fan of them when it comes to long smooth mixes.

Crossfaders are for Hip-Hop vinyl-haters and hard house fairies!

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Originally posted by DJTJ Crossfaders are for Hip-Hop vinyl-haters and hard house fairies!

LOL

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